The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: ABX on April 24, 2017, 05:33:00 pm
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Top Trump administration officials will hold a rare briefing on Wednesday at the White House for the entire U.S. Senate on the situation in North Korea, senior Senate aides said on Monday, reports Reuters.
All 100 senators have been asked to the White House for the briefing by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the aides said, according to Reuters
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Well thats kinda scary
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Well thats kinda scary
Nothing secret will be discussed with Leahy and Franken in the room.
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Well thats kinda scary
It is and I'm wondering why just the Senate?
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Well thats kinda scary
Yeah, maybe I'll go back over to the Caitlin Jenner thread and bash trannies.
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Nothing secret will be discussed with Leahy and Franken in the room.
I'll start the "No-Show" pool Cy!
Dems don't like being "summoned" to the White House by the other party's Pres. I'm guessing they are miffed he wouldn't send those 4 briefers to the Senate.
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More noise and confusion..........signifying nothing.
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It is and I'm wondering why just the Senate?
Senate declares war not the house.
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It is and I'm wondering why just the Senate?
At least he is going to the Senate. It could possibly have to do with some technical legal detail as we are currently still under the Korean Armistice Agreement which a change would require Senate ratification. I'm not sure this wold require a new declaration of war if he were to act, just an update to existing status.
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More noise and confusion..........signifying nothing.
Potentially signifying a great deal. Hopefully it is nothing but I wouldn't put my bet on it.
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Senate declares war not the house.
Congress as a whole actually. Article 1, Section 8.
But technically it was already declared. We are under the Korean Armistice Agreement which would have to go back to the Senate for a change of status.
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Senate declares war not the house.
Ummm...I don't think so. Article 1 Section 8 doesn't specify "Senate."
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There's a rumor that he's trying to sell them a timeshare at his new hotel.
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Ummm...I don't think so. Article 1 Section 8 doesn't specify "Senate."
Don't argue with me! I'll tell Mom!...
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It's probably a matter of routine in a serious situation such as this; now, NK has made threats against Australia, Japanese destroyers have joined the US armada. I would think at the least, the Senate needs to be sought for counsel and advice.
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Congress as a whole actually. Article 1, Section 8.
But technically it was already declared. We are under the Korean Armistice Agreement which would have to go back to the Senate for a change of status.
I was half right!
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There's a rumor that he's trying to sell them a timeshare at his new hotel.
Never miss an opportunity to bash Trump .... even on a rather serious thread.
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Senate declares war not the house.
Not true. Both House and Senate have to declare war.
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Not true. Both House and Senate have to declare war.
Most meaningless portion of the Constitution IMO. We haven't declared war in 50 years right? And how many wars have we been in?
It's totally meaningless at this point.
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Most meaningless portion of the Constitution IMO. We haven't declared war in 50 years right? And how many wars have we been in?
It's totally meaningless at this point.
That's not precisely true, either. Both Bush presidencies got Congressional approval for their "armed interventions." But the general point is sound. Neither Clinton nor Obama went to Congress.
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That's not precisely true, either. Both Bush presidencies got Congressional approval for their "armed interventions." But the general point is sound. Neither Clinton nor Obama went to Congress.
I said "declared war", not to be nasty about it though. That's different than just an "approval".
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Don't argue with me! I'll tell Mom!...
Your Momma always liked you best! (Says the other brother from a different mother...)
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Never miss an opportunity to bash Trump .... even on a rather serious thread.
I'd have been disappointed otherwise...
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I said "declared war", not to be nasty about it though. That's different than just an "approval".
That's a difference without a distinction. Getting Congressional permission to send in armed forces is "declaring war", regardless of what the resolution calls it. The point of that clause in the Constitution is for Congress to provide the necessary check and balance on presidential use of military force.
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Your Momma always liked you best! (Says the other brother from a different mother...)
Well she did tie those pork chops around our necks so the dogs would play with us when you came to visit. ****sheep****
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That's a difference without a distinction. Getting Congressional permission to send in armed forces is "declaring war", regardless of what the resolution calls it. The point of that clause in the Constitution is for Congress to provide the necessary check and balance on presidential use of military force.
We'll agree to disagree but I think we can both agree that "declaring war" seems to be an optional thing for Presidents, and as such, is possibly the most pointless part of the Constitution.
Only way I could see it having teeth is if the opposite happened (Congress wanted to declare war but the President didn't).
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That's a difference without a distinction. Getting Congressional permission to send in armed forces is "declaring war", regardless of what the resolution calls it. The point of that clause in the Constitution is for Congress to provide the necessary check and balance on presidential use of military force.
Which was ignored by the last two Dem Preezies.
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Congress as a whole actually. Article 1, Section 8.
But technically it was already declared. We are under the Korean Armistice Agreement which would have to go back to the Senate for a change of status.
Thanks for the info!
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Armistice Agreement for the Restoration of the South Korean State (1953):
https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=85