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Trump- 100%
18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose
17 (14.7%)
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51 (44%)
Biden
4 (3.4%)
Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention
3 (2.6%)
3rd Party, including RFK, Jr.
10 (8.6%)
I'll probably be too stoned to vote
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #625 on: March 26, 2024, 01:28:34 am »
Oh boy… placeholder.

Just as Biden is a placeholder for Trump's second term?
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #626 on: March 26, 2024, 01:29:42 am »
Placeholder?  Perhaps at this point in time that's the best we may have going for us, but even at that, I believe it is more important to secure a majority in either the Senate or House.  Both would be quite an accomplishment.

@libertybele

First,the Republican candidate needs to win the WH. Without that power,we are fighting an uphill battle.

The truth is the only chance we have of saving America is having a Republican elected as President,AND having Republicans taking over the house and/or senate.

Not sure we can even do this,but it is the only chance we have of saving America.

Who knows? We MIGHT even get lucky  enough to have a  "new and unknown to most of us" Republican candidate spring forward before Trump leaves office,and organize a campaign that sees the old farts running for retirement to be replaced by "fresh blood" that has an agenda other than enriching themselves?

I am NOT saying this WILL happen,but anything is possible if the right events seem to just "click" at the same time.

Especially since so much of the Senate and House leadership is now composed of geezers that seem to be going senile.

The ONLY thing I am sure of it is "game OVER" if another Dim occupies the WH after the next election.

It sure would be nice to see conservatives take a commanding lead in the House and Senate,also.

Hey,if you are going to wish,wish BIG!
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #627 on: March 26, 2024, 01:34:37 am »
You do realize that the USS America sailed leftward during his last 4 years in office, right?  Never in my lifetime did I imagine people would be denied their livelihood for refusing to be injected with an experimental genetic program.

@Hoodat

Blah,blah,blah,blah.

Same old tired shit over and over and over. Trump had 4 years with the odds stacked against him and damn little support from the "ah hates him causin he bees rich and not wunna usins!" crowd doing virtually nothing to help him.

NO President can accomplish  much if his own party doesn't back him or her.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #628 on: March 26, 2024, 01:36:42 am »
Wouldn't have needed a damn 'placeholder' if y'all hadn't insisted on Tump.

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Ok,bubba,explain that to the rest of us,and try to not add any magical super heroes or creatures flying to your hero's aid from their office windows any time he is in trouble.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #629 on: March 26, 2024, 01:37:57 am »
... And we could have had DeSantis, who is driving Florida to the Right with a sledgehammer.

But no... 'placeholder'.  *****rollingeyes*****


@roamer_1

DeSanctimonious???????

ROFLMAO!

Yeah,another self-serving backstabbing little weasel would have really fixed things up,huh?

Just look at how well he did against the other candidates.

Didn't he come in last,with virtually nobody but his mama and his wife supporting him?
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #630 on: March 26, 2024, 01:47:01 am »
NO President can accomplish  much if his own party doesn't back him or her.

But Trump did accomplish much.  He moved us further leftward.  And he added $8 trillion to the national debt.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #631 on: March 26, 2024, 01:49:41 am »
The so called “placeholder” doesn’t work

What will happen, and history supports this, if Trump wins, Democrats come back in the 2026 midterms and then  again in 2028. That Democrat in 2028 will get a potential two terms

The idea that a conservative will follow four years of Donald Trump is poppycock. Historically, with the exception of George Herbert Walker Bush following Reagan, the opposite party usually wins an open presidential election

What I mean is, after Eisenhower served two terms, Kennedy followed. After Clinton served two terms,GWB followed, then  BHO. Get the picture?

The two worst scenarios is Biden winning reelection with a Democrat Congress, and Trump winning the election with a Democrat Congress. In the case of Biden, he’ll get everything he wants. In the case of Trump, he’ll “compromise” with them on many issues vs oppose them. We’ve seen this already

In truth, the best case scenario is Biden re-elected  with a large enough GOP Congress willing to oppose him. One of the dangers of Donald Trump with a GOP Congress is that they would feel pressured to go along with some  of his nonsensical ideas or risk being primaried




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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #632 on: March 26, 2024, 01:49:56 am »
But Trump did accomplish much.  He moved us further leftward.  And he added $8 trillion to the national debt.

@Hoodat

Blah,blah,blah.

Same old tired Biden,over and over..

And here I was thinking he was elected to be the President,not the Maximum Dictator!

Do ya think that MAYBE Congress had just a LITTLE something ta do wid dat?

After all,last I heard,they are the ones that pass or reject spending bills.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #633 on: March 26, 2024, 01:52:16 am »

@roamer_1

DeSanctimonious???????

ROFLMAO!

Yeah,another self-serving backstabbing little weasel would have really fixed things up,huh?

So you would rather have a candidate with a proven track record of moving us leftward instead of a candidate with a proven track record of moving us rightward?

Oh, and again for the umpteenth time, when did DeSantis stab anyone in the back?  You keep tossing out this claim.  But each and every time, you fail to offer a credible explanation, especially since it has been pointed out to you multiple times that Trump turned on DeSantis long before he decided to join the race.  If anyone is a backstabber here, it is Trump.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #634 on: March 26, 2024, 01:53:48 am »
That’s the most disappointing.

Yes ma'am, it is. More so than Cruz. Two bulletproof Conservatives in a row. *SMH*

Placeholder.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #635 on: March 26, 2024, 01:53:53 am »
Do ya think that MAYBE Congress had just a LITTLE something ta do wid dat?

After all,last I heard,they are the ones that pass or reject spending bills.

Congress signed Trump's name at the bottom?  You might want to go back and re-read your Constitution.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #636 on: March 26, 2024, 01:54:58 am »
Yes ma'am, it is. More so than Cruz. Two bulletproof Conservatives in a row. *SMH*

Placeholder.

Even Mitt Romney ran to the right of Trump.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #637 on: March 26, 2024, 01:56:49 am »
@roamer_1

Ok,bubba,explain that to the rest of us,and try to not add any magical super heroes or creatures flying to your hero's aid from their office windows any time he is in trouble.

HIS RECORD belies every dang thing y'all say. His record. Nothing magical about that.

You insisted on a BIG(ly) government liberal. Well, now you got him.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #638 on: March 26, 2024, 01:58:18 am »

@roamer_1

DeSanctimonious???????

ROFLMAO!

Yeah,another self-serving backstabbing little weasel would have really fixed things up,huh?

Just look at how well he did against the other candidates.

Didn't he come in last,with virtually nobody but his mama and his wife supporting him?

Again. Record.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #639 on: March 26, 2024, 02:01:22 am »
The so called “placeholder” doesn’t work

What will happen, and we’ve already seen this, if Trump wins, Democrats come back in the 2026 midterms and then  again in 2028. That Democrat in 2028 will get a potential two terms

The idea that a conservative will follow four years of Donald Trump is poppycock. Historically, with the exception of George Herbert Walker Bush following Reagan, the opposite party usually wins an open presidential election.

After Eisenhower served two terms, Kennedy followed. After Clinton served two terms,GWB followed. Get the picture

The two worst scenarios is Biden winning reelection with a Democrat Congress, and Trump winning the election with a Democrat Congress. In the case of Biden, he’ll get everything he wants. In the case of Trump, he’ll “compromise” with them on many issues vs oppose them. We’ve seen this already

In truth, the best case scenario is Biden re-elected  with a large enough GOP Congress willing to oppose him. One of the dangers of Donald Trump with a GOP Congress is that they would feel pressured to go along with some  of his nonsensical ideas or risk being primaried

That's right... And more than that, with Tumpy controlling the RNC, kiss the ring or you get no money.
So I don't expect a gain in either house, and in fact, will probably lose seats.

I really want to be wrong about that.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #640 on: March 26, 2024, 02:02:29 am »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #641 on: March 26, 2024, 02:03:03 am »
So you would rather have a candidate with a proven track record of moving us leftward instead of a candidate with a proven track record of moving us rightward?

Oh, and again for the umpteenth time, when did DeSantis stab anyone in the back?  You keep tossing out this claim.  But each and every time, you fail to offer a credible explanation, especially since it has been pointed out to you multiple times that Trump turned on DeSantis long before he decided to join the race.  If anyone is a backstabber here, it is Trump.

It's all bullcrap. He can't back it up. Proven over and over.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #642 on: March 26, 2024, 02:04:35 am »
Even Mitt Romney ran to the right of Trump.

No kidding.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #643 on: March 26, 2024, 02:39:54 am »
So you would rather have a candidate with a proven track record of moving us leftward instead of a candidate with a proven track record of moving us rightward?

Oh, and again for the umpteenth time, when did DeSantis stab anyone in the back?  You keep tossing out this claim.  But each and every time, you fail to offer a credible explanation, especially since it has been pointed out to you multiple times that Trump turned on DeSantis long before he decided to join the race.  If anyone is a backstabber here, it is Trump.

@Hoodat

Blah,blah,"ebil rude rich  man",blah.

Play another tune.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #644 on: March 26, 2024, 02:41:12 am »
Congress signed Trump's name at the bottom?  You might want to go back and re-read your Constitution.


@Hoodat

Ahhh,so US Presidents are dictators!

I had no idea.

What is it again that Congress does????????
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #645 on: March 26, 2024, 02:42:11 am »
@Hoodat

Blah,blah,"ebil rude rich  man",blah.

Play another tune.

See? The record doesn't matter a whit!
It's all about the rainbows and unicorn farts.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #646 on: March 26, 2024, 02:43:24 am »
Blah,blah,blah.

Same old "Evil Rude Rich Man" jealous nonsense over and over,no matter HOW you try to hide it.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #647 on: March 26, 2024, 02:54:56 am »
Blah,blah,blah.

Same old "Evil Rude Rich Man" jealous nonsense over and over,no matter HOW you try to hide it.

Nothing like that. Look_at_the_effin record.

You can't stack Tumpy against DeSantis in Conservative terms.
The guy is beating the crap out of the left. Beating the crap outta the woke. Restoring proper governance, Reducing the cost of government... Right down the damn line.

Tumpy's done nothing but move the federal government to the LEFT. Made it bigger. Gave it more power. and then handed it to the Democrats. And all it cost us was twenty friggin trillion bucks.

There just ain't no comparison.

On the record.
BIG mistake.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #648 on: March 26, 2024, 03:46:41 am »
To be certain, the damage from another Biden term will be difficult if not impossible to repair.  We needed a serious voice to counter his class warfare nonsense, a disciplined campaigner who was not beset with personal scandals, and someone who could put forth a positive vision for the next generation of voters.  Instead the republicans were bamboozled by a geriatric cartoon character, a man who thinks his sons should mutilate African leopards because it's covered by the second amendment.  The dems have problems of their own, but not like ours.  Even at this stage one can detect a tinge of panic setting in amongst Trump's core supporters, demanding we bail them out of their selection.  Well, I'm sorry folks.


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« Reply #649 on: March 26, 2024, 06:43:06 am »
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To be certain, the damage from another Biden term will be difficult if not impossible to repair.  We needed a serious voice to counter his class warfare nonsense, a disciplined campaigner who was not beset with personal scandals, and someone who could put forth a positive vision for the next generation of voters. 

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Instead the republicans were bamboozled by a geriatric cartoon character, a man who thinks his sons should mutilate African leopards because it's covered by the second amendment.  The dems have problems of their own, but not like ours.  Even at this stage one can detect a tinge of panic setting in amongst Trump's core supporters, demanding we bail them out of their selection.  Well, I'm sorry folks.



Blah,blah,blah,blah.

Rude Rich  Orange Man
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