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'We don't shower for a month... and we're often naked': Male soldiers warn female comrades of harsh conditions on frontline as Panetta lifts battlefield ban on women
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'We don't shower for a month... and we're often naked': Male soldiers warn female comrades of harsh conditions on frontline as Panetta lifts battlefield ban on women
Ex-soldiers tell of how they often have to relieve themselves inches away from one another inside cramped tanks
Other times they are all forced to strip naked and wash with power hoses
Say that it will be awkward having women thrown in the harrowing mix
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to announce plan today
By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 09:22 EST, 24 January 2013 | UPDATED: 10:54 EST, 24 January 2013
A number of former soldiers have spoken out against the move because of the tough logistical life of fighters on the front line, even though many outsiders see Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's decision to lift the ban on women serving in combat positions as a progressive move.
Some have spoken out about how the move ignores some of the realities of war, like disgusting unhygienic conditions and the way that soldiers are sometimes forced to change in front of one another, in favor of gender equality.
One wrote a letter in the Wall Street Journal describing the conditions he faced on the front line when he was involved in the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Up to 25 Marines at a time were packed into an amphibious assault vehicles intended to hold only 15, with the Marines sitting ontop of one another for long periods of time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267652/Mixed-reactions-allow-women-line-soldiers-warn-tough-disgusting-conditions-battlefield.html#ixzz2IuLKzwlx
mountaineer:
And how will women "that time of the month" deal with this? This is utter insanity.
From the article:
--- Quote ---Nancy Duff Campbell, the co-president of the National Women's Law Center, told MailOnline that female soldiers already undergo a specific training course dedicated to discussing gender-specific hygiene issues.
As a result, many use a tool called a Female Urinary Diversion Device (which effectively has a small tube that runs down one's pant leg) would allow women to urinate into a container if they were kept in a tank for a long period of time.
They also cover a number of ways to address their menstrual cycles by either taking daily menstruation suppressant pills.
'This isn't something new; part of this is a response to what has been going on for a long time,' Ms Duff Campbell said.
'I'm not particularly concerned about the hygienic concerns. There might be privacy concerns that you'd like to have but you cant have in a battle environment.'
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There are privacy concerns that need not arise at all, simply by not putting women in the "battle environment," moron.
andy58-in-nh:
There is only one reason for the promotion of such an "experiment": to damage America's military cohesion and effectiveness. There is no responsible military expert who believes this to be a good idea.
alicewonders:
--- Quote from: andy58-in-nh on January 24, 2013, 05:47:19 pm ---There is only one reason for the promotion of such an "experiment": to damage America's military cohesion and effectiveness. There is no responsible military expert who believe this to be a good idea.
--- End quote ---
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
......Marcus Tullius Cicero
andy58-in-nh:
The United States has long been betrayed by its political elites.
"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
- Sir John Harrington
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