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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2024, 07:40:36 pm »
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“I don’t think he’s going to win the presidential immunity case before the court.”

I vehemently disagree with you Mr. Gowdy! If trump loses that case this republic is fully done and over with. No future president will be able to effectively govern while being continually subjected to lawsuits from every quarter.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2024, 08:06:39 pm »
I vehemently disagree with you Mr. Gowdy! If trump loses that case this republic is fully done and over with. No future president will be able to effectively govern while being continually subjected to lawsuits from every quarter.

?? Is there a date set yet as to when they are supposed to rule on immunity??
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2024, 08:06:53 pm »
I vehemently disagree with you Mr. Gowdy! If trump loses that case this republic is fully done and over with. No future president will be able to effectively govern while being continually subjected to lawsuits from every quarter.

Gowdy is about the biggest imbecille we've ever had in Congress.  He  had Hitlery dead in the water on the server scandal, and fumbled the ball.  Why Fox gave him any relevancy is beyond me.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2024, 08:12:40 pm »
"Nation of Laws" - Which law is applicable to keep Trump off ballot?  NONE

The Congress and DOJ were unwilling to use due process to convict Trump at impeachment or at trial for insurrection.

Don't blame SCOTUS for the failures of Congress and DOJ to protect the US Consitution from enemies, domestic and foreign.

So much for your precious DC elitist "guard rails" and "institutions".

It will be up to the unwashed masses to deal with this Orange mess.

The only protection from tyranny is a vigilant, literate electorate.

Yeah, well, we don't have that.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2024, 08:15:01 pm »
?? Is there a date set yet as to when they are supposed to rule on immunity??

No...as they discussed this case on Fox they hope it is soon..lol
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2024, 08:21:15 pm »
Punting?  No.  The Constitution is the Supreme Law of our Land and the SCOTUS just ruled unanimously -- there is no punting and there is no Congressional action needed.
Didn't Congress act and fail...more than once to remove Trump by impeachment, though never once charging him with insurrection? I think once again Raskin has that bandage on his head tied too tight **nononono*

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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2024, 08:42:52 pm »
Maine secretary of state withdraws Trump ballot ban

Maine’s secretary of state on Monday withdrew her determination that former President Trump should be blocked from the state’s ballot under the 14th Amendment’s insurrection clause after the Supreme Court ruled in Trump’s favor.

“The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that individual states lack authority to enforce Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment with respect to federal offices,” Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows wrote in a modified ruling, obtained by The Hill. “Consistent with my oath and obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and pursuant to the Anderson decision, I hereby withdraw my determination that Mr. Trump’s primary petition is invalid.”

“As a result of the modified ruling, votes cast for Mr. Trump in the March 5, 2024 Presidential Primary Election will be counted,” Bellows continued.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4507071-maine-withdraws-trump-ballot-ban/
She kind of left out the part...because Trump was never charged with or convicted of insurrection.............except in the minds of liberal socialists.

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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2024, 10:04:43 pm »

https://twitter.com/repdarrellissa/status/1764771700615401592

Democrats announce bill to kick Trump OFF the ballot immediately after the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that he could be allowed to stay on: The left melts down over ruling and even calls for court to be DISBANDED

    The high court on Monday ruled 9-0 that only Congress, not Colorado, can ban Trump from the ballot and the former president must be reinstated
    Bill would 'revive legislation that we had to set up a process by which we could determine that someone who committed insurrection is disqualified'

By Morgan Phillips, Congress Reporter For Dailymail.Com

Published: 13:50 EST, 4 March 2024 | Updated: 14:26 EST, 4 March 2024

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13155877/Jamie-Raskin-bill-disqualify-trump-ballot-supreme-court.html
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2024, 10:17:08 pm »
I'm expecting that evil Joe starts to pack the Supreme Court -- he still has a DEM Senate majority.  There is no limits are magic number of justices in the Constitution -- one flaw -- and it could be a costly one right now.

The DEMS introducing a bill - but it would also be up for appeal??

IF Trump wins the nomination or possibly the WH I do anticipate that they refuse to certify the election, just like they accused the GOP of trying to get Pence to do.

Funny how the shoe is now on the other foot and the DEMS are having an absolutely meltdown.

I'm tempted now to vote Trump just on principle.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2024, 10:23:07 pm »

I'm tempted now to vote Trump just on principle.

FWIW to you, I think that's the right thing to do. My super Tuesday vote is in already and I'll vote for him again in November.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #85 on: March 04, 2024, 10:25:40 pm »

I'm tempted now to vote Trump just on principle.
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #86 on: March 04, 2024, 10:29:45 pm »
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.

 :yowsa: Well said!
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2024, 12:02:51 am »
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It's 9-0 that Colorado can't disqualify Trump.
But only five justices hold that the *only* way to enforce Section 3 against federal officeholders/officeseekers is through a statute enacted by Congress. The other four wouldn't (and don't) reach that question.
So 5-4 on breadth.
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The Barrett concurrence and the joint Sotomayor/Kagan/Jackson concurrence all insist that they would've stopped with barring a state from disqualifying a presidential candidate.
That's why it's a 5-4 ruling with respect to the scope of the holding.
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The four not in the majority essentially are saying that a federal court convicting someone of rebellion/insurrection might be able to impose that penalty, not just Congress.

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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2024, 12:06:43 am »
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.

Although the court ruled correctly in his favor regarding the Colorado case, Trump would still be an economic and fiscal train wreck waiting to happen if he were to be re elected president
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2024, 12:41:28 am »
Although the court ruled correctly in his favor regarding the Colorado case, Trump would still be an economic and fiscal train wreck waiting to happen if he were to be re elected president



Absolutely. But that doesn't negate the fact that the SC ruled correctly.

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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2024, 12:55:43 am »
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.
So it appears. Or at least having someone capable of walking behind the podium...
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2024, 02:08:11 am »
The decision:

Trump v. Anderson
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« Reply #93 on: March 05, 2024, 02:10:54 am »
Here's how the the opinion of Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson starts out.  Paragraph 2:

Today, the Court departs from that vital principle, deciding not just this case, but challenges that might arise in the future. In this case, the Court must decide whether Colorado may keep a Presidential candidate off the ballot on the
ground that he is an oathbreaking insurrectionist and thus
disqualified from holding federal office under Section 3 of
the Fourteenth Amendment.

Gee, no bias there.
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« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2024, 02:21:24 am »
So it appears. Or at least having someone capable of walking behind the podium...

A mighty low bar.

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« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2024, 03:14:01 am »
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.

Yes, very well stated.  I'm just not so confident that Trump will deliver like people assume that he will.  He has had a tendency of not doing what he says in the past. He has nothing to restrain him as he won't be rallying to serve another four years.

What keeps lurking in the back of my mind and I can't help but question if there is still the possibility that he could in the end wind up being part of the swamp; thus perhaps him wanting retribution is on the swap creatures that betrayed him. I honestly have my doubts about him. He's gone after conservatives and against the principles of conservatism twice in campaigning; Cruz and DeSantis. How can that not be questioned or at least taken into consideration before casting a vote for him especially since one of his VP picks is quite a liberal, turned independent to campaign for Bernie Sanders of all people?

There's just too much ambiguity surrounding Trump.  There is about 8 months till election day and a lot can still happen. If I pull that lever for Trump I have to be more confident in doing so.  Pulling that lever on principle alone?  I'm tempted but not yet convinced it's the right choice.

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« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2024, 03:20:47 am »
I'm tempted now to vote Trump just on principle.

I feel that pull every once in a while.  But then someone like @Right_in_Virginia or @DCPatriot shows up and reinforces why I don't want to vote for him.
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2024, 04:04:48 am »
A lot of people are saying that. Even people who do not like Trump (including some minorities) will vote for him just because of how the Democrats have persecuted him. The Democrats are making Trump the person a secondary issue.

A vote for Trump has become a vote against a corrupt government and a corrupt judicial system. A vote for Trump has evolved into a vote against tyranny and totalitarianism.

Yet it remains an emotional vote. Not a logical one.

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« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2024, 12:48:44 pm »
Yet it remains an emotional vote. Not a logical one.

And that also has consequences
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Re: JUST IN: Supreme Court Sets Unusual Opinion Release For Monday Morning
« Reply #99 on: March 05, 2024, 01:58:43 pm »
Conway: SCOTUS Reverse on Trump Ballot Ban Incoherent, ‘Shoddy Legal Work All Around’

Attorney George Conway said Monday on CNN’s “The Source” that the Supreme Court unanimously overturning a Colorado Supreme Court ruling that disqualified former President Donald Trump from the ballot was “shoddy legal work all around by all the justices.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/03/04/conway-scotus-reverse-on-trump-ballot-ban-incompetent-shoddy-legal-work-all-around/
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