I started this thread about how the GOP in the senate insisted on something, didn't get it, so shot it down. They were played and we (who can't even win in Georgia) are going to lose more seats in the senate.
Yes, I don't want to discuss the law...anymore as nobody is disccussing anything....just prognosticating.
Your lead post indicates that you would rather talk about your perception of the situation instead of the facts of the situation. When one tries to introduce a premise with the word 'seems' (something liberals commonly do), it is clear they are offering that premise from an emotional standpoint than from a factual one. Also, the word 'we' is undefined. Not sure who the 'we' is that wanted it, but it certainly wasn't anyone here that I know of, at least those who understood the substance of what was being presented and the one praising it (Chuck Schumer).
Anyway, as for Rand Paul's comment, that is 100% accurate. For the last fifteen years or so, Congress has shown a propensity for introducing massive bills on the House or Senate floor that very few people have read, but then forcing a vote on it. That rang true for this bill as well. No, your Senators do not represent your State. They represent those who protect their jobs and their perks.
As for Trump, he came out in opposition only after House Speaker Johnson voiced his disproval over it, calling it "dead on arrival" (which btw was
13 days BEFORE you started this thread). So no, Senators aren't following Trump. It is Trump who is following Conservatives (for a change).
So to be clear, when you say things like "
Seems we can't do enough to shoot our selves in the foot, arse, and head.", it comes across to many here that your position is that the GOP should have voted in favor of it, thus giving Chuck Schumer everything he wanted, with Republicans getting nothing.
Why would our stupid senators:
1. Insist on tying this to Ukraine/Israel funding ?
2. Not insist on certain components up front, but cry about them when they didn't appear.
3. Openly encourage the bill (are they stupid enough to think the democrats would give them anything to be happy over ?).
4. Then walk into the ambush by shooting it down.
5. Especially after DJT shoots off his mouth.....do they like looking like stooges and lapdogs ?
BETTER to have never insisted in the first place.
By their own admission, they were doomed to fail.
1. Republicans aren't tying "this" to Ukraine/Israel funding. They are tying 'Securing the Border' to Ukraine/Israel funding. Big difference. Because there is NOTHING in this bill that secures the border. Nothing. But then you knew that already.
2. Not sure what components you are talking about here. But it is pretty clear from a bill that Chuck Schumer wrote that no such components would be offered.
3. Who (besides Democrats) encouraged the bill? Schumer is the one out there saying our sons and daughters are going to be heading to the battle field to fight Russia if this Border bill isn't passed.
4. That makes no sense. There was no ambush. Democrats put forth a vote. Republicans killed it on a failed cloture vote. And the Democrat media reports it kind of the same way you reported it in the lead post. Happens all the time.
5. Check your timeline. Trump voiced his opposition to this bill long before it got anywhere near the Senate floor.
Now, one question back to you. Can you give us the link where you posted this same "seems . . . seems . . . seems . . . Trump bad" post on DU? I will get a kick out of reading the responses. Thanks in advance.
