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DCPatriot:

--- Quote from: catfish1957 on April 19, 2024, 05:22:00 am ---Everything anyone needs to know about militant Muzzies can be summed up on 11 Sept 2001. 

None can be trusted or given an inch. And the half measures being practiced by Bibi of late is a bad strategy.    They are like roaches...  Finish them off!!!!

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Disagree my FRiend.  Abiding by the West's ridiculous demands in proportionate warfare Bibi continues to allow the world to see what kind of enemy Israel is dealing with.

Maj. Bill Martin:

--- Quote from: Hoodat on April 19, 2024, 12:54:06 am ---@Maj. Bill Martin

To be fair, she did earlier call for the West Bank to be re-annexed by Jordan, and for the Egyptian Army to re-occupy Gaza.  And also for the Golan Heights to be given back to Syria so that Hezbollah could rain artillery shells onto Israeli civilians from the high ground.

This is her solution to bring 'peace' to the Jews.  Not really anything there for Palestinians though.

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@Hoodat

I didn't see that in this thread so I'll address it now. But basically this falls under the category of already tried and failed.

First, when Egypt had Gaza, and Jordan had the West Bank, and Syria had the Golan Heights, the result was them announcing a war of extermination against Israel in 1967.  So obviously, that combination of circumstances didn't work the first time.

But overlooking that, maybe she could argue that those countries wouldn't go to war against Israel now if those lands were returned to them. The problem with that is that Egypt wants nothing to do with Gaza, and Jordan wants nothing to do with the West Bank. And why would they? Both regions are poort, and are hot beds of Islamic fundamentalism and potential terrorism. Islamic fundamentalists are fans of neither the Egyptian nor Jordanian governments.  Both have flatly rejected absorbing those two regions. So that part of a peace plan never even gets off the ground.

The second problem is, as you note, the Palestinians essentially get nothing out of this. Even if we were to ignore reality and assume that Egypt and Jordan would take over those lands, all that means is the Palestinians would exchange one ruler for another, and not one of their own choosing.  Both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank have made it very clear that they do not want to be part of either Jordan or Egypt

In other words, returning Gaza to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan is a complete non-starter no matter how you look at it.

Sighlass:
Why did Abraham have to sleep with Hagar ? Sarai/Sarah why did you throw Hagar at Abraham ? Abraham why didn't you trust the promise given you ?

Gotta rank up there with Adam and Eve... mistakes us foolish humans make. Would I have done better, probable not.

AllThatJazzZ:

--- Quote from: DCPatriot on April 19, 2024, 05:34:23 am ---Disagree my FRiend.  Abiding by the West's ridiculous demands in proportionate warfare Bibi continues to allow the world to see what kind of enemy Israel is dealing with.

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@DCPatriot

You act like we're dealing with a sane, sensible world. The world is frothing at the mouth toward Israel. They're suffering from IDS, and there's no cure.

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