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Re: Gaza: Truths Behind All the Lies.. By Victor Davis Hanson
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2024, 10:22:13 pm »
These are your quote marks, no?

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2024, 07:37:21 pm
If the Palestinians living in Gaza are "Israeli" citizens as claimed,  this is certification that Israel is an apartheid state.
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Re: Gaza: Truths Behind All the Lies.. By Victor Davis Hanson
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2024, 11:25:14 pm »
Gaza was "unoccupied" on October 6th, 2023.

Hamas "occupied" Israel, first.

If the Gazans did not want Israeli boots up their asses, then, Hamas shouldn't have invaded Israel on October 7th, 2023.
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Re: Gaza: Truths Behind All the Lies.. By Victor Davis Hanson
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2024, 11:31:50 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on March 29, 2024, 11:25:14 pm
If the Gazans did not want Israeli boots up their asses, then, Hamas shouldn't have invaded Israel on October 7th, 2023.

Truth.
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Re: Gaza: Truths Behind All the Lies.. By Victor Davis Hanson
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2024, 11:59:04 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on March 29, 2024, 11:25:14 pm
Gaza was "unoccupied" on October 6th, 2023.

There is a school of thought that thinks "occupation" is defined as the effective control of a foreign territory by a hostile armed force--- and an outside force installing armed checkpoints, closing all avenues of travel, controlling employment, electricity, water, medical supplies, food deliveries, exercising an authority to move the inhabitants at will, and demanding "quiet" in return ---- meet this definition, even if the occupiers decline to live there.

One can certainly disagree with this, but that may no longer be enough to stop this school of thought from winning the debate.

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Re: Gaza: Truths Behind All the Lies.. By Victor Davis Hanson
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2024, 12:59:41 am »
Regardless of whether Gazans deemed themselves 'occupied' or not, the bottom line is:

1.  The Gazans agreed to a peace accord where every Israeli settlement in Gaza including assets like irrigation systems and horticulture greenhouse systems were abandoned and handed over to the Gazans, with every Israeli claim to Gazan land forfeited.

2.  Gazans through their elected leaders initiated a war that they now find themselves on the losing end of.


It is the Gazans who do not want peace.  It is the Gazans who reject a two-state solution.  And it is the Gazans who deserve no quarter in this.
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