California ‘conservatives’ flood to little Idaho town with their socialism baggage in tow

[mystery-ak]

December 29, 2023
California ‘conservatives’ flood to little Idaho town with their socialism baggage in tow
By Olivia Murray

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, just because a person flees the hard-left policies of California does not automatically mean he or she is a conservative—in fact probably not really at all—case in point, from a story published at Fox News today, in which we find “conservatives” who apparently think socialism is politically acceptable:

    Retired California public employees are flocking to Idaho with their pension funds and becoming the financial "lifeblood" of at least one Idaho town, ruffling feathers with some locals who are taking issue with the ‘liberal baggage’ of the new residents.

    The Los Angeles Times reported this month the town of Eagle, Idaho, has seen an influx of retired cops and firefighters moving to their town with many of them identifying as conservative but who ‘seem practically socialist to the old guard’ with their large pensions.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/12/california_conservatives_flood_to_little_idaho_town_with_their_socialism_baggage_in_tow.html

[Smokin Joe]

This is what happens when "Conservatism" is defined by relative morality and not a set group of principles.

[LMAO]

And this is exactly what @roamer_1 and those of us mean and warn about when conservatism is re defined and watered down

My Goldwater tagline is conservatism. A limited federal government, fiscal responsibility, a strong dollar and free and open trade.

When it’s redefined, you just get a different version of an ever growing government

(Posted before I saw Smokin Joe’s  post)

[GtHawk]

Look, I'm against liberals flooding any city or state, whether they come from California or anywhere else...but it seems to me when I quickly scanned the story the big beef seems to be from the former mayor(who came from California with no pension) who lost to a retired captain with a large pension. Did I miss any big difference in political stance between the two or is the point of the article more envy over the winner of the mayoral race and others settling from California having large pensions?

If it is just the pension, what's the bitch? It is those like me in California paying those pensions that Idaho is now benefiting from, let me know when this city has been socialized by these 'conservatives' because from the story the only 'socialism baggage in tow' I can see is their 'large' pensions. (Would that I could have been smart enough to get a state or local government job)

[roamer_1]

Californication. This is nothing new, nor limited to one small town. This is happening everywhere in the Northwest.

Yoohoo @bigheadfred This is in your backyard....

[Hoodat]

Anyone fleeing California to another State should have to forfeit their right to vote for the next 20 years.

[GtHawk]

Anyone fleeing California to another State should have to forfeit their right to vote for the next 20 years.

Well bless your heart!

[Hoodat]

Well bless your heart!

You may be the exception, @GtHawk .  But I can tell you that all the Californians moving here won't hesitate to vote in the same policies that made hellholes out of the utopias they fled.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Californians are more whack-a-doodle moonbats than MASS-holes.

[catfish1957]

Anyone fleeing California to another State should have to forfeit their right to vote for the next 20 years.

Spent 6 weeks last summer in CA, helping family and their concept out there of what is conservative (among their conservative ranks) is a lot different than what he have in Texas.  Couldn't wait to get the hell out of there.

[roamer_1]

You may be the exception, @GtHawk .  But I can tell you that all the Californians moving here won't hesitate to vote in the same policies that made hellholes out of the utopias they fled.

There are plenty of cornbread fed California Conservative in rural parts... Some of the best cowboys I ever rode with were from the Sierras... Later to transplant to Wyoming, where I am sure they were very welcome. And I cannot believe that mighty San Diego just suddenly dried up and became suddenly liberal.

It's more of a citification thing. city folks come up here and find a backwater whose laws, ways, and means are just enough... Being so long in a dependent culture, they naturally think that way, and move to 'improve' things and make them better.

Even so, Californication is a thing. They have been pouring into the political towns and retirement towns in droves for decades.

How many times has that movie been written?

[GtHawk]

Spent 6 weeks last summer in CA, helping family and their concept out there of what is conservative (among their conservative ranks) is a lot different than what he have in Texas.  Couldn't wait to get the hell out of there.

Meh, there are places in Texas as liberal socialist as California, and there are still places in California as conservative as parts of Texas. Yes there are liberal @sswankers from California moving to conservative states, but truth is there are liberal @sswankers moving to conservative states from all over America...as well as the Hispanic and other hordes from both south and north of our borders.

My bitch isn't that California gets blamed, lord knows there is a lot of insanity here, it's the myopia to the other states part in the problem.

[Hoodat]

Outside of Jackson, anyone moving to Wyoming has my respect.  The only thing that State has to offer is Freedom.

[roamer_1]

Outside of Jackson, anyone moving to Wyoming has my respect.  The only thing that State has to offer is Freedom.

Yeah... but what freedom! And the Tetons are glorious if you stay out of town. 

[roamer_1]

Meh, there are places in Texas as liberal socialist as California, and there are still places in California as conservative as parts of Texas. Yes there are liberal @sswankers from California moving to conservative states, but truth is there are liberal @sswankers moving to conservative states from all over America...as well as the Hispanic and other hordes from both south and north of our borders.

My bitch isn't that California gets blamed, lord knows there is a lot of insanity here, it's the myopia to the other states part in the problem.

That's right... Unfortunately, in the west, the ones that don't have the western way invariably either come from the Portland/Seattle complex... Or California. Mostly the back east whackos are invading the South.

Not fair, and I get it... But that's what it is.
 

[Right_in_Virginia]

This is what happens when "Conservatism" is defined by relative morality and not a set group of principles.

Or ... This is what happens when conservatives fail to articulate what that set group of principles are in tangible, *relatable* terms.

[roamer_1]

Or ... This is what happens when conservatives fail to articulate what that set group of principles are in tangible, *relatable* terms.

Conservatism is very well defined. Read Kirk and Burke. That will give you a reasonable start... And you need it.

[Hoodat]

Or ... This is what happens when conservatives fail to articulate what that set group of principles are in tangible, *relatable* terms.

Can you 'relate' to terms like 'Big Government bad', 'deficit spending bad', 'limited government good', 'balanced budgets good'?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Conservatism is very well defined.

Yet still not articulated in a tangible and relatable way.  It's a good thing conservatives consider losing is virtuous. 

[roamer_1]

Yet still not articulated in a tangible and relatable way.  It's a good thing conservatives consider losing is virtuous.

It is certainly articulated in tangible and relatable ways in a thousand arguments right here on this board.

If you don't get it by now, well maybe it's you.