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No idea where to post this....I thought she was more politically savvy than this.. :thud:

Noem Defends Killing Dog, Suggests Biden’s Dog Should Be Shot

Pam Key 5 May 2024

Governor Kristi Noem (R-SD) said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that she had to kill her dangerous dog, adding that President Joe Biden’s dog “has attacked 24 Secret Service people.”

Partial transcript as follows:

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so you don’t agree with Mr. Trump’s statement there. I want to ask you again about the book. I- I know you know, this question is coming, because there’s been such an enormous backlash about your revelation that you shot and killed a Wirehair Pointer or named Cricket, who was 14 months old. You say in the book, she came from another family that struggled with her aggression, you’d been training her to hunt, she got too excited, ruined the hunt, and then attacked and killed some chickens. I wonder if you have regrets about sharing this story.

    NOEM: You know, Margaret, this book is filled with vulnerable, painful moments in my life, filled with times where I’ve made very difficult decisions. The reason that this story is in the book because people need to understand who I am and some of those difficult decisions. This was a dangerous animal that was killing livestock and attacking people. And- and I had little children at the time, our operation had many kids running around and people in interaction with the public. And I made a difficult choice. I think you’re a mother too. And you have little kiddos, would you make a choice between your children or a dangerous animal? And I think I would ask everybody in the country to put themselves in that situation. Because that’s what I faced and I talk about it because what I’m tired of in this country is politicians who pretend to be something that they’re not. That they aren’t willing to have the hard conversations and look at the past and the tough decisions that they’ve made. I’m- what I talk about in the book extensively when people are able to get it on Tuesday is to see the whole story and the truth, not the spin that the media has put on this story. The media has put some or removed- removed most of the facts and and what the reason this is in there is because I want people to know that I don’t ask anybody else to take on my responsibilities. I understood my responsibility. And as a mom, I made a choice between protecting my children, and protecting them from a dangerous animal that was killing livestock and attacking people. And that’s a decision that I made–

    BRENNAN:  — Well, I-I described- I described- I think accurately how you wrote it up in the book. You didn’t say the dog attacked people, you said it had tried to bite you. And I just wonder why you concluded that a young dog was untrainable and not just take it to a shelter?

    NOEM: This dog was a- well, this dog was a working dog. And it had come from a family that already had issues with this dog. And I had put months and months of training into this dog. This dog had gone to other trainers as well. So -so all of that is the facts of the story. And all of that shows that when you put someone in a position where they have to make a decision, and they want to protect their family, and protect children and other people from getting attacked from an animal that has attacked others and killed livestock, that’s the choice I made over 20 years ago. And that I didn’t ask somebody else to take- take that responsibility for me, that I had to make that decision myself.

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2024, 06:42:43 pm »
No idea where to post this....I thought she was more politically savvy than this.. :thud:


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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2024, 07:14:03 pm »
Remarkable, isn’t it?

I have no problem with her putting the dog down but writing about it in her book was just plain stupid.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2024, 07:19:04 pm »
When you’re in a hole maybe stop digging?

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2024, 07:19:56 pm »
I have no problem with her putting the dog down but writing about it in her book was just plain stupid.

Exactly...some things you just keep to yourself..the world doesn't have to know..
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2024, 07:20:12 pm »
When you’re in a hole maybe stop digging?

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2024, 08:42:53 pm »
I have no problem with her putting the dog down but writing about it in her book was just plain stupid.

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2024, 09:42:58 pm »
Now, Obama actually ate dog didn't he?

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2024, 09:46:30 pm »
When you’re in a hole maybe stop digging?

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2024, 11:43:11 pm »
I have no problem with her putting the dog down but writing about it in her book was just plain stupid.



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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2024, 01:27:43 am »
Now, Obama actually ate dog didn't he?

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2024, 01:29:57 am »
I have no problem with her putting the dog down but writing about it in her book was just plain stupid.

The part that impresses me the most is that she isn't backing down.  When was the last time a Republican did that?  No apology tour.  No groveling to the press.  No cowardice in her job.  She did it.  She said she did it.  She explained why.  And she stands by her decision.  I would vote to put someone like this in the White House in a Dakota minute.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2024, 08:43:59 am »
The part that impresses me the most is that she isn't backing down.  When was the last time a Republican did that?  No apology tour.  No groveling to the press.  No cowardice in her job.  She did it.  She said she did it.  She explained why.  And she stands by her decision.  I would vote to put someone like this in the White House in a Dakota minute.
Yep, me too!

But then I haven't understood all the pearl-clutching and vapors over putting down an animal that attacks livestock and humans.

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2024, 01:39:58 pm »
Yep, me too!

But then I haven't understood all the pearl-clutching and vapors over putting down an animal that attacks livestock and humans.

That is not at all what puts people off @Smokin Joe surely, she could have found other things to write about in her book.

I have dispatched a few animals myself for assorted reasons but have never felt the need to talk much about it.
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Re: Noem Defends Killing Dog, Suggests Biden’s Dog Should Be Shot
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2024, 01:42:12 pm »
 Noem publisher removing North Korea leader meeting reference from book
by Lauren Sforza - 05/06/24 7:42 AM ET

The publisher of South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem’s (R) upcoming book said it will be removing an anecdote about North Korean leader Kim Jong Un from reprints at her request.

Noem’s book has faced scrutiny in recent days for including the anecdote, which describes her meeting the North Korean leader while traveling during her days in Congress. After multiple reports raised questions about its accuracy, a spokesperson for her office said Kim “was included in a list of world leaders and shouldn’t have been.”

Center Street, the publisher for Noem and other conservative politicians, said on Sunday that it will be removing the passage about Kim from reprints of the book, “No Going Back,” at the request of the governor. It will also remove the passage “as soon as technically possible” from the ebook and audiobook editions.

The publisher referred any further questions to Noem on the issue.

Noem said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday that she addressed the issue in her book as soon as it was brought to her attention but did not directly say whether she met Kim or not.

“You know, as soon as this was brought to my attention, I certainly made some changes and looked at this passage, and I’ve met with many, many world leaders. I’ve traveled around the world. As soon as it was brought to my attention, we went forward and have made some edits,” Noem told host Margaret Brennan when asked if she ever met Kim.

She added that she has met with “many world leaders,” but again did not say whether she met Kim. While Noem had visited China as part of her time on the House Armed Services Committee in 2014, there were no reports of Kim leaving North Korea until 2018, when Noem was campaigning for governor, The Dakota Scout noted.

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2024, 04:45:00 pm »
From the clips that I've seen of it, her appearance on "Face the Nation" yesterday was disastrous. Rarely do you see a politician appear so completely tone-deaf, to the point of burning down their political career.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2024, 07:00:42 pm »
That is not at all what puts people off @Smokin Joe surely, she could have found other things to write about in her book.

I have dispatched a few animals myself for assorted reasons but have never felt the need to talk much about it.


I would still like to see the context. She's right in the act, and I'll reserve judgement on the telling, with a strong lean toward benefit of the doubt.

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Noem should have said the dog committed Crimes Aginst the Climate - breathing, farting, and pooping.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2024, 10:40:57 pm »
From the clips that I've seen of it, her appearance on "Face the Nation" yesterday was disastrous. Rarely do you see a politician appear so completely tone-deaf, to the point of burning down their political career.

How dare she not grovel to the media arm of the Democrat Party!  How dare she not back down and emasculate herself to the beckon call of the MSM.

To hell with "Face the Nation".  Let me know the next time they bring Barack Obama on for an inquisition on eating dogs.  Like that will ever happen.  These people deserve tone-deafness to their emotional manipulations.
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2024, 10:47:07 pm »
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Noem should have said the dog committed Crimes Aginst the Climate - breathing, farting, and pooping.

There ya go ....  :rolling:
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Re: Noem Defends Killing Dog, Suggests Biden’s Dog Should Be Shot
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2024, 11:14:43 pm »
How dare she not grovel to the media arm of the Democrat Party!  How dare she not back down and emasculate herself to the beckon call of the MSM.

To hell with "Face the Nation".  Let me know the next time they bring Barack Obama on for an inquisition on eating dogs.  Like that will ever happen.  These people deserve tone-deafness to their emotional manipulations.

No, sorry, your take on this is wrong.  Go and listen to her interview, she gives tone-deaf talking-point answers, clearly generated by consultants, that failed to address the questions, over and over.  Just totally wooden responses that showed she had no clue what mess she was in, or how to get out of it. And not just about the dog, there was also a question about her meeting with Little Kim that she talked about in the book, which never happened, which she didn't have a good answer for. It wasn't about standing tough in the face of criticism, her responses were canned non-responses that just looked bad.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2024, 04:04:30 pm »
Part of the problem here is that we are dealing with people who think that even though putting the dog down was justified, she should have taken the dog to the vet and have had it put down 'humanely'. (Yes, I actually heard that comment on Fox Business channel). Same result, just sugar coated.


Think about that. Put a dog, fresh from killing livestock and biting humans (yes, you) in your vehicle and take them to the vet, where they will be around other animals, and have the vet give the dog a shot to calm it while they insert the shunt that will carry the lethal injection.

Uh....No. You want to be a hazard to other drivers trying to maintain control of a vicious animal while you are driving? Expose someone else to the risk of controlling the animal while you are driving? expose every owner or critter nearby at the vet's to a vicious animal, not to mention staff?

Or you can take care of the problem without involving others or middlemen, with a minimum of risk to anyone else.

Sorry, but I am disgusted with the poor ability of Americans to sort this problem out and come to the most effective solution with a minimum of additional risk to anyone.

No wonder our country is such a mess.

Yeah, take Ol' Yeller (or Cujo) to the vet...

Some dogs, like some humans, just won't get along and behave, because unlike Ol' Yeller or Cujo, this one wasn't  even sick.
 
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2024, 05:14:15 pm »
I've seen reports that this incident was known about before it appeared it the book, and her political opponents/press were going to spring it on the public when it would do the most damage.

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