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[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

If they didn't have a big shiny expensive government, they wouldn't have the power to do anything.
The very SAME government y'all think is alright when Republicans are in charge.

It's the SAME government.
Government is the problem.
Take away its power (spending) and you castrate the DNC


HorseHillary!

Just how freaking old are  you,9 years old?

EVERY nation on Earth has a government,even African tribes still running around with bones in their noses.

The fault lies with complacent citizens that demand perfection "RIGHT DAMN NOW!",and if they don't get it,they stamp their little feets and go home to sulk.

You are either a part of the system working for change,or you are a surrender monkey sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you.

If the politicians feet are NOT held to the fire by the voters,they are free to do any damn thing they want to do.

The fact that so many grown adults just can't seem to understand this concept will always remain a mystery to me.

[sneakypete]

We voters decide who to vote for if we care enough to pay attention.   Turtle, etc., couldn't stop that.  But either there aren't enough of us, or the ones there are choose not to stay informed, or not enough of us vote.

In a Republic, it always comes down to the ones who vote, not the ones we elect.

@Maj. Bill Martin

And THERE it IS!

[roamer_1]

We voters decide who to vote for if we care enough to pay attention.   Turtle, etc., couldn't stop that.  But either there aren't enough of us, or the ones there are choose not to stay informed, or not enough of us vote.

In a Republic, it always comes down to the ones who vote, not the ones we elect.

Yes, Turdle DOES stop that. RNC stops that. National money is often not awarded to Conservative campaigns, often awarded to their primary opponents. Media is intentionally dried up so the Conservative can get no air. The Conservative is purposefully forced out before you or I get to choose. It happens all the time.

The moderate wing is no friend to actual Conservatives.

[roamer_1]

HorseHillary!

Just how freaking old are  you,9 years old?

EVERY nation on Earth has a government,even African tribes still running around with bones in their noses.

The fault lies with complacent citizens that demand perfection "RIGHT DAMN NOW!",and if they don't get it,they stamp their little feets and go home to sulk.

You are either a part of the system working for change,or you are a surrender monkey sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you.

If the politicians feet are NOT held to the fire by the voters,they are free to do any damn thing they want to do.

The fact that so many grown adults just can't seem to understand this concept will always remain a mystery to me.

Wrong. Entirely wrong-headed.
I have never preached *no* government, and you know it.
I have always preached *small* government - "governs least governs best"

This huge federal monolith is what those nasty democrats use to enslave you. Your rights are being taken from you precisely because THEY CAN. And they can because they have the power to. Take away the power, and suddenly they hold no threat.

The thing you ain't figured out yet is that When your guy leaves office and the next democrat gets in office, They'll have even more government to beat you with.

If your guy were at all conservative, when he left office, the democrats would be shackled by balanced budgets, and some amount of austerity having reduced the government and spending at their disposal.
@sneakypete

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Yes, Turdle DOES stop that. RNC stops that. National money is often not awarded to Conservative campaigns, often awarded to their primary opponents. Media is intentionally dried up so the Conservative can get no air. The Conservative is purposefully forced out before you or I get to choose. It happens all the time.

The moderate wing is no friend to actual Conservatives.

There have been plenty of conservative candidates run who have enough of a campaign out there that people can know that they are, in fact, conservatives.  And they just don't get enough votes.

We need to quit blaming that on the mysterious "them" and accept accountability that voters simply don't vote for them when given the chance. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Wrong. Entirely wrong-headed.
I have never preached *no* government, and you know it.
I have always preached *small* government - "governs least governs best"

This huge federal monolith is what those nasty democrats use to enslave you. Your rights are being taken from you precisely because THEY CAN. And they can because they have the power to. Take away the power, and suddenly they hold no threat.

The thing you ain't figured out yet is that When your guy leaves office and the next democrat gets in office, They'll have even more government to beat you with.

If your guy were at all conservative, when he left office, the democrats would be shackled by balanced budgets, and some amount of austerity having reduced the government and spending at their disposal.
@sneakypete

Trump massively screwed the pooch with those Covid handouts.  Leftist governments used a lot of that money to expand their agenda, and a lot of it was just plain wasted.  We now have a country full of people who believe -- because of that shutdown experience and free money -- that we really don't need to work hard to have nice things.  If we just bitch and whine enough, the government can just hand it out.  And they believe that because they watched it actually happen for more than a year.

Donald Trump slammed a dagger into the guts of the American work ethic.

[sneakypete]

Wrong. Entirely wrong-headed.

The thing you ain't figured out yet is that When your guy leaves office and the next democrat gets in office, They'll have even more government to beat you with.

 

@roamer-1

The thing YOU haven't figured out yet is not only don't I  have a "guy",but I don't expect ANY politician to take office and change things in just one term. This crap didn't happen in one term,and it won't be replaced in one term.

Nor will your "perfect world" EVER be created because you will NEVER be satisfied unless your dogma becomes the official language of the party in power,and that will NEVER happen because we are,and I SINCERLY hope we remain a Democratic Republic,and not a police state.

In FACT,the challenge at this moment is to PREVENT America from becoming a globalist police state,and we are NOT going to be  able to do  that is people sit at home on their asses and refuse to vote because THEY don't think any of the candidates deserve their votes.

Kinda like an 8 year old child holding  his breath until his face turns blue unless he gets his way.

This is part of the reason why Trump is the ideal candidate,even though he is rich.

The ONLY  thing Trump cares about is how he is written about in the history books,and he clearly wants to go down in history as "the President that saved America."

The FACT that he can only serve ONE term is icing on top  of the cake because he won't even office and start campaigning for re-election on the first day.

Him getting elected gives us 4 years to find a suitable replacement who is more concerned with saving America that he or she  is in anything else.

No,there is no  guarantee this will happen,but at least it gives us another 4 years to make up plans that will get more conservatives elected,and a slim chance IS  better than no  chance at all.

And finally,have you EVER in your entire life seen a Presidential candidate that scared the left even 10 percent  as much  as  Trump scares them?

BTW,you don't have to answer. I know  you disagree with everything I wrote

[sneakypete]

There have been plenty of conservative candidates run who have enough of a campaign out there that people can know that they are, in fact, conservatives.  And they just don't get enough votes.

We need to quit blaming that on the mysterious "them" and accept accountability that voters simply don't vote for them when given the chance.

@Maj. Bill Martin

I would REALLY love to argue with that,but...........

I really wish I had an answer to it because I honestly believe this upcoming election will be the last open election if Trump doesn't win and get a chance to start changing things.

It really is "now or never".

[roamer_1]

There have been plenty of conservative candidates run who have enough of a campaign out there that people can know that they are, in fact, conservatives.  And they just don't get enough votes.

...And plenty more the Republicans have stepped on. There will be no change until the Moderate wing is wrested from power. That's a fact.

We need to quit blaming that on the mysterious "them" and accept accountability that voters simply don't vote for them when given the chance.

Oh I am accountable. That's why I am a Republican no more. That's why I no longer contribute to RTL and NRA. That's why I quit listening to Limbaugh, and quit watching fox news. It's why I will not vote for Tumpy.

And I don't give a rusty sh*t if I'm the only one. I see they ain't any opposition. I have drawn hard lines. I demand way more than candy thrown from the clown at the front of the parade. I will not support the big rhinestone 'R'.

When y'all start leaning back toward Reagan and away from the Booshes, maybe we can come back together. But until I see vast change, and real opposition, I'll be going my own way, yelling against the phony Republicans all the way along. *SPIT* Useless.

[roamer_1]

@roamer-1

The thing YOU haven't figured out yet is not only don't I  have a "guy",but I don't expect ANY politician to take office and change things in just one term. This crap didn't happen in one term,and it won't be replaced in one term.

Sure you have a guy. You have been one of Tumpy's biggest fans, and anyone here will back that up. You always defend him.

And I don't expect it to be fixed in one term - Although the 94 Congress made huge gains in one political season. But I DO expect things to turn and go decidedly the other way - Which they are not. TUmpy did nearly nothing.

Nor will your "perfect world" EVER be created because you will NEVER be satisfied unless your dogma becomes the official language of the party in power,and that will NEVER happen because we are,and I SINCERLY hope we remain a Democratic Republic,and not a police state.

Nothing like that @sneakypete . I was perfectly happy to vote for Cruz. I was perfectly happy to vote for DeSantis - Both movers and shakers. Both elements of real change. I have money on Rosendale and Gianforte (MT state) right now. It is not that I cannot be satisfied. It is not that I am not participating - I am. I just won't help big government operatives on the Right *at all*, including Tumpy.

In FACT,the challenge at this moment is to PREVENT America from becoming a globalist police state,and we are NOT going to be  able to do  that is people sit at home on their asses and refuse to vote because THEY don't think any of the candidates deserve their votes.

Yeah, bullcrap. The challenge today is whether we will accept globalism from the Democrats in the form of becoming subsidiary to the UN, or if we will accept globalism through corporate entities with a thin veil of nationalism through the Republicans and Tumpy.

That's the fight, and I want NEITHER one. I am fighting BOTH.

Kinda like an 8 year old child holding  his breath until his face turns blue unless he gets his way.

This is part of the reason why Trump is the ideal candidate,even though he is rich.

A rich globalist and a hopeful progenitor of federal cities. At a cost of trillions. You cannot be that blind.
I want none of that.

The ONLY  thing Trump cares about is how he is written about in the history books,and he clearly wants to go down in history as "the President that saved America."

The FACT that he can only serve ONE term is icing on top  of the cake because he won't even office and start campaigning for re-election on the first day.

Him getting elected gives us 4 years to find a suitable replacement who is more concerned with saving America that he or she  is in anything else.

No,there is no  guarantee this will happen,but at least it gives us another 4 years to make up plans that will get more conservatives elected,and a slim chance IS  better than no  chance at all.

Blah, balh, blah. Unicorn farts and rainbows.

And finally,have you EVER in your entire life seen a Presidential candidate that scared the left even 10 percent  as much  as  Trump scares them?

BTW,you don't have to answer. I know  you disagree with everything I wrote

YES. The current governor of Florida.

[roamer_1]

Trump massively screwed the pooch with those Covid handouts.  Leftist governments used a lot of that money to expand their agenda, and a lot of it was just plain wasted.  We now have a country full of people who believe -- because of that shutdown experience and free money -- that we really don't need to work hard to have nice things.  If we just bitch and whine enough, the government can just hand it out.  And they believe that because they watched it actually happen for more than a year.

Donald Trump slammed a dagger into the guts of the American work ethic.

That's right. But more than that, the suspension of rights, the suspension of free trade, the destruction of small business... All terribly damaging to libertarian causes, not to mention the fiscal disaster.

[sneakypete]

Sure you have a guy. You have been one of Tumpy's biggest fans, and anyone here will back that up. You always defend him.

Are you actually brain-damaged from one of your falls? I KNOW I must have written WHY I am supporting Trump at least a dozen times,and never ONCE have I said that I am his fan,or even that I like him.

Trump is simply the best and ONLY option we have this election cycle.

And I don't expect it to be fixed in one term - Although the 94 Congress made huge gains in one political season. But I DO expect things to turn and go decidedly the other way - Which they are not. TUmpy did nearly nothing.

Nothing like that @sneakypete . I was perfectly happy to vote for Cruz. I was perfectly happy to vote for DeSantis - Both movers and shakers. Both elements of real change. I have money on Rosendale and Gianforte (MT state) right now. It is not that I cannot be satisfied. It is not that I am not participating - I am. I just won't help big government operatives on the Right *at all*, including Tumpy.

Yeah, bullcrap. The challenge today is whether we will accept globalism from the Democrats in the form of becoming subsidiary to the UN, or if we will accept globalism through corporate entities with a thin veil of nationalism through the Republicans and Tumpy.

That's the fight, and I want NEITHER one. I am fighting BOTH.

A rich globalist and a hopeful progenitor of federal cities. At a cost of trillions. You cannot be that blind.
I want none of that.


AND THERE IT IS! The "AH HATES RUDE RICH  ORANGE MANS!"

Blah, balh, blah. Unicorn farts and rainbows.

Yup,that is you,alright.

YES. The current governor of Florida.

No surprise you will support any opportunistic whore rather than see Rude Orange Rich Man get elected.

Of course YOU are right because you support DeSanctimonious ,and everybody else is wrong because they support Trump,huh?

[roamer_1]

Of course YOU are right because you support DeSanctimonious ,and everybody else is wrong because they support Trump,huh?

@sneakypete
On the record: YES
And the record does not lie.

[LMAO]

Trump massively screwed the pooch with those Covid handouts.  Leftist governments used a lot of that money to expand their agenda, and a lot of it was just plain wasted.  We now have a country full of people who believe -- because of that shutdown experience and free money -- that we really don't need to work hard to have nice things.  If we just bitch and whine enough, the government can just hand it out.  And they believe that because they watched it actually happen for more than a year.

Donald Trump slammed a dagger into the guts of the American work ethic.

Yup

And he was all too happy to do this. Insisted his name be on those checks. He also boasted about having to bail out the farmers harmed by his tariffs and claimed they should support him because of those checks. See the pattern? If a Democrat did this the same people making excuses for Trump would be howling at the moon

The things he did right, like the border for the most part, are gone. The things he did wrong, like what you outlined and inflation, are still haunting us today


Despite the insistence of his loyalists, Trump can be bought and bribed and quite easily. Look how quickly he changed his stance on Tik Tok just because someone flashed some money at him to do such. What else will he change his position on if the price is right?


The idea that Trump will get his four years and lay the groundwork for a conservative to follow him is pure nonsense . What’s more likely to happen is a Democrat would follow and that person would get a potential eight years. And it could end up being someone like Elizabeth Warren.

[LMAO]

@sneakypete
On the record: YES
And the record does not lie.

SP forgets that Trump was president once already and he has a tangible record we can weigh vs the fantasy he’s created in his mind

Here’s an article from Ann Coulter earlier this year that perfectly lays out the reality vs the fantasy many of Trump’s supporters have


https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2024/01/11/ann-coulter-the-actual-blindness-evangelicals-have-with-trump/amp/

[catfish1957]

Yup,that is you,alright.

No surprise you will support any opportunistic whore rather than see Rude Orange Rich Man get elected.

Of course YOU are right because you support DeSanctimonious ,and everybody else is wrong because they support Trump,huh?

[LMAO]

Similar to the left’s excessive use of the racism charge whenever they are losing the argument, he won’t part with what he believes works

It’s his version of the “race card”

[Maj. Bill Martin]

The idea that Trump will get his four years and lay the groundwork for a conservative to follow him is pure nonsense . What’s more likely to happen is a Democrat would follow and that person would get a potential eight years. And it could end up being someone like Elizabeth Warren.

Exactly.

There's a lot of things about Trump's policies that I don't like, but overall, his policies are likely to be better than Biden's.

The prioblem is that Trump greatly weakens conservatism and the GOP, while Biden actually strengthens it.  So if Trump's first term handed us over to Biden's hard left progressivism, what would a second Trump term give us?

[roamer_1]

SP forgets that Trump was president once already and he has a tangible record we can weigh vs the fantasy he’s created in his mind

Here’s an article from Ann Coulter earlier this year that perfectly lays out the reality vs the fantasy many of Trump’s supporters have


https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2024/01/11/ann-coulter-the-actual-blindness-evangelicals-have-with-trump/amp/

Ann Coulter is right.

And every attempt to justify Tumpy on the record necessarily fails. In the end his fans wound up with nothing in their hands. Except the expense.

This is why executive orders don't count. I've tried to explain that all the way along. I told em so. But apparently it is more important to shake their d**ks and a**es at the other side. Because that's all they got out of it, and they are coming back for more.

In the mean time, by every metric, the swamp GREW under Tumpy. Every liberal wet dream was financed by the federal government. Business and free trade destroyed. Locked down.

And they want more.

There ain't no tellin em.
They will defend it with emotion.
They have the bit in their teeth.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Ann Coulter is right.

And every attempt to justify Tumpy on the record necessarily fails. In the end his fans wound up with nothing in their hands. Except the expense.

There's that very long list of Trump's "accomplishments" that his supporters post occasionally to demonstrate what a great President he was.  But if you take the time the actually read it, most of it is just his speeches/comments, or claims that he "got tough" on something, which also are based only on his rhetoric.  His list of actual accomplishments is much, much smaller.

[roamer_1]

There's that very long list of Trump's "accomplishments" that his supporters post occasionally to demonstrate what a great President he was.  But if you take the time the actually read it, most of it is just his speeches/comments, or claims that he "got tough" on something, which also are based only on his rhetoric.  His list of actual accomplishments is much, much smaller.

I have said it before: History will not be kind to Tump.