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Robert F Kennedy Jr calls Biden ‘much worse threat to democracy’ than Trump

After Donald Trump said that he loved how Robert F Kennedy Jr was running for president, the independent candidate called Joe Biden “a much worse threat to democracy” than Trump, citing the Biden White House’s involvement in a US supreme court case focused on social media.

A noted anti-vaxxer who has peddled conspiracy theories, Kennedy currently faces an uphill task to get on enough state ballots, though on Monday his campaign said his name would appear on the ballot in the crucial state of North Carolina.

Both the Republican and Democratic parties have increasingly seen Kennedy as a threat in the November election over fears that he could siphon off enough votes to swing the election. It remains unclear whose support base Kennedy might tap into. Historically a Democrat with a strong environmental record, Kennedy has drifted rightwards on various issues and his anti-vaccine views could attract Trump supporters.

Kennedy’s remarks in an interview on CNN on Monday centered on the pending supreme court case Murthy v Missouri, which tests the limits of how much the government can pressure social media companies to remove content.

The case comes out of efforts by the Biden administration to push social media platforms to take down false posts about the Covid-19 pandemic and the 2020 presidential election that Biden one and which Trump has consistently lied was stolen from him.

In oral arguments before the court last month, justices appeared skeptical of arguments in favor of limiting contacts between government officials and social media companies, a practice known as “jawboning” that some argue is tantamount to censorship.

Kennedy told CNN that Biden “has used the federal agencies to censor political speech”.

“I can make the argument that President Biden is the much worse threat to democracy, and the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history, that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech … to censor his opponent,” Kennedy told the outlet...................

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cnn-interview-biden-trump
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ARE YOU LISTENING, @roamer_1 ??  DO YOU GET IT??  /s
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ARE YOU LISTENING, @roamer_1 ??  DO YOU GET IT??  /s

I think this is a consideration for those on either side of the aisle.  He has a money machine as his VP and will likely be able to get onto the ballot in all 50 states.  He will then become a viable candidate and give the disgruntled voters on both sides another option. Certainly better than Biden for the DEMS and those that hate Trump a possible alternative.

The question is though, which sides will he take more votes away from?  IMO the DEMS.
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ARE YOU LISTENING, @roamer_1 ??  DO YOU GET IT??  /s

Nope. Same damn thing. Your big government is the same big government as their big government, @DCPatriot

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Here are the polling numbers (for what their worth):

Biden vs. Trump vs. RFK Jr. polls
Trump has a 2.3% lead based on 106 polls.

Apr 2, 2024

Trump
41.5%

Biden
39.2%

Kennedy
9.5%

Trump has a slight lead, but more interesting is that Kennedy is polling at nearly 10%. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4568220-biden-trump-kennedy-polling/
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Democracy is another one of those words that’s being loosely tossed around without any definition of what it means

Both men believe in growing the size of the federal government. The Biden administration does abuse their  opposition, but Trump is also promising retribution against those who “wronged” him. Trump is also open to censorship , especially to media outlets that he feels are “unfair” to him



I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them.

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Democratic Party wants to 'silence' RFK Jr.: Bo Snerdley | Morning in America


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6EykxU3ds
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Nope. Same damn thing. Your big government is the same big government as their big government, @DCPatriot

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« Last Edit: April 02, 2024, 06:48:56 pm by Mod2 »
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I agree with RFK Jr. I'd vote for him.

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Said the moron who would love to do Climate lockdowns
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

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Why so angry? If it upsets you so much why keep engaging? Neither one of you will ever change the mind of the other... :pondering: Dang, I need to follow my own advice :beer:
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I agree with RFK Jr. on this one limited point.

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I agree with RFK Jr. on this one limited point.

I do as well and I agree with him on some other issues, but that definitely isn't enough to make me vote for him.  He's better than Biden, yes, but that's not saying a whole lot. Biden is the WORST and MOST DESTRUCTIVE president we've ever had.
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Why so angry? If it upsets you so much why keep engaging? Neither one of you will ever change the mind of the other... :pondering: Dang, I need to follow my own advice :beer:

He's way too intelligent to not know he's doing it all for a reaction.  It infuriates me.  He is nothing but a troll.
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He's way too intelligent to not know he's doing it all for a reaction.  It infuriates me.  He is nothing but a troll.

Be infuriated. I am speaking my mind, and have every right to do so...

Your government IS their government. It's the same damn government.
The BEST guard against Democrat power is to take that power away from the federal government
WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG.

Y'all think you can run that big badass government better than they can.
You can't.
As proven.

STOP trying to lever big government into the Right, or there is no stopping it thereafter.
Defend Conservatism on the right, or there will be no one to rise to battle this overweening federal monstrosity.

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Be infuriated. I am speaking my mind, and have every right to do so...

Your government IS their government. It's the same damn government.
The BEST guard against Democrat power is to take that power away from the federal government
WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG.


Y'all think you can run that big badass government better than they can.
You can't.
As proven.

STOP trying to lever big government into the Right, or there is no stopping it thereafter.
Defend Conservatism on the right, or there will be no one to rise to battle this overweening federal monstrosity.

The power of the government needs to be returned to the States and ultimately the people.  Gov't is of the mindset that they need to control every aspect of our lives and thus we our losing our freedoms.
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The power of the government needs to be returned to the States and ultimately the people.  Gov't is of the mindset that they need to control every aspect of our lives and thus we our losing our freedoms.

That is absolutely correct.

And the Right has to be dissatisfied with paltry success. That this guy gets another whack at it after record spending, record debt, and the damage to liberty that occurred on his watch is a travesty.

 *YOU GOT NOTHIN, DAMMIT*
That should piss you off!

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If ol' white joe insists on running again, and if he experiences MORE "decline" as the election approaches, watch for a lot of DCommunist voters to take a more serious look at Bobby Jr. ...

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He's way too intelligent to not know he's doing it all for a reaction.  It infuriates me.  He is nothing but a troll.
I don’t think so, roamer has been consistent and unchanged in his views as long As I have been here…just as you have.

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Said the moron who would love to do Climate lockdowns

Right, which is why I wouldn't vote for him, haha.

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RFK Jr. Says Joe Biden Is NOT ‘In Possession of His Faculty.’

Kennedy’s son, Connor, who voluntarily enlisted to fight in Ukraine(!?!?!!), told him, “The government’s being run by anonymous men in lanyards.”

“You know, a bunch of guys who got their feet on the desk and saying, ‘Guess what? I’m president,’” @RobertKennedyJr
 continued.

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1776439214302691386

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ARE YOU LISTENING, @roamer_1 ??  DO YOU GET IT??  /s

I get it.  This election is not a binomial choice.  There are other options out there besides the two main debt-loving liberals.

Yet some posters here keep pushing the same tired logical fallacies.
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He's way too intelligent to not know he's doing it all for a reaction.  It infuriates me.  He is nothing but a troll.

Speaking of trolling, here is the point where it started on this thread:

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,528610.msg2997114.html#msg2997114
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