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POTUS? in 2024

Trump- 100%
18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose
17 (14.7%)
Skip POTUS, and vote down-ballot
51 (44%)
Biden
4 (3.4%)
Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention
3 (2.6%)
3rd Party, including RFK, Jr.
10 (8.6%)
I'll probably be too stoned to vote
13 (11.2%)

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2024, 11:37:42 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Please explain how you can have a total of 122% in a closed primary?  For that matter, in any "closed election"?    Thank you.

22% Haley, 3% other (all non-Trump).

22+3=25

Or you can work it this way: 100%-75% (Trump)=25% (not Trump)

Not sure how you got 122%
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2024, 11:43:23 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Please explain how you can have a total of 122% in a closed primary?  For that matter, in any "closed election"?    Thank you.

75% + 25% =100%

ETA:  I must admit that I did not word that very well....and I caused confusion.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2024, 11:45:33 pm »
The point is, in AZ Trump got 75%, and I was expecting more.   :shrug:
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #203 on: March 22, 2024, 12:39:14 am »
75% + 25% =100%

ETA:  I must admit that I did not word that very well....and I caused confusion.

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Okay...thank you.

Interpreted it to mean that DJT got 75% of the total votes...NH got 22%, so "Not for Trump" could only achieve 3% because "100%" equals total. 
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #204 on: March 22, 2024, 12:42:35 am »
I caused confusion.

WELL YOU GOTTA DO WHAT YOU'RE GOOD AT.  :tongue2:

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #205 on: March 22, 2024, 12:54:55 am »
Will remain in lurk mode so as not to ruffle your feathers

Yeah, right.


...if you will not acknowledge that Donald Trump is the ONLY choice to save our Republic from the path on which it is on....then you all need to get brain scans.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to call all of you out.   You're all unprincipled Conservatives pretending to be Patriots.

Yesterday, @Bigun wrote an excellent post touting the reasons he was voting for Trump.  Seventeen justifications as to why Trump was getting his vote - all of them positive, inciteful, convincing, and best of all truthful.

After reviewing them, I admitted to myself that his argument was quite admirable and openly applauded his efforts.  I found myself today thinking about those reasons, and was reconsidering my vote. I was coming around, thinking that maybe these positives outweighed the negatives.

And then I read your post.  You can be rest assured that your words have once again driven me about as far away from voting for Trump as I have ever been.  Thank you for restoring my sanity and keeping me from making a huge mistake.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #206 on: March 22, 2024, 12:55:58 am »
  We aren't exactly ahead in the game - right now the DEMS are winning and if they continue to win there won't be any coming back.



I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled up everything they've touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pitfalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #207 on: March 22, 2024, 01:02:09 am »
I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled everything they touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pifalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women

Perhaps you are independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing because you have a one way ticket out of here on a really nice remote island with a beautiful mansion on it stocked with food and a security detail to protect you.

The opposition is not made of super men and women; they have just drastically out maneuvered those who tend to vote more conservatively and law abiding citizens, by stealing an election and trampling on the Constitution and have absolutely not been held accountable for decades. 

It is now  Soros and Obama who are in control of this country and IMHO those that don't see the writing on the wall are only fooling themselves.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #208 on: March 22, 2024, 01:07:10 am »
You must be independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing because you have a one way ticket out of here on a really nice remote island with a beautiful mansion on it stocked with food and a security detail to protect you.

Lol

I'm just a hospital RN. You don't get rich doing that or own mansions on an island

I consider myself middle class
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #209 on: March 22, 2024, 01:12:28 am »
I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled up everything they've touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pitfalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women

Bitem stinks so damn bad, in all that Dems do, nothing but stink.
It's really saying something when Republicans can't offer something immediately and recognizably better.
This should be a cakewalk.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #210 on: March 22, 2024, 01:13:08 am »
You must be independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing

Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #211 on: March 22, 2024, 01:17:13 am »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #212 on: March 22, 2024, 01:24:56 am »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

Except in reality if the terrorists or other subversive groups that they are allowing into our country decide to strike or if Brandon decides to allow the UN to have emergency powers over the U.S. in a couple of months, we won't have to worry about debt as we won't have a country left.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #213 on: March 22, 2024, 01:37:28 am »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

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Ah yes. I see that getting so much better in a Biden (or Dem) administration.


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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #214 on: March 22, 2024, 01:40:39 am »
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Ah yes. I see that getting so much better in a Biden (or Dem) administration.

So you're saying that Trump is no different from Biden?
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« Reply #215 on: March 22, 2024, 01:45:03 am »
Except in reality if the terrorists or other subversive groups that they are allowing into our country decide to strike or if Brandon decides to allow the UN to have emergency powers over the U.S. in a couple of months, we won't have to worry about debt as we won't have a country left.

Meanwhile, we will pay more this year for interest on this debt than we will spend on our entire national defense.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #216 on: March 22, 2024, 01:55:18 am »
So you're saying that Trump is no different from Biden?

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No, and I'm a little concerned about your reasoning skills.  9999what


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« Reply #217 on: March 22, 2024, 01:57:41 am »
@Hoodat

No, and I'm a little concerned about your reasoning skills.  9999what

@AllThatJazzZ

You seem to be making the case that Biden running up trillions in debt is bad and that we shouldn't vote for him because of it.  Is that correct?
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #218 on: March 22, 2024, 01:59:59 am »
@AllThatJazzZ

You seem to be making the case that Biden running up trillions in debt is bad and that we shouldn't vote for him because of it.  Is that correct?

@Hoodat

I'm making the case that abstaining from voting for Trump on this issue doesn't improve the situation. If Biden/Dem gets in, it'll be worse.


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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #219 on: March 22, 2024, 02:06:03 am »
Yeah, right.


Yesterday, @Bigun wrote an excellent post touting the reasons he was voting for Trump.  Seventeen justifications as to why Trump was getting his vote - all of them positive, inciteful, convincing, and best of all truthful.

After reviewing them, I admitted to myself that his argument was quite admirable and openly applauded his efforts.  I found myself today thinking about those reasons, and was reconsidering my vote. I was coming around, thinking that maybe these positives outweighed the negatives.

And then I read your post.  You can be rest assured that your words have once again driven me about as far away from voting for Trump as I have ever been.  Thank you for restoring my sanity and keeping me from making a huge mistake.

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LOL!  Both @Right_in_Virginia and myself live in your head RENT-FREE!

Have such a power over you...you can't stand it.   You're such a child...somebody who allows another's personality and posting style to affect for whom you'll cast a vote.

....can't bring myself to vote for President Trump because RIV and DCP are such [fill-in-the blanks]

I get seconds of mirth imagining you in bed staring at the ceiling in rage...heart beating 90+ times a minute because we are rabid "Tumpy Fans"

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #220 on: March 22, 2024, 02:09:11 am »
@Hoodat

I'm making the case that abstaining from voting for Trump on this issue doesn't improve the situation. If Biden/Dem gets in, it'll be worse.

Adjusted for inflation, Trump ran up more debt than Biden.
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« Reply #221 on: March 22, 2024, 02:11:21 am »
Have such a power over you...you can't stand it.   You're such a child...somebody who allows another's personality and posting style to affect for whom you'll cast a vote.

Don't flatter yourself.  It is your propensity for non-rational persuasion that drives me away, not your personality or posting style.  Same old logical fallacies over and over again.  You never learn.  You are unteachable.
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« Reply #222 on: March 22, 2024, 02:14:38 am »
In 2028, the debt is estimated to be at 40 trillion. Forty trillion. You know the risk to the economy at that? We'll be printing money just to cover the interest, if we are not already

If you really want to save the republic, this is were it starts. This were "Make America great Again" starts. Fifteen trillion dollars in new spending on top of an unsustainable debt won't do it
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« Reply #223 on: March 22, 2024, 02:16:29 am »
Don't flatter yourself.  It is your propensity for non-rational persuasion that drives me away, not your personality or posting style.  Same old logical fallacies over and over again.  You never learn.  You are unteachable.

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We're not here to persuade you or anyone.

You've had EIGHT years to educate yourselves on what is a simple rudimentary binary choice for most anyone who could fog a mirror.

MAGA or Communism.

As @AllThatJazzZ recently suggested... YOUR reasoning skills are suspect.

edited to add...

Let me point out that this thread filled 4 pages from the date it began on March 8th.

Since @Right_in_Virginia and myself happened to enter the thread today, it's grown by 5 pages.

ROFL!   Happy trails!    :seeya:
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« Reply #224 on: March 22, 2024, 02:17:47 am »
In 2028, the debt is estimated to be at 40 trillion. Forty trillion. You know the risk to the economy at that? We'll be printing money just to cover the interest, if we are not already

We are.
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