General Category > Second Amendment
Supreme Court Emergency Decision To End All Firearm Permits Nationwide Gets Put Into Motion
rangerrebew:
Supreme Court Emergency Decision To End All Firearm Permits Nationwide Gets Put Into Motion
©Image Credit: NBC News / 9NEWS
In a groundbreaking development, the Supreme Court is set to consider an emergency decision that could potentially end all firearm permits nationwide. This move comes after a significant legal battle challenging New York’s stringent permit requirements for purchasing and possessing rifles and shotguns. The case has been advanced to the full Supreme Court for review, marking a pivotal moment for Second Amendment rights in the United States.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-emergency-decision-to-end-all-firearm-permits-nationwide-gets-put-into-motion/ss-BB1mQnhh?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=310bb84e5e014f3a934bc59e559102bb&ei=13
Elderberry:
Initial Legal Proceedings
Initially, the emergency application to halt the permit requirements was submitted to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who is responsible for the Second Circuit. However, Justice Sotomayor denied the application. The plaintiffs then resubmitted the application to Justice Clarence Thomas, who referred it to the full court for consideration. This significant step means the case will be reviewed in a Supreme Court conference.
The Bruen Precedent
The plaintiffs’ argument hinges on the precedent set by the Supreme Court’s decision in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen. In Bruen, the Court struck down New York’s “proper cause” requirement for concealed carry permits, stating it violated the Second and Fourteenth Amendments. The plaintiffs assert that the current permit requirements for purchasing and possessing rifles and shotguns are similarly unconstitutional.
Legal Arguments
The case, officially titled Joseph Srour v. City of New York, challenges the constitutionality of New York City’s discretionary licensing scheme. The district court previously granted a permanent injunction against the “good moral character” requirement, ruling it improper. However, the city appealed, and the Second Circuit granted a stay on the injunction, allowing the permit requirements to remain in effect pending appeal.
Implications of the Supreme Court Review
If the Supreme Court rules in favor of the plaintiffs, it could lead to a nationwide end to discretionary firearm permit requirements. Such a decision would affirm that individuals have the right to purchase and possess firearms without arbitrary restrictions imposed by local authorities.
roamer_1:
I've never had a 'firearm permit' in my life. I have often carried, often concealed. Never had a permit, one.
Why the hell would anyone obey that?
Smokin Joe:
--- Quote from: roamer_1 on May 22, 2024, 03:09:07 pm ---I've never had a 'firearm permit' in my life. I have often carried, often concealed. Never had a permit, one.
Why the hell would anyone obey that?
--- End quote ---
In some jurisdictions, there is a requirement for a permit to purchase a firearm, not just a requirement to carry one concealed or otherwise. I've had a carry permit for pistol or revolver from 1982 here (issued by the county Sheriff, at first, then transitioned to a permit to carry firearms and/or dangerous weapons at the State Level some years later), which I maintain to keep me in the 'good guys' database, but is wholly unneeded now with Constitutional Carry in ND. When traveling elsewhere, however, that card has a little weight in the case of a traffic stop, showing I am not a person given to criminal behaviour.
There are states which do not recognize reciprocity, and that shouldn't even matter, as the Second Amendment is all the permit anyone should need. Traveling across the country can be a real mess of rules that change with imaginary lines, and what we consider normal and prudent behaviour out west here is pure felony territory in some places. It's nuts if you ask me, but I just walk softly when there, and try not to spend the night.
roamer_1:
--- Quote from: Smokin Joe on May 22, 2024, 03:51:31 pm ---In some jurisdictions, there is a requirement for a permit to purchase a firearm, not just a requirement to carry one concealed or otherwise. I've had a carry permit for pistol or revolver from 1982 here (issued by the county Sheriff, at first, then transitioned to a permit to carry firearms and/or dangerous weapons at the State Level some years later), which I maintain to keep me in the 'good guys' database, but is wholly unneeded now with Constitutional Carry in ND. When traveling elsewhere, however, that card has a little weight in the case of a traffic stop, showing I am not a person given to criminal behaviour.
There are states which do not recognize reciprocity, and that shouldn't even matter, as the Second Amendment is all the permit anyone should need. Traveling across the country can be a real mess of rules that change with imaginary lines, and what we consider normal and prudent behaviour out west here is pure felony territory in some places. It's nuts if you ask me, but I just walk softly when there, and try not to spend the night.
--- End quote ---
Well... I just won't go to such a place. But if I did, I would surely be packing.
What the law has to say has always been a bit of a gray area. What's up in the holler stays in the holler, after all... :whistle:
When the law tells me not to defend myself, I'm not going to listen very hard.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
Go to full version