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Re: Tulsi Gabbard: Why it's time to leave the Democrat party behind
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2024, 12:18:12 am »


Have you even read her voting record? She isn’t just center left. She’s far left

Has she denounced her left wing views or voting record?   No

So you are saying she might be okay as VP.  Cuz I don't have a problem with her.
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2024, 12:22:16 am »
So you are saying she might be okay as VP.  Cuz I don't have a problem with her.

What I am saying is that her voting record is very much  somebody far to the left. It’s not a personal attack against her. It’s just a fact that’s backed up by her even fairly recent voting record
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2024, 12:41:50 am »


Have you even read her voting record? She isn’t just center left. She’s far left

Has she renounced her left wing views or voting record?   No

This is a bit dated, but she would have to veer way to the right to even be considered a moderate.  She is a  Liberal Libertarian Leaning Progressive.

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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2024, 01:38:11 am »
Do people evaluate a politician’s record when making their decisions or do they just listen to what said politician tells them?

Or is this just simply a case of, if she’s on Trump’s list for VP that’s enough and pay no attention to her far left voting record?

More evidence MAGA is more of a cult of personality and not an ideological movement
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2024, 02:01:04 am »
   It will be Entertaining as h3ll to watch the Trumpers here and elsewhere twist themselves into a pretzel to
defend Tulsi's liberal voting record, just as they did the NY liberal 8 years ago, should he pick her.  I don't think DJT is that stupid, but he's surprised me before with his picks.
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2024, 02:14:21 am »
   It will be Entertaining as h3ll to watch the Trumpers here and elsewhere twist themselves into a pretzel to
defend Tulsi's liberal voting record, just as they did the NY liberal 8 years ago, should he pick her.  I don't think DJT is that stupid, but he's surprised me before with his picks.

They defended Trump's liberal history from assault weapons bans to socialized medicine. It didn't matter to them.

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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2024, 02:17:03 am »
Do people evaluate a politician’s record when making their decisions or do they just listen to what said politician tells them?

Or is this just simply a case of, if she’s on Trump’s list for VP that’s enough and pay no attention to her far left voting record?

More evidence MAGA is more of a cult of personality and not an ideological movement

That's nonsense.

Watch the first 5 minutes of the Tucker Carlson interview.  If you know anything about people in general, it's clear she is speaking from the heart and not to the cameras.

Ronald Reagan was a card-carrying Democrat and by your own standards, because he accepted 70% of what he sought in negotiations, your 'team' would call him a filthy RINO.
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2024, 02:22:26 am »
That's nonsense.

Watch the first 5 minutes of the Tucker Carlson interview.  If you know anything about people in general, it's clear she is speaking from the heart and not to the cameras.

Ronald Reagan was a card-carrying Democrat and by your own standards, because he accepted 70% of what he sought in negotiations, your 'team' would call him a filthy RINO.

Reagan ran and won the governorship of California as a Republican and established his record well before running for President. But you knew that.

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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2024, 09:39:48 am »
That's nonsense.

Watch the first 5 minutes of the Tucker Carlson interview.  If you know anything about people in general, it's clear she is speaking from the heart and not to the cameras.

Ronald Reagan was a card-carrying Democrat and by your own standards, because he accepted 70% of what he sought in negotiations, your 'team' would call him a filthy RINO.

Tulsi Gabbard is not a RINO. Her voting record is on the far left. That’s how I judge. Her record while in Congress. Not what she says on a Tucker Carlson interview


I have no doubt she’s speaking from the heart. So what? That still doesn’t override her far left voting record. Her record matches that of Elizabeth Warren

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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2024, 11:27:59 am »
If you listen to her interviews, she is never asked about her congressional voting record, or her views on climate change, wealth redistribution, abortion, etc. She only talks about wokeism and war because those are the two areas where she aligns with Trump Republicans. My fear is Trump will name her, falsely thinking she will help with suburban women. She won't help. Women do not like good-looking women as political candidates. Trump would be far better off with DeSantis (if he can get him) or Ben Carson.

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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2024, 07:40:11 pm »
They defended Trump's liberal history from assault weapons bans to socialized medicine. It didn't matter to them.

We are told that Trump will take on the left and the Democrats. The fact that a far left Democrat is on his list for potential VP puts that myth to rest.

When Trump is done with politics, win or lose, it’s not the people that attend his rallies that he will associate with. Those rally attendees are the people he supported the Kelo decision over.


As another poster once said, given the choice between standing up to Democrats but getting nothing done vs going alone with them in order to claim”successes” I absolutely believe he will choose the latter.

We’ve seen it already
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2024, 04:45:10 pm »
Nikki Haley is more conservative than Tulsi Gabbard.

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Re: Tulsi Gabbard: Why it's time to leave the Democrat party behind
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2024, 04:51:52 pm »
Nikki Haley is more conservative than Tulsi Gabbard.

And still is the most left leaning (minus Christie) of the entire 2024 GOP POTUS field.  Calling Haley a conservative is laughable.
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2024, 05:39:18 pm »
And still is the most left leaning (minus Christie) of the entire 2024 GOP POTUS field.  Calling Haley a conservative is laughable.

My point is that folks here were outraged at the thought of Nikki Haley as the VP, yet Gabbard is less conservative.

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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2024, 05:40:52 pm »
That's nonsense.

Watch the first 5 minutes of the Tucker Carlson interview.

Okay, I'll listen to the first 5 minutes and see if her "speaking from the heart" includes disavowing her various leftist political positions....

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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2024, 05:56:51 pm »
Okay, I'll listen to the first 5 minutes and see if her "speaking from the heart" includes disavowing her various leftist political positions....

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It was an interview...not a confession with your Salem priest.   :tongue2:
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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2024, 07:11:01 pm »
Geez... @Maj. Bill Martin

It was an interview...not a confession with your Salem priest.   :tongue2:

But it was you who told others to ignore her far left  record on Congress and listen to her for 5 minutes in a Tucker Carlson interview and judge her by that

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« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2024, 07:54:44 pm »
But it was you who told others to ignore her far left  record on Congress and listen to her for 5 minutes in a Tucker Carlson interview and judge her by that

No...I told you that un-Republican...liberal views aren't a deal-killer to me.

History is full of people who changed their belief systems, whether religious or otherwise.
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« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2024, 08:08:12 pm »
Trump would be far better off with DeSantis (if he can get him) or Ben Carson.

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« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2024, 08:13:14 pm »
No...I told you that un-Republican...liberal views aren't a deal-killer to me.

History is full of people who changed their belief systems, whether religious or otherwise.

The thing is she hasn’t changed her views or her belief system. She’s just against foreign wars but she has never renounced  her Elizabeth Warren voting record.

I have a hunch you don’t know her voting record while in Congress. And for me, liberal views and voting record are a deal killer. So you admit that you have no problem with left wing view points and policies on a conservative site?



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« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2024, 08:21:10 pm »
The thing is she hasn’t changed her views or her belief system. She’s just against foreign wars but she has never renounced  her Elizabeth Warren voting record.

I have a hunch you don’t know her voting record while in Congress. And for me, liberal views and voting record are a deal killer. So you admit that you have no problem with left wing view points and policies on a conservative site?

I have no problem with a liberal who renounces her Party and explains herself in plain speak.
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2024, 08:22:31 pm »
No...I told you that un-Republican...liberal views aren't a deal-killer to me.

History is full of people who changed their belief systems, whether religious or otherwise.

That's called a Road to Damascus conversion. And you'd be well served to move cautiously with anyone claiming one. They happen all the time (every election season), but seldom ever really happen.

The record serves more reliably. It is never wrong.

Let Gabbard prove her claim for a few years before summarily believing it.
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« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2024, 08:24:49 pm »
I have no problem with a liberal who renounces her Party and explains herself in plain speak.

Many of us have left the GOP since the end of GWB term but we didn’t part with our conservatism

She may have left the Democrat Party. But she still holds far left views
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« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2024, 08:37:28 pm »
That's called a Road to Damascus conversion. And you'd be well served to move cautiously with anyone claiming one. They happen all the time (every election season), but seldom ever really happen.

The record serves more reliably. It is never wrong.

Let Gabbard prove her claim for a few years before summarily believing it.
You can't be that easy.

I actually would love for Trump to pick her. We would witness such twisting by his supporters that would make the most flexible gymnast envious


The fact that he even considered her is a window into what a second Trump term would look like
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« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2024, 08:46:37 pm »
I hate to say what I believe...but I will.

Most voters are not going to delve into her past. They will look at how hot she is. Sad but true about the voting public.