Live Thread>> Iowa Caucus 2024

[catfish1957]

Just a reminder - While The Briefing Room "Trump Haters" try to showcase this forum as a Reagan style Conservative forum, all but a few wouldn't hesitate to withhold their vote for the GOP Nominee.

TWICE!

LOL!  You make this too easy...

Bull Shit!!!.   Key word is "CONSERVATIVE"!!!!  Tumpy is anything but one, and you remotely alluding that he is, is beyond laughable.

[DB]

@mystery-ak  @Hoodat  @LMAO  @catfish1957 @libertybele  @roamer_1  @Jack Russell  @Timber Rattler  @DB

And doesn't that piss you ALL off, to no end???       

Nope. Only sad. I'll survive. Enjoy your ride to wide spread decline and all the while you will be making excuses why he failed never learning a damn thing...

[libertybele]

Trump supporters like to convince themselves that Donald Trump  inherited an economy that was collapsed, only to pull it out of that, and make it one of the best economies in the history of of the country

The reality is he inherited a growing economy, although slowly, with low interest rates and low inflation, and left office with it in a wreck

So you were happy with the O'Bama economy and Obamacare?

In reality O'Bama ran up the deficit more than Trump and keep in mind that O'Bama didn't have a pandemic to deal with.  Just sayin'.

CLAIM: Trump “ran up more debt than any other President in American history.”

AP’S ASSESSMENT: That’s incorrect. The debt incurred during the Trump era was very high. But in terms of raw dollars, the total debt rose more under former President Barack Obama, with Trump in second place — though Obama held office for two terms, while Trump served one.

Gross debt as a percentage of U.S. gross domestic product at beginning and end of presidencies since 1940: (graph @link)

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-debt-donald-trump-barack-obama-ee3e613646fe500edf803e57959c776e

[catfish1957]

Nope. Only sad. I'll survive. Enjoy your ride to wide spread decline and all the while you will be making excuses why he failed never learning a damn thing...

Yep....  The Orange Trojan Horse dupes the GOP rank and file again.   Sad so many supposedly on our side have become mind numbing stupid

[LMAO]

So you were happy with the O'Bama economy and Obamacare?

In reality O'Bama ran up the deficit more than Trump and keep in mind that O'Bama didn't have a pandemic to deal with.  Just sayin'.

CLAIM: Trump “ran up more debt than any other President in American history.”

AP’S ASSESSMENT: That’s incorrect. The debt incurred during the Trump era was very high. But in terms of raw dollars, the total debt rose more under former President Barack Obama, with Trump in second place — though Obama held office for two terms, while Trump served one.

Gross debt as a percentage of U.S. gross domestic product at beginning and end of presidencies since 1940: (graph @link)

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-debt-donald-trump-barack-obama-ee3e613646fe500edf803e57959c776e

I never said that the Obama economy was great nor I liked Obamacare. Those are strawman arguments.

I simply said that Trump did not inherit a recession or economy that was collapsing. That’s a fact.

And Trump did bring the debt up more in dollar amounts in the shortest amount of time than any other president

Obama had eight years to do it. Trump did it in four.

https://www.wral.com/amp/20917913/

Strictly speaking, former President Barack Obama accumulated more debt than Trump. But Trump accumulated the most debt per year served in office.

[libertybele]

Just a reminder - While The Briefing Room "Trump Haters" try to showcase this forum as a Reagan style Conservative forum, all but a few wouldn't hesitate to withhold their vote for the GOP Nominee.

TWICE!

LOL!  You make this too easy...

I take issue @DCPatriot for you calling me a Trump Hater.  First of all hate is a very strong word.  I don't hate Trump, I just find his attack on conservatives and conservatism (again) detrimental to our Republic. So with that being said I cannot vote for him again.  I have stated several times that all in all he made a decent president.  I take issue with some things that he did.  He is not interested in MAGA anymore, he is interested in retribution and has become unhinged.  I cannot and will not vote for him. 

[Hoodat]

Just a reminder - While The Briefing Room "Trump Haters" try to showcase  .  .  .

For the umpteenth time, I am not a Trump hater.  I am a leftist-policy hater.  There is quite a lot about Trump that I like, even applaud.  But when it comes to things that matter, lean fiscal policy and an end to enriching the Swamp, Trump has been an abject failure.

.  .  .  showcase this forum as a Reagan style Conservative forum . .

It clearly isn't while people like you here trashing Conservatism and endorsing massive deficit spending for political expediency just like any other Democrat does.

all but a few wouldn't hesitate to withhold their vote for the GOP Nominee.

So if Joe Biden was the GOP nominee, you would vote for him?  That says a lot.

[libertybele]

I never said that the Obama economy was great nor I liked Obamacare. Those are strawman arguments.

I simply said that Trump did not inherit a recession or economy that was collapsing. That’s a fact.

And Trump did bring the debt up more in dollar amounts in the shortest amount of time than any other president

Obama had eight years to do it. Trump did it in four.

??? So are you saying the Brandon inherited a recession or economy that was collapsing?  Nope -- Brandon created those issues.  We were energy independent and unemployment was the lowest in history .... etc.

[LMAO]

??? So are you saying the Brandon inherited a recession or economy that was collapsing?  Nope -- Brandon created those issues.  We were energy independent and unemployment was the lowest in history .... etc.

The unemployment rate was over 6% in January 2021. It was just over 4% when he took office in January 2017.

Trump left office with the worst economy than the one inherited.

And it wasn’t Covid that did it. It was how Covid was handled.

[LMAO]

And as far as energy goes, US oil production hit a record under Biden last year. Yet inflation still persist. Why? Because we’re still printing and spending

That’s what causes inflation.

[Hoodat]

The unemployment rate was over 6% in January 2021

Trump left office with the worst economy than the one inherited.

And it wasn’t Covid that did it. It was how Covid was handled.

Paying people not to work is never good policy.  We have been saying this ever since LBJ initiated America's slow decline.  Yet when Trump does it, his sycophants here defend it, saying he had no choice.  And I'm sick of it.

[LMAO]

Paying people not to work is never good policy.  We have been saying this ever since LBJ initiated America's slow decline.  Yet when Trump does it, his sycophants here defend it, saying he had no choice.  And I'm sick of it.

And we’re reaping the rewards of such a policy

[libertybele]

And as far as energy goes, US oil production hit a record under Biden last year. Yet inflation still persist. Why? Because we’re still printing and spending

That’s what causes inflation.

Yes, I get that, but Brandon hit our oil reserves hard, so -- how much of what we're producing is actually replenishing what he sold off?

We need to be energy independent again period.

[Hoodat]

-- how much of what we're producing is actually replenishing what he sold off?

Zero.  There has been a 3 million bbl increase over the last six months (500k bbl per month).  But over the preceding 30 months, it fell 289 million bbl.  The government is not purchasing oil to refill the SPR.  That oil is being sold instead to other countries.

[libertybele]

Zero.  There has been a 3 million bbl increase over the last six months (500k bbl per month).  But over the preceding 30 months, it fell 289 million bbl.  The government is not purchasing oil to refill the SPR.  That oil is being sold instead to other countries.

Wonderful! 

[DCPatriot]

[Hoodat]

@DCPatriot

What does that have to do with the fact that you openly support a big-government big-deficit spender as bad as Joe Biden?

[mystery-ak]

Ron DeSantis Pledges Not to Drop Out of Presidential Race Even if He Finishes Third in Iowa

Ron DeSantis clarified that he will not drop out of the presidential primary contest, even if he finishes third in the Iowa caucus.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/01/15/ron-desantis-pledges-not-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race-even-if-he-finishes-third-in-iowa/

[libertybele]

Ron DeSantis Pledges Not to Drop Out of Presidential Race Even if He Finishes Third in Iowa

Ron DeSantis clarified that he will not drop out of the presidential primary contest, even if he finishes third in the Iowa caucus.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/01/15/ron-desantis-pledges-not-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race-even-if-he-finishes-third-in-iowa/

I'm still thinking (perhaps wishful thinking) that DeSantis will take IA. Haley NH, ... and then the fight is truly on. We'll know in just a short period of time. 

[cato potatoe]

Here's old man blowhard, sporting his Chernobyl spray tan in Iowa.  God what a douche.

[libertybele]

Here's old man blowhard, sporting his Chernobyl spray tan in Iowa.  God what a douche.

Casey's pizza?  I wonder if that's supposed to be some kind of insult to DeSantis?  His wife's name is Casey.

[libertybele]

A lot of the reason that US production has risen are the wells drilled but were not completed yet.  Those wells have come on line or are coming on line.  There was a HUGE backlog of them.

But you still have to factor in that Brandon is selling of our oil and has drastically reduced our reserves.

[Hoodat]

??? So are you saying the Brandon inherited a recession or economy that was collapsing?  Nope -- Brandon created those issues.  We were energy independent and unemployment was the lowest in history .... etc.

Trump was doing OK up until the point where he decided to go Full Democrat and spend $3 trillion in newly printed money in his last year in office while at the same time paying people not to produce.  Maybe if Trump had picked advisors that didn't come from the Swamp, he would have been smart enough to know that liberal policies do not Make America Great.  Ever.

[Hoodat]

But you still have to factor in that Brandon is selling of our oil and has drastically reduced our reserves.

The people who produce oil are selling oil.  The government doesn't produce oil.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Casey's pizza?  I wonder if that's supposed to be some kind of insult to DeSantis?  His wife's name is Casey.

   @libertybele

Casey's has been around Iowa since 1959 and its pizza is well known and a regional favorite --- with a cult-like following.

More:

Iowans love Casey's pizza — and for good reason
Des Moines Register
Sep 29, 2021

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/entertainment/dining/2021/09/29/caseys-iowa-convenience-store-has-become-beloved-its-breakfast-pizza/5914227001/