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Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« on: April 09, 2024, 06:14:09 pm »
Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
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The Arizona Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld a Civil War-era law that nearly bans all abortions in the state.

The decision could play a major factor in the 2024 election as voters will likely weigh whether abortion rights should be added to the state’s constitution.

Upholding the 160-year-old law, passed before Arizona’s statehood, means that it will be “prospectively enforced” by April 23. The law bans abortions with exceptions in cases in which the mother faces immediate life-threatening conditions, and it mandates a prison sentence of between two and five years for a healthcare provider that performs the procedure unlawfully.

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2024, 06:14:57 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2024, 09:38:57 pm »
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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2024, 10:21:01 pm »
Sen. Kelly: ‘Disaster’ Arizona Abortion Ban Because of Trump – He Could Go After Contraception Next

Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ) said Tuesday on CNN’s “The Lead ” that it is fomer President Donald Trump’s fault the Arizona’s Supreme Court upheld a 123-year-old penal code provision that bans nearly all abortions except to save the life of the mother.

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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2024, 10:46:53 pm »
It was a trap.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2024, 11:41:13 pm »
Sen. Kelly: ‘Disaster’ Arizona Abortion Ban Because of Trump – He Could Go After Contraception Next

Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ) said Tuesday on CNN’s “The Lead ” that it is fomer President Donald Trump’s fault the Arizona’s Supreme Court upheld a 123-year-old penal code provision that bans nearly all abortions except to save the life of the mother.

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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2024, 11:53:46 pm »
Kelly is a moron.

Yeah he is. It's a legit ruling, and if any fixing is to be done, the pressure is on the state legislators, not Tumpy.

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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2024, 12:27:11 am »
This isn't going to stand.
Primarily, because Arizona is a blue state now (and I don't care what that "hiker" says).

Assuming that AZ has referendum/initiative (Cyber?), won't be long until this issue gets on the ballot.

And when it comes to a vote, stand back -- I suspect you'd see even a third of Republican women voters putting in ballots for liberalization.

My opinion only, but I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's the future I see in Arizona.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2024, 01:00:56 am »
This isn't going to stand.
Primarily, because Arizona is a blue state now (and I don't care what that "hiker" says).

Assuming that AZ has referendum/initiative (Cyber?), won't be long until this issue gets on the ballot.

And when it comes to a vote, stand back -- I suspect you'd see even a third of Republican women voters putting in ballots for liberalization.

My opinion only, but I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's the future I see in Arizona.

You need some thick "Coke-bottle-bottom" glasses.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2024, 01:05:48 am »
That's really all this state needed.

Not that the AZ SC cares about elections...it should not.

But this will be a huge nail the coffin of Kari Lake is she jumps on this and runs with it.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2024, 02:16:05 am »
Maybe if Arizona Republicans started choosing Conservative candidates instead of candidates that suck up to Donald Trump, we could win us a Senate seat.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2024, 03:11:32 am »
Maybe if Arizona Republicans started choosing Conservative candidates instead of candidates that suck up to Donald Trump, we could win us a Senate seat.

Arizona conservatives are disjointed and a mess.

John McStain and his politics of personal destruction help to see that happen. 

Things are getting better.  But the loudmouths like Lake are going to be a pain in the ass for a long time to come.

The party barely holds a majority in the state house and senate and are scared to death of losing it. 

They can't beat someone like K A T I E  H O B B S.  No confidence at all.

And the state has more registered independents than Republicans or Democrats.  Most of them....former Republicans who are fed up with the B.S.

The party has a lot of work to do. 

But you have the MCRC (Maricop County Republican Committee) wholeheatedly endorsing Donald Trump.  That just went over like a lead baloon. 

A freaking lot of work to do. 

A conservative is someone who knows, understands, AND PRACTICES conservative principles. 

They are as rare, in this state, as snow tigers. 

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2024, 03:58:55 am »
Arizona conservatives are disjointed and a mess.

John McStain and his politics of personal destruction help to see that happen. 

Things are getting better.  But the loudmouths like Lake are going to be a pain in the ass for a long time to come.

The party barely holds a majority in the state house and senate and are scared to death of losing it. 

They can't beat someone like K A T I E  H O B B S.  No confidence at all.

And the state has more registered independents than Republicans or Democrats.  Most of them....former Republicans who are fed up with the B.S.

The party has a lot of work to do. 

But you have the MCRC (Maricop County Republican Committee) wholeheatedly endorsing Donald Trump.  That just went over like a lead baloon. 

A freaking lot of work to do. 

A conservative is someone who knows, understands, AND PRACTICES conservative principles. 

They are as rare, in this state, as snow tigers.
Finding a few (tens of thousands of) extra votes in Maricopa County mighta helped Hobbs, ya think?
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2024, 04:06:13 am »
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The liberal Arizona Supreme Court ruling does not go far enough ... back in time ... to witch trials and burning witches at the stake.



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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2024, 04:30:54 am »
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The liberal Arizona Supreme Court ruling does not go far enough ... back in time ... to witch trials and burning witches at the stake.



Go Puritan, or go bust, Arizona!
About the time that was a thing' in Mass., The locals in what would be named Arizona valued all their new tribal members.

How primitive. (/s)
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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2024, 01:49:30 pm »
Arizona Attorney General Says She Won’t Enforce State Supreme Court Ruling Banning Abortion


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Democratic Attorney General Kristin Mayes of Arizona announced on Tuesday that she would not enforce a ruling from her state’s supreme court upholding an 1864 law that bans most abortions.

On Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled that a law criminalizing abortions, except in cases where necessary to save the mother’s life, may be enforced following the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization in 2022, which ruled that there is no constitutional right to an abortion. Mayes, one of the named parties in the case, subsequently issued a statement on X condemning the decision while claiming that her prosecutors would not enforce the law against doctors and women seeking abortions.

“[L]et me be completely clear, as long as I am Attorney General, no woman or doctor will be prosecuted under this draconian law in this state,” wrote Mayes. “Today’s decision to re-impose a law from a time when Arizona wasn’t a state, the Civil War was raging, and women couldn’t even vote will go down in history as a stain on our state.”

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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
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Arizona Attorney General Says She Won’t Enforce State Supreme Court Ruling Banning Abortion


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Democratic Attorney General Kristin Mayes of Arizona announced on Tuesday that she would not enforce a ruling from her state’s supreme court upholding an 1864 law that bans most abortions.

On Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled that a law criminalizing abortions, except in cases where necessary to save the mother’s life, may be enforced following the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization in 2022, which ruled that there is no constitutional right to an abortion. Mayes, one of the named parties in the case, subsequently issued a statement on X condemning the decision while claiming that her prosecutors would not enforce the law against doctors and women seeking abortions.

“[L]et me be completely clear, as long as I am Attorney General, no woman or doctor will be prosecuted under this draconian law in this state,” wrote Mayes. “Today’s decision to re-impose a law from a time when Arizona wasn’t a state, the Civil War was raging, and women couldn’t even vote will go down in history as a stain on our state.”

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Re: Arizona Supreme Court upholds Civil War-era abortion ban
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2024, 03:10:51 am »
Finding a few (tens of thousands of) extra votes in Maricopa County mighta helped Hobbs, ya think?

Having over 300K Republican ballots not returned (per Turning Point) might have helped her a whole lot more.

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Arizona Attorney General Says She Won’t Enforce State Supreme Court Ruling Banning Abortion


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Democratic Attorney General Kristin Mayes of Arizona announced on Tuesday that she would not enforce a ruling from her state’s supreme court upholding an 1864 law that bans most abortions.

On Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled that a law criminalizing abortions, except in cases where necessary to save the mother’s life, may be enforced following the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization in 2022, which ruled that there is no constitutional right to an abortion. Mayes, one of the named parties in the case, subsequently issued a statement on X condemning the decision while claiming that her prosecutors would not enforce the law against doctors and women seeking abortions.

“[L]et me be completely clear, as long as I am Attorney General, no woman or doctor will be prosecuted under this draconian law in this state,” wrote Mayes. “Today’s decision to re-impose a law from a time when Arizona wasn’t a state, the Civil War was raging, and women couldn’t even vote will go down in history as a stain on our state.”

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Where is the effort to recall this slimy piece of owl poop ? 

She's been in too long, flaunted the law for too long and is a total moron.

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2024, 03:19:08 am »
The state government should start impeachment proceedings immediately. She doesn't get to decide which laws she's going to enforce. She either follows the law or should be replaced someone who will. The democrats scream "democracy" while completely enforcing their own will on everyone ignoring the law. That is simply tyranny.

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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2024, 03:45:58 am »
As I have said before, and from observation during race riots in High School, when one group gets to ignore the rules, it isn't long before others decide they don't need to abide by the rules, either.

Either this crap gets reined in or chaos is coming.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2024, 12:24:46 pm »
It was a trap.
I didn't hear this, but Mr. M told me he heard it discussed on the Clay and Buck show. They said this ruling plays right into the Dems' hands to give them a key issue around which to rally their troops in a very important battleground state.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2024, 06:04:38 pm »
I didn't hear this, but Mr. M told me he heard it discussed on the Clay and Buck show. They said this ruling plays right into the Dems' hands to give them a key issue around which to rally their troops in a very important battleground state.

In my opinion.....

It's not the issue, but the way the right handles the issue that is the problem. 

All the screaming crazies come out and immediately made poster bois for the entire state GOP. 

It's marketing B.S. 101 and, in that regard, the right plays right into the hands of the left and media...consistently.

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2024, 06:07:24 pm »
About the time that was a thing' in Mass., The locals in what would be named Arizona valued all their new tribal members.

How primitive. (/s)

Apples and Oranges.

The woman in the drawing was accused of witchcraft (or that was the reference anyway).

Ancient Native Americans had rituals that included burning adults at the stake.

Human nature is consisten.