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No it's not. It's radio-telemetry.

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It sure is a medical procedure whether done on animal s or humans.

Kaiser Permanente sent me a bill for one in a mandatory post-op visit after prostate surgery recently.

They neglected to charge me the standard co-pay to have catheter removed by the nurse, but hit me for $100 for the ultrasound to verify the bladder was emptied after she filled it with saline solution.

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Exactly... Which ain't rocket science either.

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For the record, these two men are in jail for contempt of court, not for giving ultrasounds to cows.

https://interactive.fox43.com/pdfs/325-MD-2021-Courts-Rule-to-Show-Cause.pdf
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For the record, these two men are in jail for contempt of court, not for giving ultrasounds to cows.

https://interactive.fox43.com/pdfs/325-MD-2021-Courts-Rule-to-Show-Cause.pdf

Thanks for clearing that up.
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Methinks the ghost of sinkspur is wisping about in this thread.

(by the way, what ever happened to that guy? Did he leave on his own... or...?)

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Methinks the ghost of sinkspur is wisping about in this thread.

(by the way, what ever happened to that guy? Did he leave on his own... or...?)

I think he was expelled with cause. I forgot the details...

I also seem to remember him getting busted for claiming he was someone/something he wasn't.
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Methinks the ghost of sinkspur is wisping about in this thread.

(by the way, what ever happened to that guy? Did he leave on his own... or...?)

Nah not shik.  But he is a retread.  Hench the user name.  His posting style reminds me of a pissant from Verona WI who has banned 5 years ago...Once-Ler
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I think these two guys stepped on somebody's toes. And I don't mean vets. I get that you can be jailed for contempt, no matter how bogus the charge, but no bail? Really?

As far as ultrasound, if it's against the law that's goofy. These guys own their livestock, or they have customers that do. They are not being starved, mistreated in any way. The "old way" of determining pregnancy was far more invasive. Generally the cow was very resistant. And it could cause the cow to abort...or cause the examiner serious harm.

As stated upthread (@polly tics maybe?) it's regular practice to pull a calf if need be. That is a "medical procedure" that has been in practice since the beginning of time.

I guess I've been lucky all these years. I've done countless "medical procedures" on cows, horses, cats and dogs. I only go to the vet if it's beyond my capability. Sheesh! I could have been in prison. :rolling:

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Nah not shik.  But he is a retread.  Hench the user name.  His posting style reminds me of a pissant from Verona WI who has banned 5 years ago...Once-Ler

No way. I liked Once-Ler. I thought he simply left.

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As stated upthread (@polly tics maybe?) it's regular practice to pull a calf if need be. That is a "medical procedure" that has been in practice since the beginning of time.

I guess I've been lucky all these years. I've done countless "medical procedures" on cows, horses, cats and dogs. I only go to the vet if it's beyond my capability. Sheesh! I could have been in prison. :rolling:

#metoo.  :laugh:

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No way. I liked Once-Ler. I thought he simply left.

The posting styles and defensive attitude are very similar.  Gibbs rule #39 for me.
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For the record, these two men are in jail for contempt of court, not for giving ultrasounds to cows.

https://interactive.fox43.com/pdfs/325-MD-2021-Courts-Rule-to-Show-Cause.pdf

What exactly is the contempt?  Failure to pay the Purge?  Interesting....
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Farmers also give injections to their livestock on a regular basis. To the gaol with you!
Not to mention the midwifery that goes on pulling calves...
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My Lord, what rock do you folks crawl out from under?

SO you would have no problem with an unlicensed/untrained ultrasound person doing an ultrasound on your wife's possible breast cancer diagnosis or a lump in your child  stomach or a lump on your right testicle?

People every day are thrown in jail for performing medical treatments without  a license and they should be.

Those two yahoo farmers were told to stop and they didn't is why their arses were thrown in jail.
I suppose they could just reach in there arm deep and feel around instead of bouncing a few sound waves around and finding out. How do you feel about ranchers pulling calves? sewing up cuts? removing horns? branding? turning little bulls into steers?
Quit assuming farmers are ignorant hicks.

And instead of implying their or our wives are 'cows', recognize that no one is proposing human doctors be replaced with the local rancher, but from what I saw during COVID, my bets are on the guy who gives a shit if the patient actually survives more than their insurance policy.

As for the cows, and their progeny, that's money to ranchers/farmers, but only if they live healthy lives, gain weight, and get to market. Believe me when I say they are not going to endanger the means of production, nor the product.
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