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Trump- 100%
18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose
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Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention
3 (2.6%)
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I'll probably be too stoned to vote
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2024, 01:44:49 pm »
Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on March 10, 2024, 01:40:46 pm
Silly boy! You can't do it alone.  :tongue2:

I personally disagree with your convictions, but that's fine. I'm at the end of my life. I have no kids of my own. Just by virtue of my age, I won't be here to watch America crumble that much longer. I do feel terrible for the subsequent generations, but they have participated in their own undoing by throwing their vote away. I'm choosing not to carry the worry of that anymore. You can't stand in the way of a country that's in the process of destroying itself. Permanently.

It is because I have grandchildren that I draw hard lines.
I will bring you back to Reagan and the welding together of the Conservative Coalition.
We only win when we stand together.
I honor that to this day.
And I will till I die.

Throwing fiscal conservatives and libertarians under the bus is throwing me under the bus.
And you want me to vote *FOR* that?
Not a single chance in hell.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2024, 01:52:09 pm »
Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on March 10, 2024, 01:40:46 pm
Silly boy! You can't do it alone.  :tongue2:

I personally disagree with your convictions, but that's fine. I'm at the end of my life. I have no kids of my own. Just by virtue of my age, I won't be here to watch America crumble that much longer. I do feel terrible for the subsequent generations, but they have participated in their own undoing by throwing their vote away. I'm choosing not to carry the worry of that anymore. You can't stand in the way of a country that's in the process of destroying itself. Permanently.

Other than two living sons (the youngest is 50) and no grands it's the exact same with me but I'll keep trying for as long as I have a heartbeat. @AllThatJazzZ
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2024, 02:17:14 pm »
Quote from: Jack Russell on March 10, 2024, 02:10:26 pm
2 here support Biden?  Seriously?

We have trolls here. Always have had them.

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2024, 06:19:24 pm »
Quote from: Jack Russell on March 10, 2024, 02:10:26 pm
2 here support Biden?  Seriously?

I set the poll to allow lurkers to vote.  That could include du lurkers.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2024, 06:32:22 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 10, 2024, 06:19:24 pm
I set the poll to allow lurkers to vote.  That could include du lurkers.

I hope that frosts their nutz.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2024, 01:12:45 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 10, 2024, 01:02:01 am
Look I hate the effin guy.  But I can't imagine another 4 years of dementia Joe hopped up on drugs to let his puppet masters ruin the country.



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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2024, 01:33:46 am »
@Kamaji - I recognized that thumb immediately!  So good to see you, sir.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2024, 01:44:06 am »
Quote from: Bigun on March 10, 2024, 03:13:58 am
Sad as it is, I think that is correct @AllThatJazzZ but I will be voting for Donald Trump never-the-less.

Me too.....can't let Pops back in to finish the destruction of the US
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2024, 02:52:49 am »
I don't like Trump, can't vote for him... but I'll be damn if I would vote for Biden. Wasn't me is all I am saying.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2024, 04:21:57 am »
I'm with Sighlass.  Our State has given all of it's electoral votes to a Democrat only one time since Eisenhower's second term.  Even went for Goldwater in '64.  So I don't think our votes will be missed.

Trump still has an opportunity to win my vote.  But I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2024, 10:03:49 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 11, 2024, 04:21:57 am
I'm with Sighlass.  Our State has given all of it's electoral votes to a Democrat only one time since Eisenhower's second term.  Even went for Goldwater in '64.  So I don't think our votes will be missed.

Trump still has an opportunity to win my vote.  But I'm not holding my breath.

If Trump wanted to win my vote, first he needs to admit his handling of COVID was wrong headed. I agreed with him when he restricted travel from China at the start of it but it went downhill from there. 
 
Then, he needs to come to terms with some kind of entitlement reform. Next, he needs to run a campaign based on the dire need to reduce the size of the federal government and why that’s better for freedom and prosperity. Next, tell me that you’re going to seek a Paul Vockler(sp) type for the Federal Reserve.

Dump the tariff nonsense. It didn’t work the first time he did it and it won’t work better the second time.

Oh, and admit the so called “Freedom Cities” was all a prank
What are the chances of even one of those I listed happening? Zilch
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2024, 03:07:33 pm »
I'd look into third party but frankly, at least back in 2016 (last time I considered that), that was actually worse than Trump Hillary.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2024, 03:26:50 pm »
Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on March 10, 2024, 01:31:27 pm
Riiiiiiiight. Because how much damage can the Dems do in a 4-year term?  :shrug:

I don't know, but I will no longer clean up behind the trumpers.  They have to start caring about secondary effects.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2024, 03:33:05 pm »
I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This is just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This will hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2024, 03:39:58 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 11, 2024, 03:33:05 pm
I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This wil hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.

Not surprising.

Name ONE actual Conservative principle that is served in this campaign that is not defied by the record.
Go ahead... I'll wait.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2024, 04:48:35 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 11, 2024, 03:33:05 pm
I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This is just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This will hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.

With every thread being post after post declaring Trump the Antichrist, that is not surprising....
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2024, 04:58:23 pm »
Quote from: Jack Russell on March 11, 2024, 04:51:14 pm
Outside of Trump's MAGA universe, he's not very well liked

True.  And I am not voting on Chief Pal.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2024, 05:30:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 11, 2024, 04:48:35 pm
With every thread being post after post declaring Trump the Antichrist, that is not surprising....

There is nothing new under the sun that can be said. Yet, we try.

Here is my “reality” (whatever that means): I am concerned about a Trump presidency but I fear a Biden presidency. In all probability, we will have one or the other. I pray this Republic can survive the next 4 years. I will not do anything to aid Biden.

So yes, I will vote Trump for a third time.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2024, 06:27:41 pm »
At this point in time, I’ll be voting down ticket. WAY down ticket as it appears our state has two icky options for governor.
On the bright side, the spend-happy state congressmen from my district are being challenged by some actual conservatives. Just because one lives in a “red” state, that does not mean it’s a conservative state.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2024, 06:45:19 pm »
Quote from: Jack Russell on March 11, 2024, 04:51:14 pm
Outside of Trump's MAGA universe, he's not very well liked

No, and he's had ample time to win people over. Well, I will say his minority appeal is shocking for a GOPer though. We'll see if they turn out for him.
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« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2024, 07:03:34 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on March 11, 2024, 05:30:35 pm
There is nothing new under the sun that can be said. Yet, we try.

Here is my “reality” (whatever that means): I am concerned about a Trump presidency but I fear a Biden presidency. In all probability, we will have one or the other. I pray this Republic can survive the next 4 years. I will not do anything to aid Biden.

So yes, I will vote Trump for a third time.

  :yowsa: Me too! In the hope that it will allow us to fight another day.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2024, 07:06:19 pm »
Quote from: deb on March 11, 2024, 06:27:41 pm
At this point in time, I’ll be voting down ticket. WAY down ticket as it appears our state has two icky options for governor.
On the bright side, the spend-happy state congressmen from my district are being challenged by some actual conservatives. Just because one lives in a “red” state, that does not mean it’s a conservative state.

We are cleaning house in Texas this year @deb below is an account of just one County but it's happening all over.


https://twitter.com/Davy1836/status/1767217153520947587
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2024, 07:19:23 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 11, 2024, 07:06:19 pm
We are cleaning house in Texas this year @deb below is an account of just one County but it's happening all over.


https://twitter.com/Davy1836/status/1767217153520947587

That was interesting!
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« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2024, 07:41:56 pm »
Politics should be run by average citizens IMO, NOT elites.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2024, 09:58:24 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 11, 2024, 07:41:56 pm
Politics should be run by average citizens IMO, NOT elites.

The mere idea of 'elites' is un-American.
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