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The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« on: May 10, 2024, 03:15:08 am »
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2024, 03:15:45 am »
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2024, 05:07:28 am »
Only the voters can drain the swamp by not re-electing incumbents.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2024, 06:15:22 pm »
I view the "swamp" as the unelected bureaucrats who make and implement policy throughout the executive branch.  So to drain that swamp, two things must happen:

1) an incoming president must fire immediately all political appointees from the prior Administration, throughout every administrative agency.  That will likely cause some short-term chaos, but it will definitely be worth it.

2) reclassify more higher ranking civil service positions into political appointee positions so that civil servants with more discretionary authority can be replaced by an incoming president.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2024, 10:05:57 pm »
"The swamp" can be "neutralized" without having to actually "drain" it.

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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2024, 10:37:01 pm »
Don't hold your breath for Trump draining anything.  In his 1st term, he kept 1,400 Obama appointees in place, and his FAILURE to purge these commies (yes, literally many were avowed commies) undermined him every damn day.

No one has the ability or the will to drain the swamp.  NO ONE!!!!  It is here to stay.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2024, 11:00:29 pm »
It is the cause of any government to preserve and extend itself. It's what they do.

"the swamp' is inevitable and a natural result of big government.

The way you get rid of the swamp is to get rid of the government. put it back in its Constitutional box,and keep it there, starving and chained.

Anyone who tells you different is lying through their teeth.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2024, 12:42:23 am »
Quote from: jafo2010 on May 10, 2024, 10:37:01 pm
Don't hold your breath for Trump draining anything.  In his 1st term, he kept 1,400 Obama appointees in place, and his FAILURE to purge these commies (yes, literally many were avowed commies) undermined him every damn day.

No one has the ability or the will to drain the swamp.  NO ONE!!!!  It is here to stay.

In order to drain the swamp a conservative AG needs to be appointed and from there, the process of draining the swamp may have a chance.

The only one that I believe that has that capability, knowledge and integrity to do so would be Ted Cruz. 

Unfortunately, Trump didn't utilize Cruz's capabilities and I don't see Trump utilizing him in that capacity should he somehow win re-election.

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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2024, 04:47:20 pm »
Trump will not “Drain the swamp.”  He wants its power for himself.

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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2024, 05:37:43 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on May 11, 2024, 12:42:23 am
In order to drain the swamp a conservative AG needs to be appointed and from there, the process of draining the swamp may have a chance.

The only one that I believe that has that capability, knowledge and integrity to do so would be Ted Cruz. 

Unfortunately, Trump didn't utilize Cruz's capabilities and I don't see Trump utilizing him in that capacity should he somehow win re-election.


Like Trump, Cruz is all talk no action.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2024, 05:46:26 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on May 10, 2024, 10:05:57 pm
"The swamp" can be "neutralized" without having to actually "drain" it.

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We’re all the one Trump should call, fish!
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2024, 07:14:06 pm »
What it will require to drain the Swamp will be alot of dead bodies down a deep hole.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2024, 07:26:12 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on May 11, 2024, 12:42:23 am
The only one that I believe that has that capability, knowledge and integrity to do so would be Ted Cruz. 

Unfortunately, Trump didn't utilize Cruz's capabilities and I don't see Trump utilizing him in that capacity should he somehow win re-election.

Cruz chose staying in the Senate the first time @libertybele and will most likely again in Trump's 2nd term.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2024, 07:47:19 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 11, 2024, 07:26:12 pm
Cruz chose staying in the Senate the first time @libertybele and will most likely again in Trump's 2nd term.

I must have missed it. What position did Trump offer Cruz in his administration? 
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2024, 08:11:59 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on May 11, 2024, 07:47:19 pm
I must have missed it. What position did Trump offer Cruz in his administration?

You miss a lot of stuff.  I'll be okay with keeping you up to speed on this election, but tutoring classes on past elections are closed.   88devil
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2024, 08:34:48 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 11, 2024, 08:11:59 pm
You miss a lot of stuff.  I'll be okay with keeping you up to speed on this election, but tutoring classes on past elections are closed.   88devil

IOW you're once again making up crappola.  Trump never offered Cruz a position in his administration. He missed the opportunity and because he didn't listen to Cruz nor utilize his talents, he FAILED.
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Re: The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2024, 09:09:27 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 11, 2024, 08:11:59 pm
You miss a lot of stuff.  I'll be okay with keeping you up to speed on this election, but tutoring classes on past elections are closed.   88devil

Nothing like responding by deflecting, and not answering the question.  You've become an expert at that.
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