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POTUS? in 2024

Trump- 100%
18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose
17 (14.7%)
Skip POTUS, and vote down-ballot
51 (44%)
Biden
4 (3.4%)
Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention
3 (2.6%)
3rd Party, including RFK, Jr.
10 (8.6%)
I'll probably be too stoned to vote
13 (11.2%)

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Voting closed: April 08, 2024, 02:03:54 pm

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #450 on: March 24, 2024, 11:46:50 am »
When it comes to Covid policy, deficit spending, expanding government, deporting illegals, and stopping election fraud, where is there any contrast between Biden and Trump?  At least with a DeSantis, you would have a clear choice when it came to stopping wokeness or reigning in government.

There would be a massive contrast between any red state governor, and Biden

Beyond the border and domestic energy production, the difference between Trump and Biden isn’t that great
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #451 on: March 24, 2024, 11:58:49 am »

 But when it comes to adults conversing, that pretty much ended after your first post.  Things weren't going your way, so you did what you always do - try to get the thread locked, this time directly insulting the admin/mods.  And you call that 'adult'?  Yeah, right.

When I saw his first post , that was my suspicion also. He saw things he didn’t like to read so the attempt was to try to get the thread locked. It was very transparent.

Despite their bluster, I think deep down, even his most loyal supporters know that when it comes to a lot of these issues we have when it comes to Donald Trump, they know we are right. They are just too proud to admit it. It reminds me of that scene in”Other People’s Money” were Gregory Peck and Danny DeVito are making their cases to shareholders. Peck is using an emotional arguments to plead his case while DeVito is outlining economics and facts. Peck begrudgingly knows DeVito is right but doesn’t admit it out loud


Politics is about debating issues and candidates and their records and proposals. Why some get upset about that is bizarre. This isn’t a liberal arts campus were people get to demand a safe space from viewpoints they don’t like to hear

For example, a couple posters here scoffed at the idea that the trillions of unbacked dollars printing during COVID  helped bring on the inflation we are seeing today. Fine. Then tell us why we are wrong

When someone used phrases such as “ this site used to be better” what they mean is “ I want an echo chamber.”
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #452 on: March 24, 2024, 12:03:49 pm »
@catfish1957

Your take on this poll on this board. Remember that this board was largely made up of people who were shown the door at another site because they weren't in the Trump camp. Any poll here would tend to be skewed as a result. You could actually say that Trump did better than expected in this TBR poll.

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Disgree...  well 90% of that claim.

Don't forget that in last week's Mini-Super Tuesday that Trump failed to capture (depending on state) 20-25% of the GOP electorate, voting for another candidate , or even grim.... "other".  This an entire week after Trump officially sealed the election, and easily at least a month when it was assured he wouldn't be stopped.  75-80% is dismal under these circumstances.

And in any group of conservatives, almost 2 in 3 refusing to vote for him?  Your comment may have some merit, but based on the sample size, I seriously doubt we have 63 NT's here.  I've have gone on record of saying that I am in the "Hold My Nose" camp.  But this vote is as much if not more in that criteria than even my 2008 vote for McCain, or 2012 for Romney.  I am that disgusted. 

And your point about people here being shown the door elsewhere?  That was 8 years ago.  Heck most of us have forgotten man details of even a year ago.  I stand by my analysis, and even this small sample size is indicitive of the larger problem Trump has with Conservatives.  But if you had read further, I did mention that Trump has expanded his base to the center.  I still think he has aa better than 50/50 chance to win.  But it will happen without the support of Principled Conservatives.

Saying Trump did better than expected in this poll, does not pass the "Red Faced Test". Any gathering of Republicans where its candidate gets  rebuked by 80% of particpants is proof of that.
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« Reply #453 on: March 24, 2024, 12:07:50 pm »
@AllThatJazzZ

Disgree...  well 90% of that claim.

Don't forget that in last week's Mini-Super Tuesday that Trump failed to capture (depending on state) 20-25% of the GOP electorate, voting for another candidate , or even grim.... "other".  This an entire week after Trump officially sealed the election, and easily at least a month when it was assured he wouldn't be stopped.  75-80% is dismal under these circumstances.

And in any group of conservatives, almost 2 in 3 refusing to vote for him?  Your comment may have some merit, but based on the sample size, I seriously doubt we have 63 NT's here.  I've have gone on record of saying that I am in the "Hold My Nose" camp.  But this vote is as much if not more in that criteria than even my 2008 vote for McCain, or 2012 for Romney.  I am that disgusted. 

And your point about people here being shown the door elsewhere?  That was 8 years ago.  Heck most of us have forgotten man details of even a year ago.  I stand by my analysis, and even this small sample size is indicitive of the larger problem Trump has with Conservatives.  But if you had read further, I did mention that Trump has expanded his base to the center.  I still think he has aa better than 50/50 chance to win.  But it will happen without the support of Principled Conservatives.

Saying Trump did better than expected in this poll, does not pass the "Red Faced Test". Any gathering of Republicans where its candidate gets  rebuked by 80% of particpants is proof of that.

IMO, should Biden lose, it’ll be evidence that the pro HAMAS wing of the party is stronger than we realize to the point that they refused to vote for Biden in places like Mich and Minnesota

Ever been to downtown Minneapolis? It’s Somalia of the north. BHO’s parting gift to America that just may bite Biden on the ass
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« Reply #454 on: March 24, 2024, 12:47:12 pm »
IMO, should Biden lose, it’ll be evidence that the pro HAMAS wing of the party is stronger than we realize to the point that they refused to vote for Biden in places like Mich and Minnesota

Ever been to downtown Minneapolis? It’s Somalia of the north. BHO’s parting gift to America that just may bite Biden on the ass

Biden's gift to BHO is completing his transformation of America.  Are you seriously paying attention to the number of ILLEGALS coming in and where they are taking hold?  Even the MSM is reporting that mostly those coming in are males in their mid twenties to thirties.  Expect an uprising, and yes Hàmas and other subversive groups are much stronger than most want to believe.
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« Reply #455 on: March 24, 2024, 12:52:24 pm »
Biden's gift to BHO is completing his transformation of America.  Are you seriously paying attention to the number of ILLEGALS coming in and where they are taking hold?  Even the MSM is reporting that mostly those coming in are males in their mid twenties to thirties.  Expect an uprising, and yes Hàmas and other subversive groups are much stronger than most want to believe.

Yet, all in all, BHO deported more people than Trump
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« Reply #456 on: March 24, 2024, 01:20:25 pm »
Yet, all in all, BHO deported more people than Trump
The country in general has had such an abrupt  left wing turn, I feel we are riding this car on two wheels.

Both candiates, IMO one,left of center.  The other- Socialist.
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« Reply #457 on: March 24, 2024, 01:25:06 pm »
Yet, all in all, BHO deported more people than Trump

Well, he had 8 years to do so right?

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« Reply #458 on: March 24, 2024, 01:31:03 pm »
Well, he had 8 years to do so right?

https://www.axios.com/2019/06/21/immigration-ice-deportation-trump-obama

By the numbers: Under the Obama administration, total ICE deportations were above 385,000 each year in fiscal years 2009-2011, and hit a high of 409,849 in fiscal 2012. The numbers dropped to below 250,000 in fiscal years 2015 and 2016.

Under Trump, ICE deportations fell to 226,119 in fiscal 2017, then ticked up to over 250,000 in fiscal 2018 and hit a Trump administration high of 282,242 this fiscal year (as of June).
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« Reply #459 on: March 24, 2024, 01:35:21 pm »
"And I actually know nothing  about Noem. I don't see how he could be a bigger scum  bag than DeSantis,so I probably would vote for him if there were no other  choice."
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"He" sure cleans up nice,doesn't he?

I DO need to remind you that I wrote that "I know NOTHING about him."

I think this proves it.

IF she is even semi-conservative,she would make a good VP running mate for Trump,though. She would absolutely lock up the wimmins vote. Even  the Bib Overall/flannel shirt Bitches would vote for that ticket to show solidarity wid de wimmins.

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« Reply #460 on: March 24, 2024, 01:39:59 pm »
@catfish1957

"He" sure cleans up nice,doesn't he?

I DO need to remind you that I wrote that "I know NOTHING about him."

I think this proves it.

Agree there.  You might want to research her a tad.  I consider her the Trump's front runner for VPOTUS.
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« Reply #461 on: March 24, 2024, 01:40:16 pm »
@catfish1957

"He" sure cleans up nice,doesn't he?

I DO need to remind you that I wrote that "I know NOTHING about him."

I think this proves it.

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Just a reminder: researching him was just a Google away.  wink777


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« Reply #462 on: March 24, 2024, 01:49:24 pm »
@Lando Lincoln

I think someone said that the voting was open to guests, so it could be leftist lurkers who voted for him.

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I guess what threw me is the summary of the poll. At this moment, it says:
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« Reply #463 on: March 24, 2024, 01:54:27 pm »
@catfish1957

"He" sure cleans up nice,doesn't he?

I DO need to remind you that I wrote that "I know NOTHING about him."



Well, we do live in a time were we are told that men can be women and vice versa so there’s that :shrug:

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« Reply #464 on: March 24, 2024, 01:56:21 pm »
@AllThatJazzZ

I guess what threw me is the summary of the poll. At this moment, it says:
Total Members Voted: 112

Good catch.  Didn't notice the "member" part of the summary.  Maybe someone famliar with the poll dynamics program  of the site might explain.  I don't think we have 112 active posters here, but I might be wrong.
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« Reply #465 on: March 24, 2024, 02:03:25 pm »
Good catch.  Didn't notice the "member" part of the summary.  Maybe someone famliar with the poll dynamics program  of the site might explain.  I don't think we have 112 active posters here, but I might be wrong.

   @catfish1957 I believe it was discovered many moons ago that a Guest could potentially skew the results of a Poll by using a VPN or clearing their browser cache.  I could be mistaken.  Management would have the answers.
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« Reply #466 on: March 24, 2024, 02:13:10 pm »
   @catfish1957 I believe it was discovered many moons ago that a Guest could potentially skew the results of a Poll by using a VPN or clearing their browser cache.  I could be mistaken.  Management would have the answers.

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I’m sure the poll can be skewed in such a way but the question is how to summarize responses by Member v. Guest.
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« Reply #467 on: March 24, 2024, 02:23:34 pm »
   @catfish1957 I believe it was discovered many moons ago that a Guest could potentially skew the results of a Poll by using a VPN or clearing their browser cache.  I could be mistaken.  Management would have the answers.


I can remember when "freeping" a poll was a common practice in our parts.
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« Reply #468 on: March 24, 2024, 02:26:18 pm »
I wish there were two votes allowed. I would have loved to also answer with the stoner option

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« Reply #469 on: March 24, 2024, 05:25:58 pm »
FWIW, I think this is very relevant to the current discussion on this thread.


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« Reply #470 on: March 24, 2024, 05:47:42 pm »
Most excellent post, @Bigun

Very pertinent to our discussion.

I picture Patrick Henry grabbing @roamer_1 by the neck and slapping the sh*t out of him.   :laugh:
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« Reply #471 on: March 24, 2024, 05:57:09 pm »

I picture Patrick Henry grabbing @roamer_1 by the neck and slapping the sh*t out of him.   :laugh:

I don't picture that at all @DCPatriot I picture Patrick respectfully but forcefully disagreeing with @roamer_1 just as he did the folks he was dealing with in 1775.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #472 on: March 24, 2024, 05:58:17 pm »
FWIW, I think this is very relevant to the current discussion on this thread.


https://twitter.com/tomgglass/status/1771753536482615516

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« Reply #473 on: March 24, 2024, 06:05:03 pm »
Yes, very relevant, the only difference is that they escaped to a new land.  We have no land to escape to.

And THAT Sir is what we call a very astute observation!
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« Reply #474 on: March 24, 2024, 06:36:35 pm »
Most excellent post, @Bigun

Very pertinent to our discussion.

I picture Patrick Henry grabbing @roamer_1 by the neck and slapping the sh*t out of him.   :laugh:

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