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Death sentence execution's should be more inhumane.
Well there was this guy who came up with somethin it's fast in action, but the trepidation between sentencing and execution..........

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Bullets are cheap. Stick 6 in him and be done.

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That is a waste of ammo. Shoot a guy once with a 5.56 nato round and they drop on the field, like a sack. Right there. Down and out.
I have never shot anyone 6 times. If that is what it takes to kill someone, you don't need a gun. You need a priest.

I meant your standard firing squad...

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Alabama tries out new execution method on convicted killer, witnesses claim it went horrifically wrong
January 26, 2024 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

As Kenneth Eugene Smith was executed slowly by nitrogen hypoxia for viciously murdering a woman, his wife cried out while he reportedly convulsed and thrashed.

Smith is the first person in history to be executed using this method according to the Daily Mail.

“Smith, 58, was put to death Thursday in a ‘horrific’ 22-minute ordeal when a gas mask was placed over his face, before a stream of 100 percent nitrogen gas suffocated him inside the execution chamber at the William C. Holman prison in Atmore, Alabama,” the Daily Mail reported.

“Aged 22, Smith was one of two men convicted in the murder-for-hire slaying of Elizabeth Sennett, 45, the wife of preacher Charles Sennet Sr. who hired the men to kill his wife in an insurance plot,” the media outlet noted.

Sennett was stabbed 8 times in the chest and once on each side of her neck in 1988. He was paid $1,000 for the hit. Despite the brutal nature of her murder, leftists lined up to bemoan the execution of her killer.

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It’s the method HE chose after a botched first-attempt. I’m sorry for the pain it caused his wife to be in attendance, but he’s a murderer. He offered his victim no recompense.
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It’s the method HE chose after a botched first-attempt. I’m sorry for the pain it caused his wife to be in attendance, but he’s a murderer. He offered his victim no recompense.
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 From his last words to the final horrifying spasm on his gurney, how America's first nitrogen gas execution saw killer Kenneth Smith thrash around while his wife wept during grisly 22-minute death in Alabama prison Daily Mail

8:39 AM · Jan 26, 2024

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From his last words to the final horrifying spasm on his gurney, how America's first nitrogen gas execution saw killer Kenneth Smith thrash around while his wife wept during grisly 22-minute death in Alabama prison Daily Mail

8:39 AM · Jan 26, 2024



This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard.  Nobody ever heard of "acting?"
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From his last words to the final horrifying spasm on his gurney, how America's first nitrogen gas execution saw killer Kenneth Smith thrash around while his wife wept during grisly 22-minute death in Alabama prison Daily Mail

8:39 AM · Jan 26, 2024


He suffered, oh the horror! Does anyone think he felt a fraction of the fear, pain and suffering of his victim?

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Meh.
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The virtue of nitrogen hypoxia is that unlike being suffocated in more normal ways (e.g. a pillow over the face or strangulation) it does not cause CO2 to build up in the bloodstream, and the horrible sensations associated with not being able to breath are part of the body's reaction to CO2 building up in the bloodstream. It should, thus, be a painless death even before the condemned convict loses consciousness.

Nitrogen hypoxia is a fear in industry.

We use nitrogen to do things like "inert" vessels where we don't want oxygen contacting reactive metal surfaces.

There have been several incicents where people have died from it.

According to the training we recieve,

You can be out on your first breath if the atmosphere has enough nitrogen in it.

You supposedly don't even know it.  You inhale, you are asleep.

Death soon follows.  No feeling whatsoever.

That is what makes it so insideous.

Famous case where a guy went back into a vessel that was inerted (or had not been "turned over") to retrieve a roll of duct tape sitting on top of a distribution tray.  Down a short ladder and he dropped immediatly.  Someone called on the radio and went in to rescue him with no SCBA.  They both died.

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He struggled for ten minutes? Either the N2 was contaminated with O2 or the mask had a really crappy seal. He should have been out from hypoxia in a maximum of two minutes, and even less if he was exerting himself.

Something here is bogus.
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Blindfold, cig, firing squad.

I don't understand the catering to how X murderer gets a choice in how they die. Not sure I would even provide a last meal request.
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Not sure I would even provide a last meal request.
That really is kind of strange. Here's some lobster and steak which you'll never even get a chance to digest. Now we're going to kill you. Bon apetit!
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That really is kind of strange. Here's some lobster and steak which you'll never even get a chance to digest. Now we're going to kill you. Bon apetit!

And who wants to clean up that mess after his bowels expel themselves upon death!
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He struggled for ten minutes? Either the N2 was contaminated with O2 or the mask had a really crappy seal. He should have been out from hypoxia in a maximum of two minutes, and even less if he was exerting himself.

Something here is bogus.

He did the thrashing on his own accord.  He was acting to make a statement.
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Cyber wrote:
"He did the thrashing on his own accord.  He was acting to make a statement."

Correct.
I wrote the following before I read your post. I'm posting it anyway:
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Regarding the reports of this guy "writhing" before he died.

Seems that I read he purposely tried to HOLD HIS BREATH for as long as possible, around two minutes (which was about the time the media reported he "struggled").

When he finally had to give up and breathe, it was over.

OK, here's an off-the-wall comment for ya:
The guy did this because he was PUT UP to do it by anti-death penalty advocates.

He was asked to "make it look bad" -- precisely because nitrogen hypoxia in reality is a passive, painless death. That's why it's promoted by assisted-suicide and right-to-die folks, and why it's designed into the Sarco Pod (in which case the pod-user activates the nitrogen from INSIDE).

The anti-death penalty people DON'T WANT this to become "the norm", because it would actually eliminate the argument of "cruel" "punishment".
Hence, their attempts to stop it.

Also, I'm not sure I understand why they used a "mask" on the guy.

Much better to have a "gas chamber" like enclosure, into which the prisoner is strapped into a chair. Just let him sit there and breathe normally, nothing on his face, then introduce the nitrogen to replace the oxygen. There will be no struggle, the prisoner won't know anything, other than to fall unconscious.

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Cyber wrote:
"He did the thrashing on his own accord.  He was acting to make a statement."

Correct.
I wrote the following before I read your post. I'm posting it anyway:
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Regarding the reports of this guy "writhing" before he died.

Seems that I read he purposely tried to HOLD HIS BREATH for as long as possible, around two minutes (which was about the time the media reported he "struggled").

When he finally had to give up and breathe, it was over.

OK, here's an off-the-wall comment for ya:
The guy did this because he was PUT UP to do it by anti-death penalty advocates.

He was asked to "make it look bad" -- precisely because nitrogen hypoxia in reality is a passive, painless death. That's why it's promoted by assisted-suicide and right-to-die folks, and why it's designed into the Sarco Pod (in which case the pod-user activates the nitrogen from INSIDE).

The anti-death penalty people DON'T WANT this to become "the norm", because it would actually eliminate the argument of "cruel" "punishment".
Hence, their attempts to stop it.

Also, I'm not sure I understand why they used a "mask" on the guy.

Much better to have a "gas chamber" like enclosure, into which the prisoner is strapped into a chair. Just let him sit there and breathe normally, nothing on his face, then introduce the nitrogen to replace the oxygen. There will be no struggle, the prisoner won't know anything, other than to fall unconscious.

Mask delivers the N2 much faster.
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He struggled for ten minutes? Either the N2 was contaminated with O2 or the mask had a really crappy seal. He should have been out from hypoxia in a maximum of two minutes, and even less if he was exerting himself.

Something here is bogus.

Agree 100%.  There was an accident 2 or 3 years back at a chicken plant north of Atlanta.  They used liquid nitrogen for cooling.  They had just installed a new system, but that system developed a leak inside the bottom floor of an employee building.  Six employees died.  You either made it up the stairs in 15 seconds, or you fell unconscious and died.
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WTF How the H3!! did it take 22 minutes. 5-8 minutes tops you can go with out oxygen.
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Prisons have had a hard time obtaining lethal injection drugs in recent years
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Strange...

The government/leftists know how to painless kill people via assisted suicide but somehow can't manage to come up with a way to kill convicted murderers in a humane way.

Common sense has long left the building...

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