Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC

[Hoodat]

Are there any statutory limits on how many times you can try a case with a hung juries?

No.  But then there's also no statute for trying this case in the first place.

[libertybele]

Raheem.
@RaheemKassam

If the prosecution thought their case was going well, they wouldn’t be wasting so much time and energy on this stuff:



9:50 AM · May 6, 2024

Gee, I don't know - they're just looking for a reason to cuff him and throw him in jail.  Trump is foolish to think otherwise.

[DCPatriot]

The Secret Service detail won't have any part of this idea...putting Pres. Trump in jail/detention.

Judge has a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus Christ.

[Hoodat]

I wonder what will happen if it's a hung Jury?

A hung jury is a win for Trump.  By the time they get around to setting up a new trial, Trump will already be in the White House, and the Supreme Court will toss it.

[Hoodat]

The Secret Service detail won't have any part of this idea...putting Pres. Trump in jail/detention.

Yeah, thinking the same thing.  Their job is to protect the President.  And that will prove impossible inside a jail.  I expect a real showdown with guns drawn -  Secret Service v. New York sheriffs.

Which Supreme Court Justice covers New York?

[mystery-ak]

IIRC there was an articled not too long ago about meetings the SS had re something like this happened..I think it dealt mainly with Trump going to prison..

[DB]

I would think that a new jury would be picked, and they'd retry the case? I doubt that the judge would dismiss the case -- which would be the best case scenario.

I believe it is the prosecutor's option to retry or not, not the judge's. And this prosecutor will retry.

[Cyber Liberty]

Are there any statutory limits on how many times you can try a case with a hung juries?

If not, they'd love to try this case over and over killing all the time before the election.

I think he's doing fine with campaigning right now.  The press is doing their best to make it unnecessary, just like in '16.

[Cyber Liberty]

My guess:  they will try for another trial.

This is certain.

[Cyber Liberty]

The Secret Service detail won't have any part of this idea...putting Pres. Trump in jail/detention.

Judge has a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus Christ.

That is correct.  I am sure they won't tolerate anything like a jail.  Maybe ankle monitor?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Gee, I don't know - they're just looking for a reason to cuff him and throw him in jail.  Trump is foolish to think otherwise.

I don't think Trump thinks otherwise..,

[Right_in_Virginia]

This is certain.

I'm not sure another trial would be certain....

[Wingnut]

That is correct.  I am sure they won't tolerate anything like a jail.  Maybe ankle monitor?

 with Home confinement. 

LOL.  Like that would work.

[Cyber Liberty]

with Home confinement. 

LOL.  Like that would work.

It would make me laff.

[catfish1957]

I don't think Trump thinks otherwise..,

I think Trump's challenge to take jail for the sake of the constitution, was a plus for him today.

[libertybele]

I think Trump's challenge to take jail for the sake of the constitution, was a plus for him today.

This circus of a trial shouldn't even be happening.  I continue to be concerned about the stress that this is putting on him and his family; especially Barron and Melania.

[catfish1957]

This circus of a trial shouldn't even be happening.  I continue to be concerned about the stress that this is putting on him and his family; especially Barron and Melania.

After he wins, I hope he cuts them all off at the knees.  I hope DJT takes vindictive to new levels.

[deb]

This circus of a trial shouldn't even be happening.  I continue to be concerned about the stress that this is putting on him and his family; especially Barron and Melania.

It has to be incredibly stressful for him. We pray for his health.

[mystery-ak]

Day 13

Stormy Daniels expected to appear at Trump's 'hush money' trial Tuesday


Porn star Stormy Daniels is expected to take the stand at former President Donald Trump’s “hush money” trial in New York today, the Associated Press reports.

[mystery-ak]

22 minutes ago
Trump posted on Truth Social about next witness this morning — then deleted it
By Kaydi Pelletier

Donald Trump posted on Truth social about an hour and a half ago that he heard who the next witness would be, and that his lawyers had no time to prepare.

The former president is under a court gag order that prohibits him from commenting about the jury or witnesses in the trial. The judge has found him in violation of the order 10 times, and has fined Trump $10,000 as well as threatened the defendant with jail time "as a last resort."

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1787815447917736443

[mystery-ak]

3 minutes ago
Trump cites reports from liberal media outlets as even those say DA has no case
By Kaydi Pelletier

Wearing a navy suit and gold tie this morning, Trump spoke to reporters in the court hallway first commenting on canceled college graduations at Columbia and elsewhere, saying he's "never seen anything like this."

He went on to defend the payments to his former "fixer" lawyer, Michael Cohen, that are at the crux of the case.

"The legal expense that we paid was put down as legal expense," he said. "Everyone's saying 'Oh geez, that's the fraud.'

"The other thing: this was approved by all agencies, there's been nothing hidden at all."

Trump also claimed that "some of the statements made about this witch hunt" — even by left-leaning media outlets like "fake news CNN," "Good Morning America" and NBC's "Today" are saying the prosecution "has no case."

"With all that's going on, they have no case," Trump said. "Virtually everyone that I've seen has said there's no case.

"This all comes out of the White House and crooked Joe Biden.

"It happens in third world countries. It's never happened in this country."

[mystery-ak]

US Secret Service in discussions over how to handle potential Trump jail time

The U.S. Secret Service is holding internal discussions regarding former President Trump potentially going to jail, Fox News has learned.

Those conversations picked up Monday after Judge Juan Merchan floated the possibility of sending Trump to jail if he makes further violations against Merchan's gag order in the New York v. Trump case.

The Secret Service declined to comment on the discussions.

Merchan threatened Trump with jail time on Monday after finding that he violated the judge's gag order for a 10th time, resulting in a total fine of $10,000. Merchan said the fines clearly were not having the desired effect, so he warned that further violations could result in incarceration.

Merchan's gag order, imposed April 1, prohibits Trump from speaking publicly about witnesses in the case, such as pornography actress Stormy Daniels and former lawyer Michael Cohen.

Fox News' David Spunt contributed to this report
Posted by Anders Hagstrom

[mystery-ak]

a minute ago
Stormy Daniels to describe alleged sexual encounter with Trump at trial today

Porn star Stormy Daniels will describe her alleged sexual encounter with Donald Trump today at his trial, a prosecutor just said now.

"The general details of what occurred, including the sex act, are a significant part of the story and are very important for us,” prosecutor Susan Hoffinger said.

“The details of the encounter are important,” Hoffinger added. “It’s important for us to establish her credibility.”

But the prosecutor noted there will be some limits to Daniels’ testimony.

“In terms of the sexual act, it will be very basic,” she told the court. “It will not involve descriptions of genitalia.”

[mystery-ak]

4 minutes ago
Penguin Random House bigwig testifying at Trump trial

There's a new witnesses, but it's not Stormy Daniels.

Prosecutors called Sally Franklin, the senior vice president and executive managing editor for Penguin Random House publishing group.

Franklin is currently testifying about Donald Trump's book, "Trump How To Get Rich," which claims to be a No. 1 national bestseller.

Trump wrote the book with the help Meredith McIver, which was published by Ballantine Books.

Jurors are being show the cover of the book.

[mystery-ak]

2 minutes ago
Trump bragged in book that all women 'flirted with me' on 'The Apprentice': testimony

Donald Trump claimed in a book that all women on "The Apprentice" flirted with him "consciously or unconsciously" because there's "always" a sexual dynamic between unless you're asexual," a witness testified.

Penguin Random House's Sally Franklin is currently reading excerpts from Trump's 2004 book, "Trump How To Get Rich."

"All the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected. A sexual dynamic is always present between people, unless you are asexual," Franklin testified, reading from the excerpt.

The book was published before Trump's alleged tryst with Stormy Daniels.