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Trump has problems that are out of his control in five swing states
mystery-ak:
Trump has problems that are out of his control in five swing states
By
Annabella Rosciglione
April 29, 2024 12:34 pm
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Five key swing states have investigations and criminal charges related to former President Donald Trump’s fake elector scheme and the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
While he is not named in some, the charges are entirely out of Trump’s control, which may hurt him come November if any of these cases result in conviction. In a race between President Joe Biden and Trump that is expected to be close once again, 12% of Trump supporters said they would reconsider voting for the former president if he is convicted in any of his four criminal cases.
In December 2020, groups of fake electors met in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and signed false documents that indicated Trump won the election in their states. Cases in many swing states hinge on these instances.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/2983002/trump-problems-five-swing-states-out-of-his-control/
The_Reader_David:
I'd have thought better of The Washington Examiner than to adopt the left's language of "fake electors".
Hawaii in the 1960 election provided a precedent for having an alternate slate of electors if the outcome of a state was in doubt. No one held the Nixon slate of Hawaii electors was "fake" or had violated any laws. So long as there were live legal challenges (too bad Trump's people idiotically pressed claims of ordinary election fraud, rather than the elections not being held as prescribed by the state legislatures as Constitutionally required as the basis for those challenges, but challenges there were), having an alternate slate of electors was an appropriate action, and serving on one did not constitute fraud.
roamer_1:
--- Quote from: The_Reader_David on April 29, 2024, 10:19:22 pm ---I'd have thought better of The Washington Examiner than to adopt the left's language of "fake electors".
Hawaii in the 1960 election provided a precedent for having an alternate slate of electors if the outcome of a state was in doubt. No one held the Nixon slate of Hawaii electors was "fake" or had violated any laws. So long as there were live legal challenges (too bad Trump's people idiotically pressed claims of ordinary election fraud, rather than the elections not being held as prescribed by the state legislatures as Constitutionally required as the basis for those challenges, but challenges there were), having an alternate slate of electors was an appropriate action, and serving on one did not constitute fraud.
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Were those electors approved by the legislature en-toto? No.
That is where the authority of electors resides.
banddag:
Neither Trump or Biden will be nominated. Majority of the country want neither. New, fresh candidates will be selected at each convention.
Democrats will pick a moderate governor from a red state such as Beshear or Laura Kelly from Kansas who will run as Bill Clinton 2 .0 and be strong on crime and the border . Democrats elites know they cannot pick a far lefty. The country is swinging back to the middle
Not sure about the Republicans. ..but very likely a moderate woman to win back the women's vote either a governor or a strong AG from a red state. Trump/Republican party is hemorrhaging the women vote and he cannot win without their support.
The country is in the middle politically and most people do not want either the far left or the far right in power. And are tired of geriatric retreads.
Wingnut:
--- Quote from: banddag on April 29, 2024, 11:24:25 pm ---Neither Trump or Biden will be nominated. Majority of the country want neither. New, fresh candidates will be selected at each convention.
--- End quote ---
Actually, our new TBR troll, that is only possible if 2 things happen. The CIA kills Trump and Joe Dies in a slip and fall and he can't get up.
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