General Category > Politics/Government
Johnson: Greene not ‘proving to be’ a serious lawmaker
kevindavis007:
--- Quote from: Smokin Joe on May 01, 2024, 02:21:11 pm ---I'm done with the Left's "Moscow Marge" crap. She isn't from Idaho. A little alliteration may make for 'catchy' derision, but it doesn't make it true.
--- End quote ---
The reason she is called Moscow Marge is that she is more loyal to Russia than America AND OUR ALLIES!
Maj. Bill Martin:
--- Quote from: kevindavis007 on May 01, 2024, 03:31:38 pm ---
The reason she is called Moscow Marge is that she is more loyal to Russia than America AND OUR ALLIES!
--- End quote ---
She certainly seems more upset about aid to Ukraine than about any other issue or spending.
bigheadfred:
--- Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on May 01, 2024, 09:53:24 pm ---She certainly seems more upset about aid to Ukraine than about any other issue or spending.
--- End quote ---
Horseshit. Back in the first week of December last year Johnson said the border was "the hill to die on". He flat out lied and HE is the one that betrayed this country.
kevindavis007:
--- Quote from: bigheadfred on May 01, 2024, 10:05:09 pm ---Horseshit. Back in the first week of December last year Johnson said the border was "the hill to die on". He flat out lied and HE is the one that betrayed this country.
--- End quote ---
Well, maybe there aren't enough votes to pass a border bill that you want! Have you considered that?
Maj. Bill Martin:
--- Quote from: bigheadfred on May 01, 2024, 10:05:09 pm ---Horseshit. Back in the first week of December last year Johnson said the border was "the hill to die on". He flat out lied and HE is the one that betrayed this country.
--- End quote ---
Okay, so let's talk about what Johnson did on the border.
Johnson clearly was engaged in hard bargaining/brinksmanship with Senate Democrats, trying to get them to act on the border legislation, HB 2, that the House had passed last July. The leverage Johnson was trying to use was refusing to pass any other aid unless Senate Democrats also agreed to that border security bill.
The problem turned out to be that the Democrats were willing to let aid to both Ukraine and Israel die rather than past that border bill. And that shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody, because the vast majority of the Democratic party would go apeshit if the Senate passed that border bill, and Biden signed it.
In other words, the border bill was not going to pass no matter what Republicans did, and there was nothing Republicans could do to change that. It's unfortunately what happens when you have such a small majority in the House, and the other party controls both the Senate and the Presidency. You simply can't push through major controversial legislation against a hostile Senate and President. That has never happened.
So that was the reality with which Johnson was faced this spring - that the Republican priority of a border bill was not going to happen. That became even more certain when President Trump himself came out and said that the Republicans should not agree to any border bill unless it provided 100% security. Obviously, Trump said that because he didn't want to lose the issue for the November election. In any case, Trump's own statement killed whatever chance there was for even a compromise border bill.
So at that point, Johnson's threat not to pass any other aid without a border bill had failed. If you want to call that some unbreakable "promise", fine, but I think it was pretty clearly a negotiating tactic by Johnson. He tried a poker bluff, it failed, and the Democrats simply had the much better hand. It happens.
So once Johnson accepted the reality that the border bill was not going to pass, the merits of the other legislation had to be considered on their own. And that's exactly what he did.
So there were only two choices:
1) have no border bill, and pass aid to Ukraine and Israel, or
2) have no border bill, and no aid to Ukraine or Israel either.
At that point, the border is irrelevant. So you either support aid to Ukraine and/or Israel, or you don't. And it's pretty clear that MTG was perfectly happy with Ukraine getting absolutely no military aid whatsoever, regardless of whether a border bill was being passed or not.
She should be honest enough to admit that she doesn't want Ukraine getting any military aid regardless, and quit hiding behind the border as an excuse.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version