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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2015, 01:13:34 pm »
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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2015, 01:15:52 pm »


I would put discrimination very high on the list of mankind's survival tools as well!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2015, 01:21:38 pm »
I would put discrimination very high on the list of mankind's survival tools as well!

Discrimination - that word has been stigmatized in today's world, almost always meaning "bad".  It is indeed a valuable and necessary tool in order to survive.  Thank you for that thought Bigun.  Got me thinking.
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« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2015, 01:45:22 pm »
Discrimination - that word has been stigmatized in today's world, almost always meaning "bad".  It is indeed a valuable and necessary tool in order to survive.  Thank you for that thought Bigun.  Got me thinking.

It is beyond that! It is ESSENTIAL to one's survival!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #79 on: September 15, 2015, 09:24:11 pm »
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« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2015, 06:41:39 pm »
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« Reply #81 on: December 09, 2015, 11:27:34 pm »
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« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2015, 12:16:57 am »
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« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2015, 03:31:26 pm »
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2015, 06:04:32 pm »
Some great thoughts expressed there.

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« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2016, 11:41:34 am »
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2016, 12:09:23 pm »
Discrimination...is indeed a valuable and necessary tool in order to survive.

I would add stereotyping to that list of survival tools as well. We use it daily in our interactions with strangers and acquaintances.

Example: You walk to your car in a parking garage at night. You see three people hanging out near your vehicle with no one else in sight. Without speaking to any of them, a stereotype will be automatically applied based on their apparent gender, race/ethnicity, age, clothing, and behavior. That stereotype will determine your actions.
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« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2016, 01:19:02 pm »
I would add stereotyping to that list of survival tools as well. We use it daily in our interactions with strangers and acquaintances.

Example: You walk to your car in a parking garage at night. You see three people hanging out near your vehicle with no one else in sight. Without speaking to any of them, a stereotype will be automatically applied based on their apparent gender, race/ethnicity, age, clothing, and behavior. That stereotype will determine your actions.

VERY true! Well said!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2016, 01:35:12 pm »
I need to re-state that quote with more of the complete thought.

"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns – or dollars. Take your choice – there is no other – and your time is running out."

My father used to say "what the slave master did with the whip, the government does with the dollar."

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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2016, 02:45:30 pm »
Looks like this nook needs to be cleaned up a bit.  A few image sources are no longer connecting,
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« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2016, 05:46:28 pm »
While not direct Ayn Rand quotes, the band Rush had some "Ayn Rand-ian" type lyrics and messages in their songs

"The Trees" has lyrics that could apply:

"So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw"

The song "Anthem" from the 1970's is closer . Read these lyrics and it's clear there's a message especially the parts I bolded:

Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me

Keep on looking forward, no use in looking 'round
Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down

Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
We marvel after those who sought
New wonders in the world, wonders in the world,
Wonders in the world they wrought

Live for yourself, there's no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will
Only cry out for more

Well, I know they've always told you
Selfishness was wrong
Yet it was for me, not you, I
Came to write this song


"Temples of Syrinx is another:

And the meek shall inherit the earth...

We've taken care of everything
The words you read, the songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It's one for all, all for one
We work together, common sons
Never need to wonder how or why


We are the priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers
Fill the hallowed halls
We are the priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life
Are held within our walls

Look around this world we made
Equality of stock in trade
Come and join the brotherhood of man
Oh what a nice contented world
Let the banners be unfurled
Hold the red star proudly high in hand


We are the priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers
Fill the hallowed halls
We are the priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life
Are held within our walls


   
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2016, 05:52:40 pm »
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2016, 11:25:35 pm »
I started reading Atlas Shrugged while on a plane a few years back and found it long and boring in parts but very applicable to events happening today
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2016, 11:28:31 pm »
I read Atlas Shrugged while on a plane a few years back and found it long and boring in parts but very applicable to events happening today

Wow, that was long plane ride!

I flew PanAm Flt #005 from San Francisco to Hong Kong several times.  Not enough time.
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2016, 11:34:06 pm »
Wow, that was long plane ride!


See edit... :tongue2:
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« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2016, 11:36:28 pm »
See edit... :tongue2:

LOL!!  Whew... I felt so... unworthy!
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« Reply #96 on: April 27, 2016, 11:44:03 pm »
Ayn Rand not only had experience with the abuses of collectivism but also had a keen understanding of human nature.

Which is why collectivism eventually fails. Human nature doesn't live by theories that come from highly educated people in IVY League schools. It's a deeply ingrained drive to seek and protect self interest. Ayn Rand understood this and so did the Framers, BTW. Which is why we are a Representitive Republic and not a pure democracy

A few of my In laws are all Bernie backers and rail against the rich and that they need to pay more taxes to fund health care, college for all, ect ect.

Recently, my brother and sister in law(Bernie Backers) bragged about the refund they got from the IRS. I asked how they got that and they talked about the deductions they qualified for. I pointed out if they don't want to pay more than they have to in taxes, why would they think anyone else would?
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« Reply #97 on: May 02, 2016, 09:48:01 pm »
Interesting development, although it appears from the story the legislator at issue isn't quite serious about this but has another agenda entirely. Too bad.

Reading Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" may become a requirement for high school graduation in Idaho if Coeur d'Alene Senator John Goedde, chairman of the Idaho Senate's Education Committee, decides to pursue the matter.
 
Goedde introduced a bill with the requirement but doesn't appear serious about pushing it:...

Goedde said he doesn't plan to press forward with the bill, but it was formally introduced in his committee Tuesday on a voice vote. He said he was sending a message to the State Board of Education, because he's unhappy with its recent move to repeal a rule requiring two online courses to graduate from high school, and with its decision to back off on another planned rule regarding principal evaluations.
 
"It was a shot over their bow just to let them know that there's another way to adopt high school graduation requirements," Goedde said after the meeting. "I don't intend to schedule a hearing on it."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/bill_introduced_in_idaho_that_makes_reading_atlas_shrugged_a_requirement_for_graduation.html

Just a side note, apropos of nothing. I have always loved the name of that city, Coeur d'Alene. Just so pretty.

Ok, carry on.

Interesting. I'm not happy with the State Board of Education, but that's an interesting response.

Couer d'Alene: French fur traders allegedly named the local Indian tribe the Coeur d'Alene out of respect for their tough trading practices. Translated from French Cœur d'Alène or Alêne literally means "heart of the awl" which might mean "sharp-hearted" or "shrewd".

The country up there is almost as pretty as the name, regardless of the meaning.
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Re: Ayn Rand and/or Atlas Shrugged Quotes to ponder
« Reply #98 on: October 13, 2016, 01:46:04 pm »
The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. - Ayn Rand
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« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2016, 02:40:18 pm »
The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. - Ayn Rand

That's a great quote!