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California bill could make it easier for large developers to ax iconic trees
By Alec Regimbal
May 3, 2024
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A bill working its way through the California legislature would make it less burdensome for commercial and industrial developers to cut down Joshua trees, one of the state’s most iconic plants.

Existing law requires developers to pay a fee for each Joshua tree they remove unless they take certain steps to alleviate damage done to the environment. Enacted in 2023, the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act also allows local governments to levy smaller fees for minor development projects.

But an assemblymember representing a broad swath of the Mojave Desert, where the trees grow, wants to make it easier to cut them down. Assembly Bill 2443, if passed, would let cities and counties offer the same benefits to developers looking to build larger “industrial projects and commercial projects.” ...

A legislative analysis of the bill said opponents believe the bill’s passage could result in the destruction of “hundreds” of trees in a single project. They also say, according to the analysis, that allowing large developers to pay smaller fees could decrease the money the state collects for conservation by “50% or more,” and that the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act is so new that any changes would blunt its impact. ...

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4,200 Joshua trees are scheduled to be removed are replaced by solar panels for the Aratina Solar Project near Boron, CA in June of this year.  They will not be salvaged but funds based on the size of the tree will be placed in a mitigation bank.
1:43 PM · May 4, 2024

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We have to destroy the environment in order to save it.
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But don't you dare drive your ORV's out there because they are bad for the environment, sanctimonious hypocrites need to be tarred and feathered and run out on rails. It really makes you wonder why they even bothered with this https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/pollinators/animals/joshuatreeseed/index.shtml#:~:text=Joshua%20trees%20are%20pollinated%20only,remarkable%20example%20of%20co%2Devolution.

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4,200 Joshua trees are scheduled to be removed are replaced by solar panels for the Aratina Solar Project near Boron, CA in June of this year.  They will not be salvaged but funds based on the size of the tree will be placed in a mitigation bank.
1:43 PM · May 4, 2024

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We have to destroy the environment in order to save it.
6:24 PM · May 5, 2024
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This proposed bill had me scratching my head. I've driven through areas that have Joshua trees (along I-10) multiple times. It's not prime residential development real estate. That the Greenies want it for a Bird Fryer farm boondoggle makes Prog-sense of the bill.
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IOW, we must destroy the trees to save the trees.
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Why don't they just put the solar panels in Palm Springs?  That way, it will only impact rich bastards.

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CA solar firm rips into wilderness: Will it doom 4,200 Joshua Trees?
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May 18th, 2024
 
Some Greens are waking up to the ills of so-called “green” energy. And it’s about time. And rather fun to watch – if the drive for the holier-than-thou green grail hadn’t already done so much damage to the beautiful environment of our great country.

Basin and Range Watch posted on X: 4,200 Joshua trees are scheduled to be removed and replaced by solar panels for the Aratina Solar Project near Boron, CA, in June of this year. The trees will not be salvaged, but funds based on their size will be placed in a mitigation bank.

Wow, but keep in mind Joshua trees are not very big. And how do they figure out the fund size? Who cares?! If they can be cavalier about thousands of Joshua trees, think about what else will not be worth salvaging.

Jason Brown, on sierrawave.net, posted a short piece titled “Shadows Over Joshua Tree: Sacrificing Nature for Solar Power”. He notes:

https://www.cfact.org/2024/05/18/ca-solar-firm-rips-into-wilderness-will-it-doom-4200-joshua-trees/
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It depends on how much grease they have to put in Newsom's back pocket. :whistle:
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Forget the plain and simple fact that solar in California is not economically viable because the market is so saturated all the electricity produced is more than can be used in the state during the day forcing utilities to pay other states to take the excess and reduce payments to homeowners pushing their excess to the grid.

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It's not 'climate change' that is killing off joshua trees.  It's 'climate change hysteria' that's doing it.
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It's not 'climate change' that is killing off joshua trees.  It's 'climate change hysteria' that's doing it.
Same thing that's killing off segments of the economy.

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Same thing that's killing off segments of the economy.
If they get their way, they'll be killing off people with this crap. But then, that's what their guidestones said to do...13 out of every 14 people.
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Why don't they just put the solar panels in Palm Springs?  That way, it will only impact rich bastards.

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Because in Palm Springs they are rich GAY bastards and besides the land around there is already covered with windmills.

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Thousands of Joshua Trees set to fall victim to Green-Energy transition
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June 28th, 2024
 
More than 3,500 majestic Joshua trees in California’s Mojave Desert are being shredded onsite to make way for thousands of solar panels under a plan approved by California and Kern County officials.

The sprawling solar project will produce intermittent energy on 2,300 acres of land near the small towns of Boron and Desert Lake. It is not clear whether any of the electricity produced at the solar site will serve some nearby communities. But the project’s developer, California-based Avantus, says contracts have been signed to deliver some of the power to Silicon Valley Clean Energy and Central Coast Community Energy, both are nonprofits that provide green energy to homes in more affluent coastal communities, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Even though many of the trees are estimated to be between 100 and 200 years old, government approval of the solar project in 2021 predated a state decision to protect the Joshua tree under the California Endangered Species Act and last year’s enactment by the legislature of the Joshua Tree Conservation Act, which bans unpermitted killing of the trees. As a result, the targeted trees are defenseless.

Now that the fate of the Joshua trees has been sealed, the developer is at pains to justify the Aratina Solar Project by citing its role in combatting manmade climate change.

https://www.cfact.org/2024/06/28/thousands-of-joshua-trees-set-to-fall-victim-to-green-energy-transition/
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Companies making money and governments getting tax revenue from them, is the only true way to save the environment and if a few thousand trees are sacrificed, it's all for the good of the planet! *****rollingeyes*****
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Also note that the expected electricity to be produced will only serve Silicon Valley and the wealthy enclaves on the coast...local residents who have to live with this will get nothing.  Same thing going on here in Pennsylvania...solar farms built in Adams, York, and Franklin Counties are supplying Philly and nothing else.

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Merged three threads on Joshua trees.

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Merged three threads on Joshua trees.

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California has two major electric utilities. There is no way to divide power going to Silicon Valley from power going to Arbuckle.
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