If the Dems ditch Biden, what then?

[mystery-ak]

May 22, 2024
If the Dems ditch Biden, what then?
By Mark C. Ross

Douglas MacKinnon, writing in The Hill, recently suggested that the Democrats were going to nominate somebody else at their August convention.  No problem here — and his reason is that Ol’ Joe is so unpopular that anybody else would do better against Trump.  But how much better?

Besides the obvious problem of the horrible optics that come with dumping the nation’s chief executive in front of the whole world, there’s also the problem of timing.  August is perhaps way too late to grab a fresh candidate out of (ahem) a rather limited bullpen.  Actually, all of 2024 is way too late from the standpoint of political feasibility.  FYI, Lyndon Johnson withdrew consideration for his second full term on March 31, 1968 — in the face of similar distress within his party — and Johnson was a much more astute politician than Biden...which still didn’t help Hubert Humphrey at all.

Others are also speculating that Biden’s abrupt commitment to debate Trump was really a move by party insiders to expedite Biden’s collapse and subsequent withdrawal.  But to what end?

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[DB]

Both candidates are widely disliked.

A sudden alternative may well win in a landslide. It takes time to find out the negative details of a candidate and with little time left that may well work in their favor.

This situation is unlike any from the past to reference to.

[PeteS in CA]

Cankles - Cackles 2024

[LMAO]

There is a lot of risks for Democrats to replace Biden at this point

But I can’t see Biden doing a full campaign season. He can’t finish two sentences even with a teleprompter . And his handlers and the press  are  having a more difficult time hiding his decline from the public

[Fishrrman]

ol' white joe isn't going to make it through a second term.
Everyone knows that.

He might not even make it until his second term.

What to do... what to do...?
How about... "The Great Switcheroo" ???

joe bows out either just before or during the DCommunist convention, taking kamala with him.

Start up the smoky backrooms.
Who will then get the nod...?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

ol' white joe isn't going to make it through a second term.
Everyone knows that.

He might not even make it until his second term.

What to do... what to do...?
How about... "The Great Switcheroo" ???

joe bows out either just before or during the DCommunist convention, taking kamala with him.

Start up the smoky backrooms.
Who will then get the nod...?

Why would Joe/Jill choose to do that?   Nobody has the ability to force him out so it has to be his decision.  And if he did that, it would be an admission on his part that he is too old/useless/incompetent.  And what ego-driven elderly politician wants to admit to themselves that their life is basically over? 

Especially this guy, for whom being President is his life's ambition.

[DB]

Why would Joe/Jill choose to do that?   Nobody has the ability to force him out so it has to be his decision.  And if he did that, it would be an admission on his part that he is too old/useless/incompetent.  And what ego-driven elderly politician wants to admit to themselves that their life is basically over? 

Especially this guy, for whom being President is his life's ambition.

All they have to do is let his obvious corruption become a DOJ issue instead of burying it. Game over for Biden.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

All they have to do is let his obvious corruption become a DOJ issue instead of burying it. Game over for Biden.

The time to have done that was last fall.   Doing it this close to the election would be a disaster for them, and Joe/Jill would fight it anyway.  It would be dragged out until well after the election.  Not to mention that leaves them with Kamala....

A huge problem they have is that their party is as fractured as ours. That's the reason Biden was the nominee in 2020, and that's the reason why he wasn't challenged in 2024.  They needed someone who was kind of a blank slate and didn't really represent any particular faction of the party.

But if you replace him, there would now have to be a fight as to who the replacement nominee would be. It also would mean that voters themselves would have no voice as to who the nominee would be, which will piss off whatever faction loses.

The time to have gotten rid of Joe would have been last year so that they could have had a normal primary process to select a new nominee. That window has closed for them, so they are stuck with Joe.

[LMAO]

The time to have done that was last fall.   Doing it this close to the election would be a disaster for them, and Joe/Jill would fight it anyway.  It would be dragged out until well after the election.  Not to mention that leaves them with Kamala....

A huge problem they have is that their party is as fractured as ours. That's the reason Biden was the nominee in 2020, and that's the reason why he wasn't challenged in 2024.  They needed someone who was kind of a blank slate and didn't really represent any particular faction of the party.

But if you replace him, there would now have to be a fight as to who the replacement nominee would be. It also would mean that voters themselves would have no voice as to who the nominee would be, which will piss off whatever faction loses.

The time to have gotten rid of Joe would have been last year so that they could have had a normal primary process to select a new nominee. That window has closed for them, so they are stuck with Joe.

Agree

I’ve been hearing how they’re gonna get rid of Biden for the last three years and replace him with Michelle Obama and yet he still here and out there campaigning. 

It will be Trump and Biden this November

[rustynail]

Obama calls the play.

[DefiantMassRINO]

I bet Hilldawg has an updated 2024 enemies list of Dems to purge from the Party.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Agree

I’ve been hearing how they’re gonna get rid of Biden for the last three years and replace him with Michelle Obama and yet he still here and out there campaigning. 

It will be Trump and Biden this November

The speculation was more reasonable before both of them had sewn up an automatic first round win at their respective Conventions.

[DB]

The curtain is wide open on Biden. There's no hiding what a mess he is anymore.

I'll still be shocked if the Democrats can stomach that humiliation come election day.

Democrats are pretty creative at getting what they want and are not hindered by the law, ethics or much else. Just look at the current New York "trial" for reference...

[The_Reader_David]

A better move for the 'Rats would be to keep Biden and replace Harris with someone likeable, with the idea that the VP would succeed to the Presidency in short order.  I'm not sure who they have that would be likeable, since their whole party is dominated by woke scolds and those who aren't are swamp creatures like Pelosi and Schumer, but they can surely find someone closer to likeable than Harris.