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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #325 on: October 01, 2024, 07:59:57 pm »
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Alejandro Mayorkas said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Ana Cabrera Reports” that people who feel the federal government’s response to Hurricane Helene was insufficient were warned about increasing extreme weather events.
Of course. Climate change, and all that. They should have known it was coming.  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #326 on: October 01, 2024, 08:13:32 pm »
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Just want to note that nearly every chopper and plane up in the sky right now to help with storm recovery belong to private citizens. That’s who’s likely going to be there for you in a crisis, not the federal government. Plan accordingly.

That's a given. Neighbor helping neighbor is what we experienced during the pandemic and after hurricane Ian and neighbors are helping each other now after Helene.

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« Reply #327 on: October 01, 2024, 08:20:24 pm »
Of course. Climate change, and all that. They should have known it was coming.  *****rollingeyes*****

Yes the 'projected path' was that Helene would travel towards NC.  How could anyone predict or expect that there would be historic flooding??  IF they did indeed know, then why weren't people warned and evacuated?  OR did they know but didn't have time to issue evacuation orders or perhaps they knew there wasn't time to get out and completely failed to even try.  Once things start to get cleaned up a bit and people are able to come together again -- what actually happened will eventually be made known.

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #328 on: October 01, 2024, 08:23:34 pm »
Biden admin's FEMA 'equity' plan faces backlash amid historic hurricane damage: 'What an embarrassment'
FEMA states on their website that 'diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be optional'
Aubrie Spady By Aubrie Spady Fox News
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The Biden-Harris administration's disaster relief agency is facing backlash after its unearthed emergency management blueprint went viral amid the destructive hurricane that recently ravaged the southern U.S.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) website lists a set of three goals as part of their strategic plan to "address key challenges" in emergency management. The number one goal listed in the agency's priorities is to "instill equity as a foundation of emergency management."

The second goal is "Lead Whole of Community in Climate Resilience" and the third goal is "Promote & Sustain a Ready FEMA & Prepared Nation."

According to FEMA's plan, "Diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be optional."

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #329 on: October 01, 2024, 08:24:28 pm »
Biden admin's FEMA 'equity' plan faces backlash amid historic hurricane damage: 'What an embarrassment'
FEMA states on their website that 'diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be optional'
Aubrie Spady By Aubrie Spady Fox News
Published September 30, 2024 5:02pm EDT

The Biden-Harris administration's disaster relief agency is facing backlash after its unearthed emergency management blueprint went viral amid the destructive hurricane that recently ravaged the southern U.S.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) website lists a set of three goals as part of their strategic plan to "address key challenges" in emergency management. The number one goal listed in the agency's priorities is to "instill equity as a foundation of emergency management."

The second goal is "Lead Whole of Community in Climate Resilience" and the third goal is "Promote & Sustain a Ready FEMA & Prepared Nation."

According to FEMA's plan, "Diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be optional.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #330 on: October 01, 2024, 08:39:35 pm »
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Within 48 hours of the earthquake that struck Haiti in 2011, the 82nd Airborne had arrived from Fort Bragg, NC to Port-au-Prince to render aid.

It’s been 135 hours and the DOD still haven’t given dual status command for NC (they have for FL), still haven’t sent the aerial assets and high-water vehicles from Fort Bragg that FEMA requested, the 81st is off on a training exercise, and the men from various units trying to get home to help their families in the disaster zone are being denied leave. It is a complete shame and disgrace. Heads should roll.
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Oh, yeah - and I hear that while some members of TN National Guard are helping with flood relief, over 700 are on their way to the Middle East for a year-long deployment.

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« Reply #332 on: October 01, 2024, 10:41:18 pm »
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« Reply #333 on: October 01, 2024, 10:46:35 pm »
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« Reply #334 on: October 01, 2024, 11:16:48 pm »
Of course. Climate change, and all that. They should have known it was coming.  *****rollingeyes*****

Disgusting quote. Trump should play that on a loop in the affected areas.

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« Reply #335 on: October 01, 2024, 11:46:44 pm »
Disgusting quote. Trump should play that on a loop in the affected areas.
Play it everywhere. Just about every place in the country has the potential for a disaster, be it fire, flooding, blizzard, hurricane, earthquake, or tornado. Let people see that they had best consider whether whoever they elect will do anything to help them--for that matter, whether they are even competent enough to get out a rescue and relief effort in times of disaster.
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« Reply #336 on: October 01, 2024, 11:54:55 pm »
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« Reply #338 on: October 02, 2024, 12:31:54 am »
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« Reply #339 on: October 02, 2024, 01:36:17 pm »
11 Tennessee factory workers swept away in Helene floodwaters, company responds to evacuation decision
Impact Plastics management responds following employee deaths, some still missing in Tennessee
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Employees forced to work at a Tennessee plastics factory are recounting the day historic flooding took over their parking lot and caused the power to go out. Once the plant shut down, and they were sent home, several of the workers did not make it.

Floodwaters swept 11 people away, and only five were rescued. Two of them are confirmed dead and part of the death toll across the affected states that passed 150 Tuesday, The Associated Press reported.

"We were all talking to the supervisors and telling everybody, ‘Look, we don’t need to be here,'" Impact Plastic employee Zinna Adkins told WJHL. "Our phone alerts were saying we need to flee the areas. And they never said anything about it. And supervisors didn’t tell us that we could go."

Management of the company founded in 1987 and the factory located in Erwin sent out a statement to local media on Monday that "expressed sympathy for the missing and deceased employees and one contractor."

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #340 on: October 02, 2024, 02:08:36 pm »
11 Tennessee factory workers swept away in Helene floodwaters, company responds to evacuation decision
Impact Plastics management responds following employee deaths, some still missing in Tennessee
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I am not exactly defending this company, but it is pretty much universal policy that industrial sites have hurricane "ride out" crews that are there to keep the site safe, and minimize any damage (real and environmental).  Done it myself. 

What appears to be missing are contingency plans that would have placed the group out of harms way.  It could have been an elevated structure,  or construction of walls and levees to protect the site.   Now this is me, and just my take, but I remember that there are ultra-macho guys who feel they have an obligation to protect the equipment at their own peril.  Not sure this entered into the tragedy, but.....

Secondly, these sites have sat phones, and other ways to monitor NHC and NWS data to make smart calls when comes to natural emergencies. There is a reason there are almost hourly hydrological updates during these emergencies.  Something broke down in this process.
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« Reply #341 on: October 02, 2024, 02:14:38 pm »
Not the same but I got caught in a flood one spring when the ice dam on the river broke up stream.  We had enough time to get to higher ground.  One thing I remember was that water moves fast and tie down the beer cooler.
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« Reply #342 on: October 02, 2024, 05:21:31 pm »
Biden sending up to 1,000 troops to North Carolina and other Helene disaster zones
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President Joe Biden authorized the Department of Defense to send 1,000 active-duty U.S. troops to aid states struggling in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene.

The president made the announcement Wednesday, as the White House indicated that most of the troops will be focused in North Carolina, one of the coastal states hardest hit by the natural disaster.

“These soldiers will speed up the delivery of life-saving supplies of food, water, and medicine to isolated communities in North Carolina — they have the manpower and logistical capabilities to get this vital job done, and fast,” Biden said in a statement announcing the directive. “They will join hundreds of North Carolina National Guard members deployed under State authorities in support of the response.”

DOD Secretary Pat Ryder said the soldiers are moving to the affected areas “within the next 24 hours” in a statement released Wednesday.

The National Guard has already activated more than 6,500 guardsmen to assist with disaster relief efforts.

Ryder said the additional 1,000 soldiers from the Infantry Battalion Task Force mission “will include delivering support and commodities to impacted and isolated communities, assisting with supply point logistics at commodity staging locations, and removing debris from affected routes.”

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #343 on: October 02, 2024, 07:08:42 pm »
Biden sending up to 1,000 troops to North Carolina and other Helene disaster zones
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President Joe Biden authorized the Department of Defense to send 1,000 active-duty U.S. troops to aid states struggling in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene.

The president made the announcement Wednesday, as the White House indicated that most of the troops will be focused in North Carolina, one of the coastal states hardest hit by the natural disaster.

“These soldiers will speed up the delivery of life-saving supplies of food, water, and medicine to isolated communities in North Carolina — they have the manpower and logistical capabilities to get this vital job done, and fast,” Biden said in a statement announcing the directive. “They will join hundreds of North Carolina National Guard members deployed under State authorities in support of the response.”

DOD Secretary Pat Ryder said the soldiers are moving to the affected areas “within the next 24 hours” in a statement released Wednesday.

The National Guard has already activated more than 6,500 guardsmen to assist with disaster relief efforts.

Ryder said the additional 1,000 soldiers from the Infantry Battalion Task Force mission “will include delivering support and commodities to impacted and isolated communities, assisting with supply point logistics at commodity staging locations, and removing debris from affected routes.”

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Gosh Brandon and Company sure pulled out all the stops to respond to this disaster that has so drastically affected Americans….NOT! Am I the only one who feels the response by these Jackwads would have been completely different if the majoriy of those affected were illegals instead of Americans. And you can bet Maydorkas would have never blamed LaRaza for not being prepared like he did Americans.

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« Reply #344 on: October 02, 2024, 07:10:51 pm »
Gosh Brandon and Company sure pulled out all the stops to respond to this disaster that has so drastically affected Americans….NOT! Am I the only one who feels the response by these Jackwads would have been completely different if the majoriy of those affected were illegals instead of Americans. And you can bet Maydorkas would have never blamed LaRaza for not being prepared like he did Americans.

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« Reply #346 on: October 02, 2024, 08:14:14 pm »
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JUST IN - MAYORKAS: FEMA DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAKE IT THROUGH HURRICANE SEASON

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« Reply #347 on: October 02, 2024, 08:16:33 pm »
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BREAKING:

Hurricane Helene update- 6 children were just found, their parents are dead. 

The children (not sure if all at this time) were raped by illegal aliens.

THIS IS ON YOU JOE BIDEN, ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS AND KAMALA HARRIS.

Another horror story - a surgeon from Polk County volunteering up in western NC had to stop pulling bodies out as it was so incredibly awful and he was overwhelmed.

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« Reply #348 on: October 02, 2024, 08:18:51 pm »
Maybe we could get a loan from Zellinskyy
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« Reply #349 on: October 02, 2024, 08:20:32 pm »
Wow, how about giving them some time and see what happens. The governors are already praisng FEMA saying FEMA started contacting them even before the storm hit to get the process moving. They learned from Katrinia what not to do.
Which governors? Can you cite a source?