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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2024, 06:41:43 pm »
How about a real conservative next time?, because the past 36 years of choices have sucked.

Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2024, 06:46:50 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2024, 06:48:03 pm »
Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

Good grief, no wonder this country is in turmoil.  Conservatism is now considered a hobby and nonsense.  Please end the worship of populism at best with socialism peering just around the corner.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2024, 06:56:46 pm »
Good grief, no wonder this country is in turmoil.  Conservatism is now considered a hobby and nonsense. 

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No, dear.  Political strategy is the hobby.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2024, 06:58:48 pm »
Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

Oh one was elected president. And several to governorships. and many to congress and the senate, not to mention statehouses, where they are strong in many states.

So as usual, your statements are bullcrap.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2024, 07:01:52 pm »
Anyone who wants better choices needs to get involved at the beginning of the process rather than just at the end. Note: That is aimed at everyone, not just any single poster.

Excellent point @Bigun  :thumbsup:

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2024, 07:02:32 pm »
Bush '43 drubbed fiscal conservatives, Constitutional conservatives, smaller Government conservatives, Adam Smith capititalist conservatives, etc., out of the GOP (as RINO's) for not carrying W's dirty dishwater.

For Bush '43, it was his way or the highway for principled conservatives ... to the Tea Party, Freedom Caucus, etc.

Bush '43 was a conservative in name only.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2024, 03:58:52 am »
Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2024, 04:16:22 am »
Over the years, I have been told numerous times by Trump zealots that my support is not needed, nor even wanted.  So why call now?  They've made no secret of their utter contempt for Conservative principles nor have they held back any ridicule.  Go find some other sucker.

You want my vote?  Then start limiting government and reduce spending.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2024, 04:20:08 am »
No, dear.  Political strategy is the hobby.

Do you have any idea how much Conservatives hate politics?  Repeal the 17th Amendment.  Reduce the number of tax brackets down to one.  Reduce spending below 18% of GDP.  And call it a day.  It really is that simple.

But no, you want to play politics just like every other Democrat.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2024, 04:21:50 am »
I stopped on this "stinker" article, at the exact moment they spewed the term "MAGA conservative"

An oxymoron for sure.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2024, 04:25:25 am »
It's Biden's election to lose, and he's doing a good job of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I had planned to vote for Biden / against Trump.

But, things have changed ...

1.) The IRS wants back penalties and interest for 2022 taxes we've already paid in full.
2.) My town is raising property taxes to party pay for Biden's illegal immigrants.
3.) My water district just sent us a letter saying they have a $2 miliion deficit due to the cost of complying with Biden's EPA regulations.

I'm open to actually voting for Trump again, because I've received 3 reminders of the cost of keeping Biden in office.
You don't drive? I get 'reminded' every time I pull up to a gas pump.

Not to mention his war on the industry I made my career in.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2024, 04:26:21 am »
Orange Sickness is insidious....   Seek help soon
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Why?  My post (see below) had nothing to do with Trump.  It's about Boomer "conservatives" who think of themselves as superior political strategists ---- with only decades of failures as proof.    What did I get wrong?

Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2024, 04:28:16 am »
Do you have any idea how much Conservatives hate politics? 

They sure do enjoy preaching about it.   :laugh:

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2024, 04:35:16 am »
They sure do enjoy preaching about it.   :laugh:

Uh, no.  Not politics.  It's not in our nature.  The study of power is an anathema to 'limited government'.  The overwhelming majority of our "preaching" on this forum centers on what we DON'T want government doing.  (e.g. printing up $8 trillion to fund four years of government spending, giving out 'stimulus checks', usurping landlord rights, raising tariffs on consumers, etc.)
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2024, 04:35:36 am »
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Why?  My post (see below) had nothing to do with Trump.  It's about Boomer "conservatives" who think of themselves as superior political strategists ---- with only decades of failures as proof.    What did I get wrong?

You're so FOS.  Your modus operandi is Trump 24/7/365.  And don't say otherwise.

To you a thread with Trump's name on it, is like drawing dung beetles to a dog park. Deflecting only makes you look silly.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2024, 05:06:47 am »
You're so FOS.  Your modus operandi is Trump 24/7/365.  And don't say otherwise.

To you a thread with Trump's name on it, is like drawing dung beetles to a dog park. Deflecting only makes you look silly.


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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2024, 05:25:00 am »
You're so FOS.  Your modus operandi is Trump 24/7/365.  And don't say otherwise.

To you a thread with Trump's name on it, is like drawing dung beetles to a dog park. Deflecting only makes you look silly.


Sure, I'm a Trump supporter.  That's certainly no secret.  But this is what triggered my response:


How about a real conservative next time?, because the past 36 years of choices have sucked.

Boomers have been running the world for the past 36 years, but lacked the talent, stamina and conviction to get one of these "conservatives" elected dog catcher, nevermind President.

So, if it isn't asking too much, please end the non-stop, hackneyed "real conservative" nonsense.  Maybe consider another hobby altogether.

Thanks.

What did I get wrong about conservative Boomers?

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2024, 05:39:53 am »
Uh, no.  Not politics.  It's not in our nature.  The study of power is an anathema to 'limited government'.  The overwhelming majority of our "preaching" on this forum centers on what we DON'T want government doing. 

It's *still* preaching about governance ----- and the people *still* ignore the sermons.   :shrug:

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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2024, 05:43:04 am »
It's *still* preaching about governance ----- and the people *still* ignore the sermons.   :shrug:

No.  Just those who support Democrats.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2024, 05:44:28 am »
What did I get wrong about conservative Boomers?

The Conservative part, and the Boomer part.
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2024, 11:34:08 am »
Over the years, I have been told numerous times by Trump zealots that my support is not needed, nor even wanted.  So why call now?  They've made no secret of their utter contempt for Conservative principles nor have they held back any ridicule.  Go find some other sucker.

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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2024, 12:14:09 pm »
I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and 2016. He wasn’t what I would call a “true conservative” as he’s more libertarian but he has a record of reducing spending and the growth of government

Trump is not a true conservative, but that’s not the issue. The issue are the issues. He inherited a stable growing  economy and crashed it and left us with inflation and he and his supporters pat themselves on the back for a job well done. He left us with even more unsustainable debt and he and his supporters pat themselves on the back for a job well done. He damaged the economy with tariffs and he and his supporters pat themselves for a job well done. The list goes on and on

Now, he’s shifted further leftward on economic policy. None of what he’s proposing addresses the issue of inflation or an ever expanding and increasingly unaffordable federal government

The MAGA movement and the socialist both believe that a large federal government will work if “they” ran it
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2024, 12:28:24 pm »
So because Madge & Jethro were bamboozled by the same traveling con artist, the rest of us are supposed to turn our brains off and participate in another scam.  Just ignore every bit of evidence and pretend this cretin is going to leave the country in better shape than he found it.

Despite the snarky meme that followed you, his supporters have no real reply to this, and they know it
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Re: Calling All Reluctant Trumpers
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2024, 01:05:35 pm »
I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and 2016. He wasn’t what I would call a “true conservative” as he’s more libertarian but he has a record of reducing spending and the growth of government

Trump is not a true conservative, but that’s not the issue. The issue are the issues. He inherited a stable growing  economy and crashed it and left us with inflation and he and his supporters pat themselves on the back for a job well done. He left us with even more unsustainable debt and he and his supporters pat themselves on the back for a job well done. He damaged the economy with tariffs and he and his supporters pat themselves for a job well done. The list goes on and on

Now, he’s shifted further leftward on economic policy. None of what he’s proposing addresses the issue of inflation or an ever expanding and increasingly unaffordable federal government

The MAGA movement and the socialist both believe that a large federal government will work if “they” ran it

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