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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: HonestJohn on October 21, 2016, 04:03:43 am

Title: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: HonestJohn on October 21, 2016, 04:03:43 am
The country’s most powerful Spanish-language journalist was not impressed with Trump’s final debate performance.

MATT WILSTEIN
10.20.16 4:18 PM ET

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/20/jorge-ramos-trump-lost-latinos-for-good-with-bad-hombres-line.html

Jorge Ramos lets out a small laugh when I ask him what he thought of Donald Trump’s promise to deport “bad hombres” during Wednesday night’s third and final presidential debate. But the Univision anchor and Fusion host doesn’t find anything about the Republican presidential nominee particularly funny.

Ramos, whose new documentary special Hate Rising explores how the “Trump effect” has spurred a rise of hate crimes and white nationalist groups in America, is feeling more confident than ever after last night’s debate that Trump will never reach the White House. But as he explains in the film, he fears the damage has already been done.

“Donald Trump did absolutely everything he needed to do last night to lose the Latino vote. Everything,” Ramos says. “He insulted immigrants again by calling them ‘bad hombres,’ he suggested that he wants to build a wall, he still wants to deport millions of immigrants.”

On the use of that Spanglish phrase, “bad hombres,” Ramos added, “He’s using a stereotype. And he’s absolutely wrong, because all of the studies that I’ve seen clearly conclude that immigrants are less likely to be criminals, or to be behind bars that those born in the United States. That’s a fact.” (He’s right.)

In Ramos’s view, Trump can’t ask for Latinos to vote for him in one breath and in the next say, “but I’m going to deport your neighbor, your father, or your brother.” Just this past weekend, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Telemundo poll shows that Trump is getting just 17% of the Latino vote. “With that, he cannot win the White House. It’s impossible,” Ramos says.

And he has the math on hand to back it up.

“Mitt Romney got 27 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2012 and he lost,” he continues. “McCain got 31 percent in 2008 and lost, too. So with 17 percent it is impossible. The new rule in American politics is you cannot make it to the White House without the Latino vote. And clearly Donald Trump won’t be able to do that.” 

(more at link)
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: biff on October 21, 2016, 04:54:41 am
If they came here illegally, they go back. Otherwise it is nothing more than blanket amnesty.

I live in the middle of illegal activity and when Trump abandoned his original illegal mantra he lost hundreds of thousands of natural born latinos. They are not stupid, they know that illegals come across the border and take their jobs. As well, their taxes go towards the billions of welfare the illegals take from real Americans.

All these so called expert journalists do not know crap about the real world, street world for Hispanics.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: geronl on October 21, 2016, 10:57:54 am
Trump is losing on purpose.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 21, 2016, 11:01:42 am
If you would be pissed off at the bad hombres line, you're were probably already not on board with Trump anyway.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: kevindavis007 on October 21, 2016, 03:19:19 pm
It is not like they are the fastest growing block in America.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: HAPPY2BME on October 21, 2016, 03:27:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1p6XImLEac

American Latinos for Trump Blast Politico: ‘I’m an American First’

“I think that Donald Trump is the only one that is going to be able to preserve our country for me to be able to achieve success and for my generation to be able to achieve success,” Gomez added.

He said the Politico article “shows how biased the media is.”

    @politico wants to mess with #LatinosForTrump now?They dont realize who they're messing with or the energy behind us pic.twitter.com/dys7OYwRmp

    — Angelo R. Gomez (@TrumpNVIntern) June 27, 2016

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/27/american-latinos-trump-blast-msm-politico-im-american-first-group-us-together-illegal-immigrants/

Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 21, 2016, 03:33:11 pm
The country’s most powerful Spanish-language journalist....

He is a discredited Liberal activist.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: Norm Lenhart on October 21, 2016, 03:36:14 pm
The country’s most powerful Spanish-language journalist....

He is a discredited Liberal activist.

Yup.
Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: corbe on October 21, 2016, 03:46:17 pm
   
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Latino Catholics are more Conservative than American Catholics.


Politics | Thu Nov 8, 2012 | 6:57pm EST

Most Catholics vote for Obama, but Latinos and whites divided
 



By Mary Wisniewski | CHICAGO [/b]

Post-election polling shows U.S. Roman Catholics were as likely to favor President Barack Obama as the general population in 2012, continuing the Catholic record as the bellwether of the popular vote.

Catholics - the country's largest religious group with one-quarter of the population - have supported the winner of the popular vote in every election since 1972.

  <..snip..>

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-religion-idUSBRE8A71M420121108 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-religion-idUSBRE8A71M420121108)

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   Further proof of Latino GOP support:

Bush's Hispanic Vote Dissected

By John F. Harris
Sunday, December 26, 2004; Page A06

 
  Political analysts are still scratching their heads over what share of the crucial Hispanic vote President Bush won last month. The National Annenberg Election Survey does not claim to have solved the mystery, but it is pretty sure about this much: Bush did significantly better with this bloc in 2004 than he did in 2000, and men are the reason.

<..snip..>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26119-2004Dec25.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26119-2004Dec25.html)



Title: Re: Jorge Ramos: Trump Lost Latinos for Good With ‘Bad Hombres’ Line
Post by: TomSea on October 21, 2016, 04:33:29 pm
Since you are a dual-citizen with Mexico Jorge, let's hear you criticize Mexico instead of being one more typical hypocrite.