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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #200 on: April 22, 2024, 03:20:52 pm »
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Trump's attorney: Donald Trump is 'innocent'

Trump's attorney Todd Blanche has started his opening statements, saying that Trump is "innocent" and didn't "commit any crimes."

"President Trump is innocent. President Trump did not commit any crimes. The Manhattan District Attorney's Office should never have brought this case," Blanche said.

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Prosecutors: Michael Cohen has 'made mistakes,' lied to 'protect his boss'

Prosecutors said that the jury will hear a lot about Michael Cohen at Trump’s hush money trial and that he “made mistakes in the past.”

“Michael Cohen has made mistakes in the past,” Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Matthew Colangelo said, before listing Cohen’s criminal record.

Colangelo said Cohen lied to “protect his boss.”
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #201 on: April 22, 2024, 03:22:15 pm »
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Judge Juan Merchan instructed jurors on how to handle the case as proceedings got underway in former President Trump's NY criminal case on Monday.

Merchan spoke with the jurors just before prosecutors made their opening statement. He explained the nature of evidence and how it will be presented to the court, and he emphasized that the indictment against Trump is not evidence of guilt.

He told jurors they are not allowed to ask questions, but they are allowed to take notes throughout the trial.

He also went on to instruct the jurors not to discuss the case with anyone, visit any places where the crime was alleged to have been committed, or read about and research the case outside of the courtroom.

Prosecutors are seeking to establish that Trump's hush money payment to pornography actress Stormy Daniels was in fact a campaign contribution that went unreported. Trump argues the payment was not directly related to his 2016 campaign.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #202 on: April 22, 2024, 03:25:48 pm »
Anyone get the feeling that a 'guilty' verdict is already likely? 

Also, I think it could be probable that all what is happening surrounding Trump and his legal woes maybe also be a diversion to what else is happening to our country.  People are very focused on this. Border?  Economy?  Mob rule?  Should be more of a focus.  Just a thought here.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #203 on: April 22, 2024, 03:38:45 pm »
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Defense says there's 'nothing wrong' with trying to influence an election
By Kyle Schnitzer

After prosecutors said that Donald Trump orchestrated a "criminal scheme" to corrupt the 2016 presidential election, Todd Blanche, Trump's attorney, claimed that there's "nothing wrong" with trying to "influence an election."

“There’s nothing wrong with trying to influence an election," Blanche said. "It’s called democracy. They put something sinister as if it was a crime.”

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Trump is a family man despite family not in court: attorney
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Trump's attorney Todd Blanche tried humanizing the former president by calling him a "husband" and a "father" — but none of Trump's family is present in the courtroom for opening statements in the hush money trial.

"He’s a man. He’s a husband, he’s a father, and he’s a person, just like you and just like me," Blanche said.

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Todd Blanche explains why he still calls Trump the 'president'

Donald Trump’s attorney Todd Blanche said that the defense will refer to Trump as “President Trump” out of “respect” for his service to the country.

"We will call him President Trump out of respect," Blanche said.

Trump is referred to as president by his attorneys throughout the hush money trial.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #204 on: April 22, 2024, 03:40:30 pm »
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Trump's attorney tries to insinuate that Stormy Daniels was trying to 'extort' Trump before being shot down by judge
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Donald Trump's attorney tried to insinuate that Stormy Daniels was trying to extort the former president before an objection was raised.

"It was almost an effort to extort President Trump," Blanche said.

The people objected, and Justice Juan Merchan sustained the objection.

He went on to say, "It was sinister, and it was an attempt to try to embarrass President Trump."

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Cohen has an 'obsession with getting Trump': Todd Blanche

Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's attorney, said that Michael Cohen is obsessed with "getting Trump" and he "cannot be trusted."

"He has an obsession with getting Trump, and you are going to hear that. I submit to you that he cannot be trusted."

His remarks come after prosecutors told the jury to give Cohen a chance despite his past mistakes.

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Trump is 'cloaked in innocence': attorney
By Kyle Schnitzer

Trump's attorney Todd Blanche said that the former president is "cloaked in innocence" and that the jury will find plenty of holes in the prosecution's hush money case.

"It is not simple, as the people just described," Blanche said, adding that what prosecutors told the jury is not true, and it will case "plenty of reasonable doubt."

He also added that Trump is "cloaked in innocence."
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #205 on: April 22, 2024, 03:46:02 pm »
An observation about the prosecution's approach:  they are claiming that paying someone to suppress information about something not related to the conduct of government during the run-up to an election is "election fraud".  What then is pressuring tech companies with threats of onerous regulations, trotting out ex-intelligence-service-officials to lie and say that real evidence of at least potential corruption in the conduct of official duties is not real, but "Russian disinformation"?  Surely it, too would be election fraud under the prosecution's construction of the notion.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #206 on: April 22, 2024, 03:48:41 pm »
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Cohen has an 'obsession with getting Trump': Todd Blanche

Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's attorney, said that Michael Cohen is obsessed with "getting Trump" and he "cannot be trusted."

"He has an obsession with getting Trump, and you are going to hear that. I submit to you that he cannot be trusted."

His remarks come after prosecutors told the jury to give Cohen a chance despite his past mistakes.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #208 on: April 22, 2024, 04:06:53 pm »
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Trump's attorney finishes opening statements: 'Use your common sense'
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Todd Blanche just wrapped up his opening statements in Donald Trump's hush money case, telling the jury to "use your common sense" when rendering a verdict.

"Use your common sense, you’re New Yorkers, that’s why we are here," he said.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #209 on: April 22, 2024, 04:08:36 pm »


...hmmm he just lost the case; accusing NY'ers of having common sense.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #210 on: April 22, 2024, 04:18:02 pm »
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Former National Enquirer publisher David Pecker takes the stand
By Ben Kochman

After a brief break, prosecutors have called their first witness to the stand: David Pecker, the ex-publisher of the National Enquirer tabloid magazine.

Pecker, Donald Trump and Michael Cohen huddled at Trump Tower in 2015, when they came up with the alleged scheme to "catch and kill" damaging stories about Trump, prosecutors say.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #211 on: April 22, 2024, 04:43:56 pm »
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Pecker: National Enquirer cover was the 'only thing' that mattered
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Former National Enquirer publisher David Pecker said the cover of the magazine was the "only thing" important in publishing.

“Being in the publishing industry for 40 years, I realized early in my career that the only thing that was important was the cover of the magazine," Pecker said on the witness stand.

Pecker said a reporter could not spend more than $10,000 to publish or produce a story for the National Enquirer without his approval.

Anything more than $10,000 would need to be vetted for approval, he testified.

"I had the final say on the celebrity side on the magazine," Pecker said.

He's currently under direct examination by Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #212 on: April 22, 2024, 04:45:26 pm »
Court is over for today..a juror has a toothache and needs to go to a dentist... :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #213 on: April 22, 2024, 04:52:56 pm »
 Judge says Manhattan DA can cross-examine Trump about Carroll, fraud decisions
by Ella Lee and Zach Schonfeld - 04/22/24 10:28 AM ET

NEW YORK — A New York judge said Monday that Manhattan prosecutors can bring up several civil lawsuits involving former President Trump if he chooses to testify in his ongoing criminal trial.

After hearing arguments Friday, Judge Juan Merchan ruled that prosecutors can cross-examine Trump about six of the 13 prior court determinations they requested to raise in their efforts to impugn the former president’s credibility in front of jurors.

Merchan ruled that prosecutors are permitted to question Trump about two rulings — one by a judge, the other by a jury — finding that Trump defamed advice columnist E. Jean Carroll by denying her claims of sexual assault.

The judge said prosecutors can also raise the decision in Trump’s civil fraud trial finding that he fraudulently manipulated property values as well as rulings finding that Trump violated the gag order in that case. Trump can also face questioning about a 2018 ruling in a lawsuit against his foundation.

But Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) cannot bring up sanctions imposed against Trump in a lawsuit he filed against Hillary Clinton in Florida, the judge ruled, as well as several other “bad acts” prosecutors desired to cross-examine Trump about.

Merchan’s ruling is designed to give Trump’s legal team an informed view as it mulls whether the former president should take the stand in his defense.

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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #214 on: April 22, 2024, 07:07:35 pm »
Trump Trial Day 5: Matthew Colangelo, Ex-Biden Admin Official, Gives Prosecution’s Opening Statement

Matthew Colangelo, a former Biden DOJ official, delivered the prosecution’s opening statement on Monday in the Trump criminal trial.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/22/trump-trial-day-5-matthew-colangelo-ex-biden-admin-official-gives-prosecutions-opening-statement/
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #215 on: April 22, 2024, 08:03:56 pm »
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To get Trump
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Trump Trial Day 5: Matthew Colangelo, Ex-Biden Admin Official, Gives Prosecution’s Opening Statement

Matthew Colangelo, a former Biden DOJ official, delivered the prosecution’s opening statement on Monday in the Trump criminal trial.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/22/trump-trial-day-5-matthew-colangelo-ex-biden-admin-official-gives-prosecutions-opening-statement/

Colangelo’s history in the Democrat party runs deep. He worked in the Obama administration as a senior Labor Department official and found his way into Biden’s DOJ, appointed as acting associate attorney general when Biden took office. In that position, as the third highest-ranking official at the department, Colangelo oversaw the Civil, Civil Rights, Antitrust, and Tax divisions, among others.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #217 on: April 22, 2024, 08:12:40 pm »
Judge says Manhattan DA can cross-examine Trump about Carroll, fraud decisions
by Ella Lee and Zach Schonfeld - 04/22/24 10:28 AM ET

NEW YORK — A New York judge said Monday that Manhattan prosecutors can bring up several civil lawsuits involving former President Trump if he chooses to testify in his ongoing criminal trial.

After hearing arguments Friday, Judge Juan Merchan ruled that prosecutors can cross-examine Trump about six of the 13 prior court determinations they requested to raise in their efforts to impugn the former president’s credibility in front of jurors.

Merchan ruled that prosecutors are permitted to question Trump about two rulings — one by a judge, the other by a jury — finding that Trump defamed advice columnist E. Jean Carroll by denying her claims of sexual assault.

The judge said prosecutors can also raise the decision in Trump’s civil fraud trial finding that he fraudulently manipulated property values as well as rulings finding that Trump violated the gag order in that case. Trump can also face questioning about a 2018 ruling in a lawsuit against his foundation.

But Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) cannot bring up sanctions imposed against Trump in a lawsuit he filed against Hillary Clinton in Florida, the judge ruled, as well as several other “bad acts” prosecutors desired to cross-examine Trump about.

Merchan’s ruling is designed to give Trump’s legal team an informed view as it mulls whether the former president should take the stand in his defense.

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???Well, I am not so sure that Trump taking the stand in his own defense is wise -- perhaps it will in the long run be favorable, but  he tends to insert his foot in his mouth.

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« Reply #218 on: April 22, 2024, 08:21:30 pm »
???Well, I am not so sure that Trump taking the stand in his own defense is wise -- perhaps it will in the long run be favorable, but  he tends to insert his foot in his mouth.

Prayers up for DJT.

Both feet. At the same time...  :whistle:

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« Reply #219 on: April 22, 2024, 09:35:10 pm »
Jonathan Turley left in ‘utter disbelief’ over DA’s case against Trump

Fox News contributor and legal expert Jonathan Turley said former President Donald Trump’s trial in Manhattan over allegedly falsifying business records has left him “in utter disbelief.”

“What is clear, is in this case, Trump is right. I mean, this is an embarrassment. I mean, the fact that we are actually talking about this case being presented in a New York courtroom, leaves me in utter disbelief. I mean, the the arguments today did in fact capture all the problems here,” Turley said Monday afternoon on Fox News.

"You had this misdemeanor under state law, that had run out, this is going back to relate it to the 2016 election. And they zapped it back into life by alleging that there was a campaign finance violation under the federal laws that doesn't exist," he said.

Turley was reacting to the trial Monday, which has officially kicked off in earnest after jury selection last week, as well as a recent poll finding 31% of Americans find Trump’s behavior at the crux of the case unethical, but not illegal. While an additional 14% said there was “nothing wrong” with Trump’s actions, and 35% who said his actions were “illegal.”

“This case should not have been brought , and if it were brought, there was no reason to have this right before the election in my view. But this is becoming the split screen election,” Turley said. “Earlier it was pretty damaging to see the split screen between Trump in different courtrooms. This is even more effective when the other side of the screen shows Biden campaigning in key states like Pennsylvania, while he's held in this courtroom."

“It really brings home something that bothers a lot of Americans, including people don't particularly like Trump, that this is the weaponization of the criminal legal system. It's something we should all be able to condemn."

Court wrapped up around 12:30 on Monday, earlier than initially anticipated, after a juror experiencing a toothache required a dental appointment.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #220 on: April 22, 2024, 10:41:11 pm »
???Well, I am not so sure that Trump taking the stand in his own defense is wise -- perhaps it will in the long run be favorable, but  he tends to insert his foot in his mouth.

Prayers up for DJT.

I didn't think Trump could have limited the Cross-X anyway, and if I were he, I would not take the stand for Direct.  It would have the added effect of shocking the heck out of everybody, to boot!
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« Reply #221 on: April 22, 2024, 10:49:26 pm »
Trump lawyers unveil hush money strategy: Prosecutors’ facts show ‘nothing illegal’

By Kaelan Deese
April 22, 2024 5:57 pm


NEW YORK — Attorneys for Donald Trump unveiled their defense strategy during opening arguments in his hush money case on Monday, largely choosing to dispute the laws under which prosecutors have charged Trump rather than the allegations themselves.

For the defense’s opening statement, Trump lawyer Todd Blanche told the jury that Trump was not involved in nor aware of the specifics of hush money payments because Trump left it up to his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen to manage. Blanche said his client had “nothing to do with” creating 34 checks, the hush money along with other compensation to Cohen, or the allegedly falsified entries on the ledger.

But he said many elements of the indictment against Trump seek to criminalize actions that are not actually illegal.

“Entering into a nondisclosure agreement is perfectly legal; companies do that all the time,” Blanche said. “There’s nothing illegal about that.”

Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo objected after Blanche said that Stormy Daniels’s allegations that she and Trump had an affair were almost an “attempt to extort President Trump.” Justice Juan Merchan sustained the objection on Blanche’s comment, and the attorney continued.

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« Reply #222 on: April 23, 2024, 04:57:08 am »
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BREAKING: Donald Trumps defense team said the following during their open statement.

Donald Trump’s defense team,

“We will call him “President” Trump for the remainder of the trial out of respect for his service to the country.”

“President Trump is innocent. President Trump did not commit any crimes. The Manhattan District Attorney's Office should never have brought this case.”

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« Reply #223 on: April 23, 2024, 05:02:00 am »
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