MAGA - What Exactly Does That Mean ?

[LMAO]

It’s an acronym.  Making Attorneys Get Attorneys.

 

[LMAO]

Anyone who was present at the time knows Tumpy denounced Reagan, so... 

Yes he did

MAGA means whatever it's followers want it to mean. This is similar to what BHO supporters did in 2008. Whatever they believed or supported, BHO also shared their beliefs in their minds

Remember that woman who stated that BHO would pay her mortgage and gas? BHO never ran on that. But she molded him into her vision

You saw this with the "drain the swamp" phrase in 2016. Trump never used that phrase at first.  But it got him cheers when he said it and so he was able to sucker his supporters by simply repeating their chants

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-ditching-drain-swamp-rally-cry-adviser-says

‘Drain the swamp'” became a staple of the final month of Trump’s campaign, with crowds chanting it as loudly as they had been shouting “build the wall” and “lock her up.” The slogan also appeared on T-shirts and signs.

It has remained part of Trump’s post-election “thank you” tour. Whether in Ohio or Florida, the crowd continued to shout along with the president-elect as he vowed to curtail corruption in Washington — even as he revealed that he wasn’t always crazy about the catchphrase.

“Funny how that term caught on, isn’t it?” Trump mused during a rally this month in Des Moines, Iowa. “I tell everyone, I hated it. Somebody said ‘drain the swamp’ and I said, ‘Oh, that is so hokey. That is so terrible.'”

“I said, all right, I’ll try it,” Trump continued. “So like a month ago I said ‘drain the swamp’ and the place went crazy. And I said ‘Whoa, what’s this?’ Then I said it again. And then I start saying it like I meant it, right? And then I started to love it, and the place loved it. Drain the swamp. It’s true. It’s true. Drain the swamp.”

[roamer_1]

Yes he did

MAGA means whatever it's followers want it to mean. This is similar to what BHO supporters did in 2008. Whatever they believed or supported, BHO also shared their beliefs in their minds

Remember that woman who stated that BHO would pay her mortgage and gas? BHO never ran on that. But she molded him into her vision

You saw this with the "drain the swamp" phrase in 2016. Trump never used that phrase at first.  But it got him cheers when he said it and so he was able to sucker his supporters by simply repeating their chants

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-ditching-drain-swamp-rally-cry-adviser-says

‘Drain the swamp'” became a staple of the final month of Trump’s campaign, with crowds chanting it as loudly as they had been shouting “build the wall” and “lock her up.” The slogan also appeared on T-shirts and signs.

It has remained part of Trump’s post-election “thank you” tour. Whether in Ohio or Florida, the crowd continued to shout along with the president-elect as he vowed to curtail corruption in Washington — even as he revealed that he wasn’t always crazy about the catchphrase.

“Funny how that term caught on, isn’t it?” Trump mused during a rally this month in Des Moines, Iowa. “I tell everyone, I hated it. Somebody said ‘drain the swamp’ and I said, ‘Oh, that is so hokey. That is so terrible.'”

“I said, all right, I’ll try it,” Trump continued. “So like a month ago I said ‘drain the swamp’ and the place went crazy. And I said ‘Whoa, what’s this?’ Then I said it again. And then I start saying it like I meant it, right? And then I started to love it, and the place loved it. Drain the swamp. It’s true. It’s true. Drain the swamp.”

That's likely right - I mean 'how it is'...
Populism is its own internal feedback machine.
That's why it has no agenda.
And also why it is unmoored - Un-tethered to any principle.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

 But, there are no formally adopted principles that form a core platform for it.

Start here @Lando Lincoln

Freedom. The constitution. Fair trade.  American sovereignty.   Regulations reduction. Pro-life.  Law and ordér.  Peace through strength.  America First vs. globalism.  The American legacy.

Trump also knows there comes a time to get off your knees and fight ---- invaluable in times such as these.

[corbe]

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Anyone who was present at the time knows Tumpy denounced Reagan, so... 

So what?  Reagan took a lot of fire ---- the debt, immigration surrender and arms transfers to Iran spring to mind.

[Lando Lincoln]

Start here @Lando Lincoln

Freedom. The constitution. Fair trade.  American sovereignty.   Regulations reduction. Pro-life.  Law and ordér.  Peace through strength.  America First vs. globalism.  The American legacy.

Trump also knows there comes a time to get off your knees and fight ---- invaluable in times such as these.

Fair enough. Thanks.

[roamer_1]

Start here @Lando Lincoln

Freedom. The constitution. Fair trade.  American sovereignty.   Regulations reduction. Pro-life.  Law and ordér.  Peace through strength.  America First vs. globalism.  The American legacy.

Trump also knows there comes a time to get off your knees and fight ---- invaluable in times such as these.

Bumper stickers.

Now tell me HOW.

[mystery-ak]

Bumper stickers.

Now tell me HOW.

https://printify.com/custom-bumper-stickers/

[roamer_1]

https://printify.com/custom-bumper-stickers/

 

[Hoodat]

So what?  Reagan took a lot of fire ----

From Democrats.  Oh, wait . . .

[corbe]

From Democrats.  Oh, wait . . .

    Including Trump, himself   

[catfish1957]

- the debt, immigration surrender and arms transfers to Iran spring to mind.

I lived their era, and remember well that this post sounded a lot like liberal democrats were spewing at the time.

[Hoodat]

I lived their era, and remember well that this post sounded a lot like liberal democrats were spewing at the time.

Iran/Contra was a masterpiece.  We seriously ripped off Iran, and used the money to arm anti-Communist rebels.  And the reason for doing it was because Democrats in Congress thought that they should be in charge of foreign policy, not the President.  The Boland Amendments were a joke.

In the end, Lawrence Walsh spent over $71 million in taxpayer money trying to prosecute members of the Reagan Administration.  And he couldn't deliver a single conviction to be upheld.

Reagan should have told Congress to pound sand.  If Edward Boland wanted to be in charge of foreign policy, then he could run for President.

[HikerGuy83]

@Right_in_Virginia

I am, actually. Oh, I know what the pundits have ascribed to it. I have heard the stump-type platitudes given it. I agree with the basics of much of it. I know the zealotry of its devoted adherents. But, there are no formally adopted principles that form a core platform for it. At least, I am unaware of any.

That's basically what I was asking. 

WHEN was America great.  What did it look like (specfically).

What did we lose and what will America look like when we are "great again".

I, frankly, think we are pretty darn good right now. 

[HikerGuy83]

Start here @Lando Lincoln

Freedom. The constitution. Fair trade.  American sovereignty.   Regulations reduction. Pro-life.  Law and ordér.  Peace through strength.  America First vs. globalism.  The American legacy.

Trump also knows there comes a time to get off your knees and fight ---- invaluable in times such as these.

Freedom.....what about it ?  Have we lost some ?  Which ones ?  And how do we get them back ?

What about the Constitution.  Both the GOP and democrats have used it as toilet paper for the past century.  Just what are you proposing ?

Fair Trade ?  Who decides what is fair ?

Pro life vs. Pro Choice.  It's time to stop thinkiing about that politically and ask how we, as a people, came to this point.  Trump isn't going to change Jack Crap when it comes to this.  We need to look a little more closely at our collective soul and decide just what we think is important.

How about marriage ?  Bush's push for the ban on gay marriage saying "the preservation of marriage" is a great concern.  Just what the helk is out divorce rate ?  We don't want to preserve marriage ?  We are breaking them up at an incredible rate.  The average lenght of a marriage in the U.S. is just a little over eight years.  That's simply terrible.  And nobody in D.C. is going to fix it.

The American Legacy ?  Now this should be interesting.  What legacy would that be ?

[Right_in_Virginia]

What did we lose and what will America look like when we are "great again".

I, frankly, think we are pretty darn good right now.

Ladies and gentlemen ----    Meet Joe Biden's campaign manager.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Freedom.....what about it ?  Have we lost some ?  Which ones ?  And how do we get them back ?

What about the Constitution.  Both the GOP and democrats have used it as toilet paper for the past century.  Just what are you proposing ?

Fair Trade ?  Who decides what is fair ?

Pro life vs. Pro Choice.  It's time to stop thinkiing about that politically and ask how we, as a people, came to this point.  Trump isn't going to change Jack Crap when it comes to this.  We need to look a little more closely at our collective soul and decide just what we think is important.

How about marriage ?  Bush's push for the ban on gay marriage saying "the preservation of marriage" is a great concern.  Just what the helk is out divorce rate ?  We don't want to preserve marriage ?  We are breaking them up at an incredible rate.  The average lenght of a marriage in the U.S. is just a little over eight years.  That's simply terrible.  And nobody in D.C. is going to fix it.

The American Legacy ?  Now this should be interesting.  What legacy would that be ?

Write your own damn paper @HikerGuy83    . 

[HikerGuy83]

Write your own damn paper @HikerGuy83    . 

About what ?

I started the thread and I asked for specfics.  You called these out as specfics....which they clearly ARE NOT.

Get back to us when your head is out of the clouds and you can talk details.

Otherwise, MAGA still is nothing more than a sales pitch.

[HikerGuy83]

Ladies and gentlemen ----    Meet Joe Biden's campaign manager.   

And here we see a classic example of deflection in the form of attacking the messenger.

Someone can't make a good argument, so this is the default.

One of the things that makes America great is that we have survived idiots in the WH since 2000 (and an argument could be made that we've actually been surviving idiots since 1988).

Our Constitution is inspired and fantastic. 

But we have a room to grow and improve for sure.

Certainly the post I am quoting is an example of how our education system could be improved.  Deductive reasoning not being taught as it should be.

But you can't pass a law that says people have to think.

You also can't pass a law (thank heavens) that says everyone has to think the same way.

MAGA is still a sales pitch.  Always has been one.

[LMAO]

And here we see a classic example of deflection in the form of attacking the messenger.

Someone can't make a good argument, so this is the default.

We have all learned to expect that from the poster you're quoting

[HikerGuy83]

We have all learned to expect that from the poster you're quoting

Interesting.

Thanks for sharing that.

MAGA is nothing I've ever been drawn to.  I voted for Trump twice for other reasons.

But I hate the idea of this sales pitch and other sales pitches "Build Back Better", "Bidenomics", etc being the basis for people making choices.

For heck sakes.....

[Hoodat]

It is quite telling when the person espousing "Make America Great Again" is unable to express what it is that would make America great from where we currently stand.

[libertybele]

That's basically what I was asking. 

WHEN was America great.  What did it look like (specfically).

What did we lose and what will America look like when we are "great again".

I, frankly, think we are pretty darn good right now.

????  What the heck have you been smokin'???  Inflation and spending are out of control, we have an invasion at our borders which is seeping into the rest of the country with squatters taking hold, Americans continue to be victims at the hands of ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS have been granted rights under the 2A, they just passed federal red flag laws, they are pushing for green energy....etc., and you think things are pretty darn good???

[HikerGuy83]

????  What the heck have you been smokin'???  Inflation and spending are out of control, we have an invasion at our borders which is seeping into the rest of the country with squatters taking hold, Americans continue to be victims at the hands of ILLEGALS, ILLEGALS have been granted rights under the 2A, they just passed federal red flag laws, they are pushing for green energy....etc., and you think things are pretty darn good???

Yes, I do.

If you want to ask a legitimate (unprejudiced) question, feel free.  Otherwise, find someone else to lecture.