For the first time in my life, I’m now beginning to think Britain is finished

[rangerrebew]

 For the first time in my life, I’m now beginning to think Britain is finished
Story by Allister Heath  •
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Britain’s decline over the past 25 years has been staggeringly rapid. Almost everything is getting worse, and almost nothing is getting better. Our public and private institutions are broken, presided over by an incompetent, selfish and narcissistic ruling class. Living standards, when adjusted properly for living and property costs, are declining.
 
Even the simplest things don’t work any longer. Queuing, scarcity and congestion are rife, our infrastructure is embarrassingly poor, and the honest and hardworking face endless bureaucratic battles to obtain what they are due. Free riding, crime, disorder, fraud, littering and generalised rule-bending are rife, and all too often tolerated by apathetic citizens and an indifferent state. Britain’s residual virtues, our individualism, independence of mind, tolerance and openness, uniquely appealing features of our national character, are fading.

Like a frog in boiling water, few saw the full scale of the decline coming until it was too late, and those who did were ridiculed by the bien-pensant. Yet even in 2024, when millions now realise that Britain is on the wrong track, there is no hope of meaningful improvement. The Tories have been abysmal, but Labour will be even worse: Keir Starmer will double down on the social-democratic and culturally nihilistic policies tested to destruction by the Conservatives.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-in-my-life-i-m-now-beginning-to-think-britain-is-finished/ar-BB1ihC2l?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=966fc446512a4a3883112b3be2fc6b79&ei=27

[rustynail]

Americans sent the brits their personal firearms to repel a German invasion.  They threw them in the sea. 

No sympathy.

[mountaineer]

Few Western European nations are not "finished," thanks to their bowing to the gods of wokeness and refusal to control immigration.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Britain's former colonies are getting their revenge.

[Fishrrman]

London, 2060:
Calcutta with Big Ben and London Bridge (falling down)...

[libertybele]

Few Western European nations are not "finished," thanks to their bowing to the gods of wokeness and refusal to control immigration.

Sadly, very true.

[Sighlass]

Americans sent the brits their personal firearms to repel a German invasion.  They threw them in the sea. 

No sympathy.

Well crapola on a cracker, I didn't know that tidbit... but it seems it happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Committee_for_the_Defense_of_British_Homes

@rustynail thanks for the history lesson.

[Sighlass]

Poland seems to be the only unwoke European country left... but they are surrounded by stupid.

[Bigun]

London, 2060:
Calcutta with Big Ben and London Bridge (falling down)...

He wasn't the only one!

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americans... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of it continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities.”

 Theodore Roosevelt October 12, 1915

What he said there applies to Great Britian every bit as much as it does to America.

[sneakypete]

I knew GB was OVER when a Muslim was elected to be the Mayor of London.

[mountaineer]

London Mayor Sadiq Khan has blocked a statue of the late Queen going up in Trafalgar Square so that 'art' will appear instead. The first six month exhibit will be casts of the faces of 850 cross-dressing prostitutes

https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1758759377559859274

[sneakypete]

I am guessing he is NOT  devout Muslim,but a different type  of nut case?

Are we to believe the typical British citizen is fine with this?

[libertybele]

I am guessing he is NOT  devout Muslim,but a different type  of nut case?

Are we to believe the typical British citizen is fine with this?

...and the average British citizen is going to stop them how???

Same situation we find ourselves with the DEMS - - they push until they get what they want and if no one pushes back - bonus -- they easily get what they want. The heck with the rule of law.  Ignoring it, abusing it and ruling against it is how they continue to win. 

[sneakypete]

...and the average British citizen is going to stop them how???

@libertybele

I don't know. I know  next to nothing about the British political system.

Same situation we find ourselves with the DEMS - - they push until they get what they want and if no one pushes back - bonus -- they easily get what they want. The heck with the rule of law.  Ignoring it, abusing it and ruling against it is how they continue to win.

We are in agreement on this.

[libertybele]

I could easily say the same thing about the U.S.A.  "For the first time in my life, I'm now beginning to think that America is finished".

Our borders remain open and we've turned into a Banana Republic.

[sneakypete]

I could easily say the same thing about the U.S.A.  "For the first time in my life, I'm now beginning to think that America is finished".

Our borders remain open and we've turned into a Banana Republic.

@libertybele

The fact that a non-career politician (Trump) is running for President and SEEMS likely to be the ultimate winner even with the DNC adding non-existent voters and their votes to the total is the only thing that gives me any hope at all.

Trump might not be successful at saving America even if he is elected,but he IS the only  one running that seems to be interested in trying.

[catfish1957]

@libertybele

The fact that a non-career politician (Trump) is running for President and SEEMS likely to be the ultimate winner even with the DNC adding non-existent voters and their votes to the total is the only thing that gives me any hope at all.

Trump might not be successful at saving America even if he is elected,but he IS the only  one running that seems to be interested in trying.

I can remember when many of us 20-25 years ago were railed as tin-foil hatters when we prognosticated NWO applications.  No doubt, all the the dots are now connecting.With the help of climate change whackos, WEF Globalist, and foorced wealth redistribution to the 3rd world, the pace toward that end result is accelerating.

I am not a Trump supporter, but more and more I am leaning toward viewing him as at least a speed bump, to at least give us time, to turn the ship around.  He's still a POS, but the alternative will lead to our rapid demise.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

The fact that a non-career politician (Trump) is running for President and SEEMS likely to be the ultimate winner even with the DNC adding non-existent voters and their votes to the total is the only thing that gives me any hope at all.

Trump might not be successful at saving America even if he is elected,but he IS the only  one running that seems to be interested in trying.

Stop right there @sneakypete  Let's take a look at reality.  How on earth do you expect him to be the nominee? 91 felony charges against him.  He has more pending charges against him.  They've ordered that he and his sons can't run their businesses for a couple of years, so where is he going to get $$$$??  The RNC is way behind in fund raising in comparison to the DEMS so his running is going to drastically hurt those trying to win down ballot. Sorry, but him milking the RNC for legal fees and hurting down ballot candidates is not setting well with me.

Yes, it has become a matter of principle because of what these jackalopes are doing to him, but again, and I repeat, the ONLY way that we save this country is if a conservative is seated in the WH.  We're going to be left with Haley.  That's who the GOPe wants period.

You need to realize what is going on -- obviously they are not going to let him near the WH.  He may indeed miraculously be the GOP nominee but that doesn't mean he's going to win the election -- they are doing everything they can now to stop him financially and to stop him from campaigning.  He has more court dates that align with Super Tuesday. 

If all fails, the leftists WILL steal another election.  Again, how do you expect Trump to be seated???

(IF he is already the presumed nominee -- then why is he still campaigning other than to pay for his legal fees??   )

[Bigun]

I can remember when many of us 20-25 years ago were railed as tin-foil hatters when we prognosticated NWO applications.  No doubt, all the the dots are now connecting.With the help of climate change whackos, WEF Globalist, and foorced wealth redistribution to the 3rd world, the pace toward that end result is accelerating.

I am not a Trump supporter, but more and more I am leaning toward viewing him as at least a speed bump, to at least give us time, to turn the ship around.  He's still a POS, but the alternative will lead to our rapid demise.

Exactly where I find myself. That, along with the FACT that I will not abide stolen elections, is why I will vote for Trump this year regardless of what lawfare bastards, courts, and the media do.

[sneakypete]

I can remember when many of us 20-25 years ago were railed as tin-foil hatters when we prognosticated NWO applications.  No doubt, all the the dots are now connecting.With the help of climate change whackos, WEF Globalist, and foorced wealth redistribution to the 3rd world, the pace toward that end result is accelerating.

I am not a Trump supporter, but more and more I am leaning toward viewing him as at least a speed bump, to at least give us time, to turn the ship around.  He's still a POS, but the alternative will lead to our rapid demise.

@catfish1957

YUP!

[sneakypete]

Stop right there @sneakypete  Let's take a look at reality.  How on earth do you expect him to be the nominee? 91 felony charges against him.  He has more pending charges against him.  They've ordered that he and his sons can't run their businesses for a couple of years, so where is he going to get $$$$??  The RNC is way behind in fund raising in comparison to the DEMS so his running is going to drastically hurt those trying to win down ballot. Sorry, but him milking the RNC for legal fees and hurting down ballot candidates is not setting well with me.

Yes, it has become a matter of principle because of what these jackalopes are doing to him, but again, and I repeat, the ONLY way that we save this country is if a conservative is seated in the WH.  We're going to be left with Haley.  That's who the GOPe wants period.

You need to realize what is going on -- obviously they are not going to let him near the WH.  He may indeed miraculously be the GOP nominee but that doesn't mean he's going to win the election -- they are doing everything they can now to stop him financially and to stop him from campaigning.  He has more court dates that align with Super Tuesday. 

If all fails, the leftists WILL steal another election.  Again, how do you expect Trump to be seated???

(IF he is already the presumed nominee -- then why is he still campaigning other than to pay for his legal fees??   )

@libertybele

To sum it up,your opinion is that "America is over because we can't win,so why even try?"

I seem to recall a term from a few years back with the title "Surrender Monkey".

"Oh,woe is me! Ahm not agonna win,so why try?"

[libertybele]

@libertybele

To sum it up,your opinion is that "America is over because we can't win,so why even try?"

I seem to recall a term from a few years back with the title "Surrender Monkey".

"Oh,woe is me! Ahm not agonna win,so why try?"

???? @sneakypete you didn't answer my questions. Secondly, it's not a matter of surrendering but rather realizing what your are doing to win isn't working and to implement another plan of action.  As the saying goes, you've got to realize when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.

It is foolish to keep doing the same things that have failed before or to run the same person who has failed before and to expect a different result.

[Hoodat]

We are right behind them....

Yep.

[mountaineer]

Oli London
@OliLondonTV
Around 21,500 Afghans have been given Asylum status in the UK since the troop withdrawal from Kabul in 2021.
Do you think these people will integrate with the culture and society of the UK?

https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1758885325718319188

[sneakypete]

???? @sneakypete you didn't answer my questions. Secondly, it's not a matter of surrendering but rather realizing what your are doing to win isn't working and to implement another plan of action.  As the saying goes, you've got to realize when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.

It is foolish to keep doing the same things that have failed before or to run the same person who has failed before and to expect a different result.

@libertybele

Which is why I  am voting for Trump.

Who  are YOU voting for?

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Which is why I  am voting for Trump.

Who  are YOU voting for?

That makes no sense.  You are voting for the same person who FAILED to build the wall and most of his other policies FAILED as well.  So, what you are saying is you are voting for someone who FAILED, expecting a different result.  I simply trying to understand your logic.

As of right now it appears that either Trump or Haley will be the nominee and I will not vote for either. I get that you are voting who you believe in.  Since there is no viable third party candidate that has emerged that I feel is a conservative, I will only be voting down ballot.

P.S.  Please don't hand me the crappola then I'll be voting for a DEM.  Nothing could be further from the truth. I am voting for conservatism and the principles upon which this country was founded; the lifeblood of our Republic.

[sneakypete]

That makes no sense.  You are voting for the same person who FAILED to build the wall and most of his other policies FAILED as well.  So, what you are saying is you are voting for someone who FAILED, expecting a different result.  I simply trying to understand your logic.

As of right now it appears that either Trump or Haley will be the nominee and I will not vote for either.

THAT will show them who the boss is!

P.S.  Please don't hand me the crappola then I'll be voting for a DEM.  Nothing could be further from the truth. I am voting for conservatism and the principles upon which this country was founded; the lifeblood of our Republic.

Blah,blah,blah. By NOT voting against the status quo,you are guaranteeing they  will win,so you might as well have voted for them to start with.

Sooo,when the globalist left wins  because you  and people like you  refused to vote for any other option,you need to be out in the street doing your little "superiority dance" with the leftist losers  you helped put into office.

[Mod2]

Please, let's stay on the topic of Britain's demise.

[mountaineer]

Another "Britain is finished" anecdote:

Police Threaten to Arrest Street Preachers Over ‘Hate Crime’ of Preaching Gospel
Protestia
Feb. 17, 2024

The UK continues to blossom into a hunting ground for tyrants, with law enforcement enforcing draconian laws designed to curtail free speech and, in some cases, freedom of thought.

Last week, two street preachers were confronted by several Metropolitan Police officers after a member of the public called in and accused them of hate crimes in the form of racism and homophobia, which caused them alarm and distress. ...

The street preacher insisted he wasn’t saying anything hateful, and recounted what he’d been speaking about:

    So we’ve been preaching about the gospel of Jesus Christ. The Bible says in the book of John, chapter three, verse 16, that For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only begotten son, that whosoever, that is any person, doesn’t matter if they’re black, homosexual, drunken, liar, thief, prostitute, whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

“For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but he sent his son into the world that all can be saved. And that is the message of the gospel. That’s what I’ve been preaching”.

Officers informed the preacher that he needed his name for their report because otherwise, if they didn’t get it, they would have “failed a potential victim” in the event they wanted to press charges. ...

[Free Vulcan]

They did it to themselves just like they are doing it in our cities here.

You vote for it, you eat it.

[sneakypete]

Another "Britain is finished" anecdote:Officers informed the preacher that he needed his name for their report because otherwise, if they didn’t get it, they would have “failed a potential victim” in the event they wanted to press charges. ...

@mountaineer

Have any  Muslims been arrested for promoting Islam?

One reason I ask is because the Mayor of London is a Muslim.

[mountaineer]

Have any  Muslims been arrested for promoting Islam?
One reason I ask is because the Mayor of London is a Muslim.

For the past few months in London and elsewhere in England, there have been acts of violence committed by Muslims against non-Muslims. There have been massive pro-Hamas demonstrations disrupting traffic and commerce. The government has taken a kid glove approach to dealing with Muslims who violate necessary laws, while going full bore after people for free speech and hate crime offenses.

[sneakypete]

For the past few months in London and elsewhere in England, there have been acts of violence committed by Muslims against non-Muslims. There have been massive pro-Hamas demonstrations disrupting traffic and commerce. The government has taken a kid glove approach to dealing with Muslims who violate necessary laws, while going full bore after people for free speech and hate crime offenses.

@mountaineer

Yeah,THAT can't last long OR  end well.

The British citizens will soon get tired of being 3rd class citizens in their own country,and rise up politically.

Maybe even rise up physically.

Seems like the people who are young adults today will end up "living in interesting times".

Geezers like me will just have to sit along the sidelines and cheer them on.

[jafo2010]

Quote from: libertybele on February 17, 2024, 02:32:55 pm
I could easily say the same thing about the U.S.A.  "For the first time in my life, I'm now beginning to think that America is finished".

Our borders remain open and we've turned into a Banana Republic.


from sneakypete...
@libertybele

The fact that a non-career politician (Trump) is running for President and SEEMS likely to be the ultimate winner even with the DNC adding non-existent voters and their votes to the total is the only thing that gives me any hope at all.

Trump might not be successful at saving America even if he is elected,but he IS the only  one running that seems to be interested in trying.

Trump the ultimate winner...hmmm....in your dreams.  2020 was fixed.  2024 will be more blatant, and there is no one that will resolve any questions asked, certainly not the spineless Supreme Court.  Once again, the Republicans will be like church mice.  Why?  Because they are the other half of the Uni-party.  The conservative Republican Party is dead, just like the republic they and the Democommies betrayed.

And all the old farts on this board are going to do what exactly?  Nothing.  And the folks under 45 who overwhelmingly believe in socialism will do nothing.  And all the dissenters, many who listen to Phil Godlewski, Charlie Ward, and ilk like that will be given false promises of the white hats (supposedly under Trump) rising up to right the wrongs...all poppycock.

As long as electronic voting exists, our republic will remain dead.  The only question remaining is, how long before we have totalitarian controls put in place for those that dissent?  And as long as George Soros owns the company that tabulates the vote in EVERY WESTERN NATION, do not hold your breath for honest and fair elections!!!!!!  Really!!!

And as long as the criminal thieves in Congress continue to spend us into DESTRUCTION, why any of you have hope is a mystery to me.  You think God is going to come down and save a people that won't help themselves from oblivion?  Please!!!

We are drunk on spending, on sterilizing as many in our population as can be made such, the huge genocidal destruction of our most vulnerable, the unborn, 70 million and counting, the complete destruction of the nuclear family and extended family, the destruction of the western culture with the unchecked illegal invasion of tens of millions into the USA and the legal insertion of hundreds of thousands of muslims into the USA annually with no commonsense understanding of how they intend to destroy this country.  Sh*t, we have NO GO ZONES in Michigan!!!!!!!!!!

Mark my words, the people that will come to hate Trump the most will be those faithful who believed he would be their savior, when all he will be is a lame duck of grand proportions.  No one will work with him.  NO ONE!!!

[Bigun]

Trump the ultimate winner...hmmm....in your dreams.  2020 was fixed.  2024 will be more blatant, and there is no one that will resolve any questions asked, certainly not the spineless Supreme Court.  Once again, the Republicans will be like church mice.  Why?  Because they are the other half of the Uni-party.  The conservative Republican Party is dead, just like the republic they and the Democommies betrayed.

And all the old farts on this board are going to do what exactly?  Nothing.  And the folks under 45 who overwhelmingly believe in socialism will do nothing.  And all the dissenters, many who listen to Phil Godlewski, Charlie Ward, and ilk like that will be given false promises of the white hats (supposedly under Trump) rising up to right the wrongs...all poppycock.

As long as electronic voting exists, our republic will remain dead.  The only question remaining is, how long before we have totalitarian controls put in place for those that dissent?  And as long as George Soros owns the company that tabulates the vote in EVERY WESTERN NATION, do not hold your breath for honest and fair elections!!!!!!  Really!!!

And as long as the criminal thieves in Congress continue to spend us into DESTRUCTION, why any of you have hope is a mystery to me.  You think God is going to come down and save a people that won't help themselves from oblivion?  Please!!!

We are drunk on spending, on sterilizing as many in our population as can be made such, the huge genocidal destruction of our most vulnerable, the unborn, 70 million and counting, the complete destruction of the nuclear family and extended family, the destruction of the western culture with the unchecked illegal invasion of tens of millions into the USA and the legal insertion of hundreds of thousands of muslims into the USA annually with no commonsense understanding of how they intend to destroy this country.  Sh*t, we have NO GO ZONES in Michigan!!!!!!!!!!

Mark my words, the people that will come to hate Trump the most will be those faithful who believed he would be their savior, when all he will be is a lame duck of grand proportions.  No one will work with him.  NO ONE!!!

@jafo2010 I sincerely wish there was something in your post that I could argue with but, try as I might, I cannot find it. Carry on.

[Mod2]

Please stay on topic

[mountaineer]

Some Brits get it.

John Cleese
@JohnCleese
This is fine comedy, and the laughter of an intelligent audience says everything
9:54 PM · Mar 18, 2024

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1769813585180430395

[Wingnut]

For the past few months in London and elsewhere in England, there have been acts of violence committed by Muslims against non-Muslims. There have been massive pro-Hamas demonstrations disrupting traffic and commerce. The government has taken a kid glove approach to dealing with Muslims who violate necessary laws, while going full bore after people for free speech and hate crime offenses.

Kinda like how Our Rat Run cities treated the BLM terrorists during the St George Riot season.

[LMAO]

Folks in this country assume other nations have free speech protections. They can’t comprehend that being vocally opposed to HAMAs can get you arrested in places like Britain and Canada

[Smokin Joe]

Poland seems to be the only unwoke European country left... but they are surrounded by stupid.

Add Hungary to your list. They don't want any Muslim "refugees", and have resisted the onslaught from the onset. Some 72% of the population remain opposed to taking on 'refugees'.