Canadian businessman Kevin O’Leary proposes ‘erasing the border’ between US, Canada to combat China

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Canadian businessman Kevin O’Leary proposes ‘erasing the border’ between US, Canada to combat China
December 27, 2024 | Jason Cohen

Canadian businessman Kevin O’Leary proposed on Thursday that the United States and Canada eliminate the border between them to form a united front against China and Russia.

Trump suggested in a Christmas Day Truth Social post that Canada should become the United States’ 51st state, which the president-elect asserted would boost the northern country’s economy and provide it with military security. O’Leary, on “The Big Money Show,” said the potential economic and security benefits of the countries uniting are attractive prospects.


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[roamer_1]

This is all bullshit, you know...

First of all, Canada is a vast country. A conglomeration of provinces. It could not be managed as a single state. Those hawking this bullcrap seem to have no idea how big that land is. TEN provinces and three territories most of which are larger than most any state, though AK and TX are in the running...

So this is ludicrous from the get go... Absurd to consider its governance as a single state. This is the work of morons. Literal ignorant morons.

Secondly, it was once so - Or nearly so. Within my lifetime I could cross that border with nothing more than a valid driver's license. Duty was nearly non-existent (alcohol and tobacco). And I earned a living on both sides of the border, albeit that work I did in Canada was only incidental, and otherwise not worth the mention. Hunting and fishing were a little more expensive, but still a doable thing. Had things been left the way they were, I would be traveling often to BC and Alberta to bag a moose. Maybe even annually.

Far better to leave Canada sovereign and work on restoring the free trade and free passage that once was. There is little difference between us. And we once both prospered without the barriers

[jafo2010]

Trump making the claim Canada should be the 51st state reeks of his general ignorance on facts.  But that never stopped him in the past.

As mentioned above, Canada has 10 provinces,, and NEVER would they agree to be one state joined as part of the USA.  They would want to maintain their individual provinces.  And there are a number of territories, and they would not want to be part of one big state either.

It will not happen with his insulting them by referencing one state for the entire state.  And the whole of Canada is uber liberal, so once again, we would never see Republican leadership in Washington.  As the Republican POTUS to be, you would think he would be smarter about the politics.

We have enough problems, we surely do not need to add Canada to the list.

Better relations between the two countries would be welcome.  I was treated so horribly last time I flew there, I told the custom folks this is the last time I will ever come to this dumb *ss country.  I haven't been back.

[jmyrlefuller]

Y'all know I don't think he cares most of what his mouth and fingers (or those of his communications lackeys) are actually saying so long as he gets his worshippers to go along with him. He knows it's not feasible, the more outlandish it is, the less he has to worry about following through on it.

The incoming President is a lame duck. Remember that.

[Wingnut]

Usually we are over-run with cunuck snowbirds down here.  Covid hit and they couldn't come across the border.  They still aren't coming in droves like before due to the shitty Canadian dollar vs the US.  It's great. They can't drive for shit. They don't tip for shit. They expect a discount. And they pass there worthless coins off as american quarters. 

Why the hell would want to make them part of America?   Stay away.  To many of them walk among us anyway. 

[jafo2010]

From a strategic perspective, making Canada a part of the USA would enhance security on the northern border. 

They are a leading trade partner.  Unifying the two countries would reduce the cost for energy.  It is a huge country, land mass wise, so acquiring that land would also benefit the USA overall.

The primary issue is the mindset of the folks there, which is overwhelmingly uber liberal.  Their being added to the mix, with perhaps the ten provinces becoming states, that would adversely affect the balance of power in the USA, perhaps forever turning control of the USA over to the Democommies.  For this reason alone, it is a nonsense idea.!

[roamer_1]

The primary issue is the mindset of the folks there, which is overwhelmingly uber liberal.

I don't think that's true. I think it's just like here... Big cities are liberal. Vancouver is northern Seattle. But by and large, at least in the territories (Yukon, Northwest), inland British Columbia, Alberta, and western Saskatchewan, they're pretty much like folks right here where I live... Conservative. God fearing. Heartland. Redneck AF.

The border is there, sure. and there are some minor differences that are basically regional. But ways and means and mores don't know no boundaries.

[roamer_1]

Usually we are over-run with cunuck snowbirds down here.  Covid hit and they couldn't come across the border.  They still aren't coming in droves like before due to the shitty Canadian dollar vs the US.  It's great. They can't drive for shit. They don't tip for shit. They expect a discount. And they pass there worthless coins off as american quarters. 

Why the hell would want to make them part of America?   Stay away.  To many of them walk among us anyway.

As a point of observation from 60 miles south of Alberta... Looney bucks are always a percentage of Yankee bucks. And here, Canuck coins are just built in. They are accepted at face value, work in machines, and etc. It is at the bank that things get weird. They will not accept Canadian coins in a roll. They have to be rolled separately - How they know is beyond me. And those rolls are subject to the exchange rate.

Same goes with transactions in an informal way. Most businesses accept face value for small purchases... Taking the hit, I suppose, to encourage easy calculation for the tourists. I dunno where that line is drawn now... used to be around 20 bucks or so, where the difference was ignored. Above that line folks would start worrying the exchange rate.

[libertybele]

 My fear with Trump has always been that he will eventually connect Mexico, the US and Canada -- a North American Union.  I can foresee it happening.  That wall along the southern border which was supposed to be erected under the Secure Fence Act of 2006obviously has never been completed.  Perhaps this is the reason in the long run; unifying the countries.  Who wins in that scenario though?  Mexico gains BIGLY, but ultimately who would run all 3 countries at the same time??

[jafo2010]

Who would run all three countries when unified?

THE CARTELS, THAT IS WHO!!!!!!

No joke, you think the cartels are going to relax their grip?  They completely control Mexico and parts of the USA.  They just get more powerful.

I prefer the USA retains its sovereignty and screw Canada and Mexico.  Trade agreements are fine as long as they do not compromise the American people, which they have done for decades. 

[libertybele]

Who would run all three countries when unified?

THE CARTELS, THAT IS WHO!!!!!!

No joke, you think the cartels are going to relax their grip?  They completely control Mexico and parts of the USA.  They just get more powerful.

I prefer the USA retains its sovereignty and screw Canada and Mexico.  Trade agreements are fine as long as they do not compromise the American people, which they have done for decades.

Yes, absolutely I agree 100%; the  U.S. needs  to maintain its sovereignty. American exceptionalism needs to be first and foremost.

[roamer_1]

My fear with Trump has always been that he will eventually connect Mexico, the US and Canada -- a North American Union.  I can foresee it happening.  That wall along the southern border which was supposed to be erected under the Secure Fence Act of 2006obviously has never been completed.  Perhaps this is the reason in the long run; unifying the countries.  Who wins in that scenario though?  Mexico gains BIGLY, but ultimately who would run all 3 countries at the same time??

The NAU is where they are going, and they have been determined to get their way... For decades now.

And the new charter will not be under the US Constitution. Bet me. That's what they want.

[cato potatoe]

I have read surveys that suggest American conservatives would be competitive in zero provinces.  Albertans have libertarian tendencies, but are highly secular and approve of socialized medicine.  Alberta and Saskatchewan may vote like Colorado, and the rest of the country like Massachusetts or France. 

[libertybele]

The NAU is where they are going, and they have been determined to get their way... For decades now.

And the new charter will not be under the US Constitution. Bet me. That's what they want.

Yep, what we've experienced may have been to get the populace on board with the NAU.  Yes, that is what they want.  I hadn't thought about a new charter under the Constitution, but I think you are right. 

   We'll see what happens but my one fear looks like it may happen  .... Joe and Kamel were so bad, that people voted in the only true alternative without a second thought.   Joe and Kamel were part of Act I??  Trudeau is/was just as bad.

[jafo2010]

As a reminder, the globalist strategy was to unify Europe, to unify North America, and then unify Asia.  Once done, they would then unify the three regions into one globalist entity.

That's why I was delighted when Great Britain abandoned the European Union. 

Under no circumstance do I want to see the fulfillment of the globalist agenda.  I am perfectly fine keeping the USA a separate entity from Mexico and Canada.  They both have serious problems.  The cartels in Mexico, which really control the country, and the fact that the folks in Canada still bow down before the monarchy and recognize the king/queen as their leader.  I find it unacceptable.

If there is anything I abhor, it is monarchies.  A truly antiquated social order.  While they tend not to be as brutal as dictatorships, both forms of governance are verboten from my view!