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[Hoodat]

Good point.  Bottom line is he FAILED. I have no reason to believe that the outcome will be any different his second go around, I see things as being even worse.

I don't even fault him for failing here considering his Democrat tendencies.  Heck, in 2015 he campaigned in support of amnesty, allowing those already here illegally to jump to the front of the line.  Trump was never going to deport anyone, and certainly wasn't going to build a wall across our Southern border.  No, my anger is directed at his sycophants who continue to push the same bullshit again and again.  The ones who continue to shout "Drain the Swamp" even though Trump is the best friend the Swamp ever had.  He gave them everything.  Every single thing they wanted.  But we knew this about Trump early on.  Many like myself even got zotted from TOS for pointing this out.  Yet here we are over eight years later, and Trump sycophants are still pushing the exact same bullshit while blaming everyone else under the sun for Trump's failures.

Bottom line, Trump didn't get it done.  And it isn't the Democrats' fault.  Trump is the one in charge.  Trump controls the money given to him.  The buck stops with Trump.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Don't you find it interesting how Biden is able to divert DoD money to support DEI and other LBGTQ+WXYZ bull crap, but Trump wasn't able to do so with a real life protect-America project of building a wall?  The part about not being given the money is no excuse.  Trump was able to spend $8 trillion that we didn't have during his term.  He could have found a hundred different ways to fund that wall.  He just simply didn't do it.  Because maybe that might have upset Democrats.

Well, he kinda/sorta did.  Remember the "emergency" DoD funding he used to build the parts of the Wall that did get built?  He just waited too long to get started because of that stupid "Mexico will pay for it" pledge.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump WAS elected on his campaign and promise of securing the border and building the wall.  He FAILED.  The majority of the wall that was erected under him was mostly repairing existing wall that was built years ago.

Are you seriously trying to compare this built in 2006:



With this:????

Next.

I'm not sure what you're looking for with "next" @libertybele  ---- But, I'm kinda hoping ""next" includes you stop telling folks how worried you are about illegal immigration because your posts strongly suggest you don't understand the history of the battle or your concern is disingenuous.

[corbe]

   In spite of his making it the cornerstone of his 16 election, WE are 10X worse now in spite of him being in charge half of that time.   The Trumpers are wrong on two major accounts; he is just a mediocre businessman (6 bankruptcies) and is a full blown politician.

[libertybele]

Are you seriously trying to compare this built in 2006:



With this:????




I'm not sure what you're looking for with "next" @libertybele  ---- But, I'm kinda hoping ""next" includes you stop telling folks how worried you are about illegal immigration because you're posts strongly suggest you don't understand the history of the battle or your concern is disingenuous.

Your posts strongly suggest that you are delusional and wear orange colored glasses....I won't go any further.

I am well aware of the history.  Disingenuous? I have a few kind words for you, but I respect this forum and the mods.

[DB]

Your posts strongly suggest that you are delusional and wear orange colored glasses....I won't go any further.

I am well aware of the history.  Disingenuous? I have a few kind words for you, but I respect this forum and the mods.

Cruz in 2011:


https://youtu.be/T0h3Mu8BbjM

[roamer_1]

Trump was a “meh” president.

No, Tumpy was an historically awful president. On the record.

[DCPatriot]

No, Tumpy was an historically awful president. On the record.

Come on, man!

Don't make me come out there and shoot the tires off your house!   

[roamer_1]

I don't even fault him for failing here considering his Democrat tendencies.  Heck, in 2015 he campaigned in support of amnesty, allowing those already here illegally to jump to the front of the line.  Trump was never going to deport anyone, and certainly wasn't going to build a wall across our Southern border.  No, my anger is directed at his sycophants who continue to push the same bullshit again and again.  The ones who continue to shout "Drain the Swamp" even though Trump is the best friend the Swamp ever had.  He gave them everything.  Every single thing they wanted.  But we knew this about Trump early on.  Many like myself even got zotted from TOS for pointing this out.  Yet here we are over eight years later, and Trump sycophants are still pushing the exact same bullshit while blaming everyone else under the sun for Trump's failures.

Bottom line, Trump didn't get it done.  And it isn't the Democrats' fault.  Trump is the one in charge.  Trump controls the money given to him.  The buck stops with Trump.

That's right. Reposted for emphasis.

[corbe]

Come on, man!

Don't make me come out there and shoot the tires off your house!   

 

[roamer_1]

Come on, man!

Don't make me come out there and shoot the tires off your house!   

He was. Historic damage to fiscal conservatism. Historic damage to libertarianism.

Worse than anyone, ever.

You don't reward that shitty record with another term, I don't care what the price.

Hell no.

[libertybele]

Come on, man!

Don't make me come out there and shoot the tires off your house!   

That brings to mind this song ....  (sorry folks)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1pFTSQfmhU

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Come on, man!

Don't make me come out there and shoot the tires off your house!   

 

That is a great line. 

[DCPatriot]

That is a great line.

@Maj. Bill Martin   @corbe  @libertybele   @roamer_1

Must confess... waited more than a couple of days to use it on him.  All in good fun!!   

[libertybele]

@Maj. Bill Martin   @corbe  @libertybele   @roamer_1

Must confess... waited more than a couple of days to use it on him.  All in good fun!!   

 

[libertybele]

He was. Historic damage to fiscal conservatism. Historic damage to libertarianism.

Worse than anyone, ever.

You don't reward that shitty record with another term, I don't care what the price.

Hell no.

Trump is not a fiscal conservative that is for certain, but that is not the sole reason that I won't be voting for him.

[roamer_1]

Trump is not a fiscal conservative that is for certain, but that is not the sole reason that I won't be voting for him.

I've said before, the money is just a way of keeping score. It is not technically fiscal conservatism that is primary for me either. It is the liberty lost, for which fiscal matters are an indicator.

Poor character has been foremost all the way along. I didn't like him for that since Reagan's day, and that has been proven right over and over again. And it will be proven sommore, without a single doubt.

That should have been enough for everyone. But here we are.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Are you seriously trying to compare this built in 2006:



With this:????

This is a fair point.

A lot of the fence work done under the Trump Administration that was dismissed because it wasn't "new" fencing was actually taking more or less worthless stuff and massively upgrading it into a useful barrier.  Those images are accurate.

[libertybele]

This is a fair point.

A lot of the fence work done under the Trump Administration that was dismissed because it wasn't "new" fencing was actually taking more or less worthless stuff and massively upgrading it into a useful barrier.  Those images are accurate.

That "worthless stuff" was put up years ago and provided a barrier at the time, and needed replacing, but the fact still remains that the wall was not completed.

[roamer_1]

This is a fair point.

A lot of the fence work done under the Trump Administration that was dismissed because it wasn't "new" fencing was actually taking more or less worthless stuff and massively upgrading it into a useful barrier.  Those images are accurate.

'useful barrier' is not. Give me a pickup and a cutting torch and I will be through that in minutes.

[DB]

Land mines...

[bigheadfred]

Land mines...

Ham bush

[GtHawk]

This is a fair point.

A lot of the fence work done under the Trump Administration that was dismissed because it wasn't "new" fencing was actually taking more or less worthless stuff and massively upgrading it into a useful barrier.  Those images are accurate.

Bait and switch Bull excrement from the Orange One, instead of the beautiful huuuge concrete wall he promised while campaigning, we got a "wall" that the cartels and illegals easily rammed through with vehicle, cut through with torches, yes climbed over and tunneled under, because the great and powerful deal maker couldn't get shiite done with a full majority for two years. It doesn't matter how much lipstick gets troweled on that pig...it's still a PIG.

[GtHawk]

'useful barrier' is not. Give me a pickup and a cutting torch and I will be through that in minutes.

Which is exactly what the cartels, coyotes and run of the mill illegals did.

[roamer_1]

Which is exactly what the cartels, coyotes and run of the mill illegals did.

I'm sure that's. true. It's. all a smoke show. If you want proof, try walking across the Canadian border. Even in the winter.

Tumpy didn't change that southern border a whit.