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Re: Report: Trump and DeSantis Meet in Miami, Talk Fundraising
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2024, 08:20:52 pm »
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« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2024, 08:42:11 pm »
Get some new material --- I've already answered you on this   @Hoodat

You answered with a strawman that had zero connection to the question - a strawman based on a false premise, which was shown to you clearly in my reply:

You're living in a fantasy bubble @Hoodat  ----- and you're starting to believe the outcome of the primary somehow proves RDS had more support than Donald Trump.

Uh, no.  There is nothing I have posted that even remotely suggests this.  You made it up.  It is solely your invention.


Correcting this group think with the actual outcome is not "bashing" Ron DeSantis ---- it's bashing a disturbing level of near insanity.

RDS lost.  He knows he lost.  His donors know he lost. ---- Believe it, embrace it and move on.

Hysterical.  DeSantis supporters moved on long ago.  It's you that still feels compelled to continue taking pot shots at him long after he's exited the race.  Maybe you are the one who should move on.  Ever consider that?


My responses to you stand.  Every single one of them.
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« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2024, 08:46:58 pm »
On the contrary, it was his supporters that were in a coma. And even worse, some of the stuff he’s proposing now.



His so-called fantastic economy, for example,  wasn’t as fantastic as his supporters like to pretend. It was good. But it wasn’t “historic”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gdp-growth-under-trump-compares-121008953.html

In his first four years in office, Trump has had by far the lowest average U.S. GDP growth rate of any of the last seven U.S. presidents.

Overall, U.S. GDP growth was highest under Clinton and Reagan in this group. GDP growth was lowest under Trump and Obama.






And(pre pandemic)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/half-million-fewer-jobs-revisions-hit-trump-economy-n1046156

But recent headlines and new sets of data are raising questions about exactly where the economy is heading as 2020 approaches. Increasingly it looks like the president’s stabilizer is headed for some bumpy times.

To start with, it appears some of the nation’s good economic times have not been as good as we thought they were.


Now he’s proposing more policies that many agree inflationary but the debate is by how much. From Larry Summers, who also accurately predicted Bidenflation would not be transitory

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4601150-summers-trump-term-inflationary-spiral/amp/
Summers explained that Trump’s populist economic policy could also infringe on the Federal Reserve’s independence, risking higher inflation and leading to high spending.

“Look, there’s a model for populism. It’s the way that the way most countries in Latin America have been run most of the time since the Second World War,” he said. “And to put it mildly, it hasn’t been conspicuously economically successful.”

He warned Trump’s policies could lead to hyperinflation, comparing the situation to 1950s Argentina — an economic collapse that led to social unrest.


Although watching the MSNBC commenters having a meltdown on election night should Trump win  would be entertaining, the short term rush would quickly wear off should  Trump get his way economically. Then that would ensure that a Democrat would get elected in 2028 and that person could get a potential eight years. I maintained at the time that if the housing market didn’t crash and take the economy with it at the time it did, Obama wouldn’t have been elected

Choosing not to vote for anyone at the top of the ticket this year isn’t an emotional exercise for some of us. There are some real red flags when it comes to Trump. The argument can’t simply be “Biden sucks” because we all know that.

In order for me to even remotely reconsider, Trump would have to change course and adopt a policy of economic libertarianism combined with fiscal conservatism. So far, I see neither


So far, not one Trumper has disputed any of these points or links happy77

Further evidence of how bad our choices are this year. I, like Larry Summers, agree that a second Trump term will be similar to any South American populist


MAGA reminds me a lot of the socialists. Socialist believe that they can dodge the laws of economics if the right people run it
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Re: Report: Trump and DeSantis Meet in Miami, Talk Fundraising
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2024, 08:47:24 pm »
And for the record, I really don't give a damn that you dislike DeSantis.  In fact, I expect it considering the level of insecurity you operate under.  I just get sick of the denials, the lies, the bullshit, and other offerings of irrationality.  Keep hating us Conservatives all you want.  But don't act all hurt when we choose not to grovel at the feet of Trump after hearing yet another one of your insults or false narratives.
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Re: Report: Trump and DeSantis Meet in Miami, Talk Fundraising
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2024, 08:50:16 pm »

So far, not one Trumper has disputed any of these points or links happy77

Further evidence of how bad our choices are this year. I, like Larry Summers, agree that a second Trump term will be similar to any South American populist


MAGA reminds me a lot of the socialists. Socialist believe that they can dodge the laws of economics if the right people run it

In short, just another flavor of big government... And big government is the problem. It consumes our freedom and our prosperity.

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« Reply #131 on: May 04, 2024, 08:50:55 pm »
And for the record, I really don't give a damn that you dislike DeSantis.  In fact, I expect it considering the level of insecurity you operate under.  I just get sick of the denials, the lies, the bullshit, and other offerings of irrationality.  Keep hating us Conservatives all you want.  But don't act all hurt when we choose not to grovel at the feet of Trump after hearing yet another one of your insults or false narratives.

We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS because their savior Ted Cruz and now Ron DeSantis were rejected.
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« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2024, 08:51:46 pm »
In short, just another flavor of big government... And big government is the problem. It consumes our freedom and our prosperity.

Government has grown to unprecedented levels in the last roughly 20 years and we are in an Unsustainable debt spiral

Are the American people wealthier and more free  as a result?
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« Reply #133 on: May 04, 2024, 08:52:23 pm »
In short, just another flavor of big government... And big government is the problem. It consumes our freedom and our prosperity.

EVERY_TIME.

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« Reply #134 on: May 04, 2024, 08:53:08 pm »
We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS because their savior Ted Cruz and now Ron DeSantis were rejected.

No he was not.

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« Reply #135 on: May 04, 2024, 08:55:20 pm »
We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS because their savior Ted Cruz and now Ron DeSantis were rejected.

I don't recogmize Donald Trump as a great POTUS because he wasn't a great POTUS.  Cruz and DeSantis have nothing to do with it.

(See:  $8 trillion in new debt)
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Re: Report: Trump and DeSantis Meet in Miami, Talk Fundraising
« Reply #136 on: May 04, 2024, 08:55:45 pm »
His so-called fantastic economy, for example,  wasn’t as fantastic as his supporters like to pretend. It was good. But it wasn’t “historic”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gdp-growth-under-trump-compares-121008953.html

In his first four years in office, Trump has had by far the lowest average U.S. GDP growth rate of any of the last seven U.S. presidents.

Overall, U.S. GDP growth was highest under Clinton and Reagan in this group. GDP growth was lowest under Trump and Obama.

Oh, you refer to the guy always telling us hisThis and That was the BEST, the greatest, and most historic?  Ever, EVER?

What a hyperbolic blow-hard.
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« Reply #137 on: May 04, 2024, 08:59:02 pm »
Oh, you refer to the guy always telling us hisThis and That was the BEST, the greatest, and most historic?  Ever, EVER?

What a hyperbolic blow-hard.

They don’t believe that Trump’s trillion dollar Covid stimulus led to inflation

Trump, like Bernie Sanders, and AOC, and his supporters believe in Modern Monetary Theory


His economy was not as great as a supporters like to believe and  data backs it up. There were bright spots to be sure. But it’s success was overstated by his supporters


If you noticed, his supporters don’t dispute the data. They just ignore it or blame everybody else


But the strength and resilience of the Trump economy was overstated by him and his supporters

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« Reply #138 on: May 04, 2024, 10:03:17 pm »
We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS

For the 10th thousandth time,,,,,,,  DJT increased the deficit quicker and more severely (actual and inflation adjusted) than any POTUS in U.S. history to that point.

If you call that being a "Great POTUS", I'd hate to see a bad one. 
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« Reply #139 on: May 04, 2024, 10:30:40 pm »
For the 10th thousandth time,,,,,,,  DJT increased the deficit quicker and more severely (actual and inflation adjusted) than any POTUS in U.S. history to that point.

If you call that being a "Great POTUS", I'd hate to see a bad one.

I think many of the supporters just see the debt going up and think that’s trivial. It’s not. The debt is rising faster than GDP and Donald Trump was a contributor to that

And it’s not just his previous four years. What he’s proposing now is scarier. He wants to pressure the federal reserve to lower interest rates. He wants even more tariffs on top of the ones that he enacted his first round. He wants to weaken the dollar yet not that long ago, he said a strong dollar was good for the country. He wants more spending.

I don’t think his supporters are aware of any of this. Or worse, they don’t care. They’ve convinced themselves that their movement is a movement to save the country and nothing will stand in the way of that delusion. It’s comical. But they believe it with all their heart

You have some that would be OK with the idea of Tulsi Gabbard being his vice president. That should tell you a lot right there

It’s too bad that Ron DeSantis didn’t get any traction. At the very least, it would be interesting to hear his position on these issues and what his plan would be to correct the trajectory we are on and how his policies are different from those of either Trump or Biden
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« Reply #140 on: May 04, 2024, 10:38:15 pm »
You have some that would be OK with the idea of Tulsi Gabbard being his vice president. That should tell you a lot right there

Trump could pick Bernie Sanders to be his VP, and the next day his sycophants would be busy convincing the rest of us what a genius move that was.
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« Reply #141 on: May 04, 2024, 10:42:19 pm »
We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS because their savior Ted Cruz and now Ron DeSantis were rejected.

You are disillusioned.  1) Trump did NOT make a GREAT president and 2) I don't classify neither Ted or Ron as saviors, but conservatives that would have made GREAT presidents.
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« Reply #142 on: May 05, 2024, 03:24:07 pm »
We don't "hate" Conservatives.

We hate pompous asses who don't recognize Donald Trump was a great POTUS because their savior Ted Cruz and now Ron DeSantis were rejected.

I recognized Trump wasn't a great POTUS before DeSantis even ran.

Primary voters choosing to nominate Trump rather than DeSantis has nothing to do with whether or not we approve of Trump's actions and the direction in which he wants to take the country.   They are unrelated issues.

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   I agree @LMAO but Trump is selling re-runs.  He campaigned on this $hit 8 years ago and he was in charge half that time.  Obviously, I can't give him the benefit of the doubt here.

The border is right where Trump's hyperbole bit him in the ass.

He campaigned on that ridiculous claim that Mexico would pay for the border wall and the result of that was that he couldn't/didn't push hard for border money when elected because that would have been contradicting his stupid promise.

As a result, he waited too long to make that push, and by the time he got around to it, the Democrats controlled the House and wouldn't give him the money.


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« Reply #144 on: May 05, 2024, 05:12:03 pm »
The border is right where Trump's hyperbole bit him in the ass.

He campaigned on that ridiculous claim that Mexico would pay for the border wall and the result of that was that he couldn't/didn't push hard for border money when elected because that would have been contradicting his stupid promise.

As a result, he waited too long to make that push, and by the time he got around to it, the Democrats controlled the House and wouldn't give him the money.

Agreed.  Trump won his campaign on securing the border and building the wall.  He failed.  He also failed to get the $$ needed while he had a decent majority in both Houses. 

Now ... he's vowing to do this again.  So...what is he going to do differently that will allow him to secure the border and build the wall? 

He also is campaigning on draining the swamp (retribution), he didn't accomplish that in his first administration, how is he going to accomplish that if he's re-elected?

His failed policies are many.  Why would his second term be any different?

The obvious is not in his favor; his age and facing 90+ felonies.

His supporters really need to get a grip on reality.

More than anything conservatives and the GOP are left with no path forward right now.  The one conservative that may have led us to victory he smeared.
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« Reply #145 on: May 05, 2024, 07:58:54 pm »
The border is right where Trump's hyperbole bit him in the ass.

He campaigned on that ridiculous claim that Mexico would pay for the border wall and the result of that was that he couldn't/didn't push hard for border money when elected because that would have been contradicting his stupid promise.

As a result, he waited too long to make that push, and by the time he got around to it, the Democrats controlled the House and wouldn't give him the money.

Agreed.  Trump won his campaign on securing the border and building the wall.  He failed.  He also failed to get the $$ needed while he had a decent majority in both Houses.   

For anyone reading this nonsense pointing-up  and remember what actually was accomplished by President Trump against formidable and bipartisan opposition,  I repost this information to assure you that you are not the crazy one.

Wall Funding:

Stopping illegal immigration was never an issue for Congress --- and it *still* isn't .  Prior to Trump, the issue on the table was how comprehensive amnesty would be.  (Remember the Gang of Eight?). 

Trump's requests for funding were denied by Congress from the start;  even when run by "Republicans".

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Congress passes $1.3 trillion spending bill that includes some border wall funding
Mar 22, 2018

The bill will boost spending on various projects, including infrastructure and a border wall. The $1.6 billion allocated for a wall fell far short of the Trump administration's demands, and Democrats were able to exact significant restrictions on the wall's construction, including avoiding building it in a wildlife preserve and blocking any construction of the barrier as a solid concrete wall.

The $1.3 trillion measure, which lawmakers scrambled to pass ahead of a government shutdown deadline Friday night, was on its way to President Donald Trump after the U.S. Senate passed it late Thursday on a vote of 65-32. The new spending restores funding on many of the austerity measures Republicans implemented since taking over the U.S. House in 2011. 

Earlier Thursday, the House passed the bill on a vote of 256-167. Most Texas Republicans fell in line with their *leadership* on the bill, but a handful from the conservative wing of the party voted against it: U.S. Reps. Brian Babin of Woodville, Joe Barton of Ennis, Blake Farenthold of Corpus Christi, Louie Gohmert of Tyler, Ted Poe of Humble and John Ratcliffe of Heath.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/03/22/us-house-passes-13-trillion-spending-bill-includes-some-border-wall-fu/

The next funding reductions/denials would be even easier for Congress, after Ryan's strategy to hand the Speaker's gavel to Pelosi was successful.

Trump found funding through "creative budget allocations" --- whose implementation were delayed by multiple court challenges. The same type of Court challenges would be used frequently to delay building, usually to protect butterflies, snakes and lizards.

Yet, Trump still managed to fund and build almost 500 miles of wall.

Political Agreements

* Trump ended Catch-and-Release, which meant that instead of illegals getting released into the United States pending future hearings never to be seen again, they were detained pending removal, and then ultimately returned to their home countries

* Trump entered into three asylum cooperation agreements with Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala to stop asylum fraud and resettle illegal migrants in third-party nations pending their asylum applications.  (Illegals passing through these countries on their way to the US would remain there or be sent back there, if they made it through)

* Trump entered into a partnership with Mexico, referred to as the “Migrant Protection Protocols,” to safely return asylum-seekers to Mexico while awaiting hearings in the United States (Remain in Mexico) ---- The President would subsequently "convince" Mexico to put troops on its Southern border --- at their expense --- to reduce the flow of illegals passing through Mexico on their way to the US.

Here's a snapshot of what --- against Satan's headwinds --- Trump accomplished:



Trump, in his first term, led a quantum leap in securing our Southern border.  It could be summed up in three words:  "Keep them out". 

His second term will be summed up with:  "Keep and get them out".  Trump will again -- and quickly -- secure our Southern borderdo  AND focus on removing the invaders welcomed by the Biden regime. 

I simply do not understand how anyone --- anyone --- concerned about securing our sovereignty would not crawl over broken glass to vote for Donald Trump in November.

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« Reply #146 on: May 05, 2024, 08:09:45 pm »
I recognized Trump wasn't a great POTUS before DeSantis even ran.

Primary voters choosing to nominate Trump rather than DeSantis has nothing to do with whether or not we approve of Trump's actions and the direction in which he wants to take the country.   They are unrelated issues.

Trump was a “meh” president. We did become a net exporter of oil for the first time in several decades under his watch that, btw, is continuing today

But his economy was not that much different from BHO’s. Employment was up but GDP wasn’t that impressive

He and his supporters would have you believe that he inherited an economy in an economic Depression and took us to historic economic mastery in his short time. lol…..no

In fact, the economy was showing signs of trouble pre pandemic

What’s worse is many of the ideas he’s floating now.
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« Reply #147 on: May 05, 2024, 08:15:34 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia back in 2006 the Secure Fence Act was indeed passed by both Houses and signed into law.  Funding obviously has been the problem.

So, Trump isn't the first candidate to come up with the idea of needing to secure the border and mass deportation.  Cruz addressed that long before Trump.

Trump WAS elected on his campaign and promise of securing the border and building the wall.  He FAILED.  The majority of the wall that was erected under him was mostly repairing existing wall that was built years ago.

You can throw all kinds of stats and charts around, but plain and simple, Trump did NOT complete nor erect the wall.  The wall was started long before he took office.  I used to donate to a group that had cameras on the progress of the wall, and for $$ you could have a portion of the wall built and an American flag put in place.  No the wall wasn't completed, but the point is, Trump is NOT the first one to come up with building a wall, nor securing the border.

Groups such as Numbers USA and Federation for American Immigration Reform have been working on this for years.

It has been a political boomerang between the party for years. 

Trump waited till the last minute to ask for funding.  Of course we all know that the new DEM Congress was just about to be sworn in when he asked.  He FAILED.

Stop trying to convince us that building the wall was his idea.  It was started long before; so much so, that the majority of the $$ that he did get was used was to replace or reinforce wall that was already there.

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« Reply #148 on: May 05, 2024, 08:27:57 pm »
As a result, he waited too long to make that push, and by the time he got around to it, the Democrats controlled the House and wouldn't give him the money.

Don't you find it interesting how Biden is able to divert DoD money to support DEI and other LBGTQ+WXYZ bull crap, but Trump wasn't able to do so with a real life protect-America project of building a wall?  The part about not being given the money is no excuse.  Trump was able to spend $8 trillion that we didn't have during his term.  He could have found a hundred different ways to fund that wall.  He just simply didn't do it.  Because maybe that might have upset Democrats.
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Re: Report: Trump and DeSantis Meet in Miami, Talk Fundraising
« Reply #149 on: May 05, 2024, 08:30:52 pm »
Don't you find it interesting how Biden is able to divert DoD money to support DEI and other LBGTQ+WXYZ bull crap, but Trump wasn't able to do so with a real life protect-America project of building a wall?  The part about not being given the money is no excuse.  Trump was able to spend $8 trillion that we didn't have during his term.  He could have found a hundred different ways to fund that wall.  He just simply didn't do it.  Because maybe that might have upset Democrats.

Good point.  Bottom line is he FAILED. I have no reason to believe that the outcome will be any different his second go around, I see things as being even worse. 
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.