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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #825 on: March 26, 2024, 11:05:07 pm »
It's been 57 years of fighting with half measures.  The US is probably the main reason they never fight to a definitive conclusion.  We never do.

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« Reply #826 on: March 26, 2024, 11:06:57 pm »
The fact that no Arab / Muslim Middle East country wants to take in Palestinian / Gaza refugees tells you a lot.

What does it tell us? @DefiantMassRINO

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« Reply #827 on: March 27, 2024, 12:10:12 am »
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Netanyahu has been spoiling for a fight with the US. He may not survive this one
The Guardian, Mar 26, 2024

How do you gaslight an entire nation about a war and then try to do the same to a superpower that is your ally? And how do you turn a just war into global isolation and widespread condemnation? Just ask Benjamin Netanyahu. He has the patent.

Netanyahu has been deliberately and intently seeking a confrontation with the US ever since late October. The UN security council resolution 2728, demanding an “immediate ceasefire”, is just the latest pretext for this premeditated showdown. This may sound counterintuitive and imprudent to you, given that the two countries are close allies, given Israel’s heavy reliance on US military aid and its diplomatic umbrella, and particularly given President Biden’s sweeping and unwavering support for Israel since the 7 October catastrophe.

But Netanyahu has two reasons to instigate such a confrontation. The first is pure gaslighting on a grand scale. He concocted a narrative that supposedly explains the war’s context and consequently absolves him from the responsibility and accountability he persistently refuses to assume. It also distracts from his stated policy of imploring Qatar to funnel more funds to Gaza to strengthen Hamas, all in order to weaken the Palestinian Authority and render any political negotiations impossible.

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The second reason is more current and practical: the confrontation is about setting up Biden as the scapegoat for Netanyahu’s failure to achieve “total victory” or “the eradication of Hamas”, two fortune cookie-type slogans that he spews regularly.

The security council resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire, adopted by 14 members with the US abstaining, puts Israel on a double collision course: with the UN security council but more critically, with the US. Netanyahu’s sanctimonious tantrums about how “surprised” he was and how the US abstention is a departure from policy that would prevent victory is mendacious. He was warned repeatedly by the Biden administration that this would be an inevitable outcome if he persisted with his endless recalcitrance, defiance and effective refusal to engage with the US, ostensibly Israel’s staunch ally and protector.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #828 on: March 27, 2024, 12:16:47 am »
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'Madness’: Netanyahu’s handling of US relations under scrutiny after UN vote
The Guardian, Mar 26, 2024

The Israeli prime minister’s handling of relations with the Biden administration, which led the US on Monday to decline to veto a ceasefire resolution at the UN security council, has been greeted by sharp criticism by Israeli commentators.

After the US abstention, prominent columnists across the Israeli media condemned Benjamin Netanyahu’s growing friction with the US president, Joe Biden.

While Netanyahu, who has faced plummeting public approval ratings since Hamas’s surprise 7 October attack on southern Israel, has long been a target for a large section of Israel’s commentariat, the tone in some quarters after the rare US abstention in the security council bordered on derision and contempt.

Driving the sentiment is the vivid awareness within Israeli society of the huge importance of the US-Israeli relationship in terms of financial aid, arms sales and Washington’s diplomatic support, including its frequently used veto on Israel’s behalf on the security council.

The security council vote is a significant moment – but the US says its Gaza policy is unchanged.

Washington’s decision not to use its veto came after a weekend in which US officials say they spoke non-stop to Israeli counterparts warning them in advance, suggesting that Netanyahu’s decision to cancel a visit by a delegation to the US in the aftermath of the vote was more calculated theatre than the result of surprise.


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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #829 on: March 27, 2024, 12:52:11 am »
Some historical context:

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Two dramatic things happened on Monday, neither quite unprecedented by itself but uniquely striking in their back-to-back timing.

First, the United States did not veto but rather abstained from—and thus allowed to pass—a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in the war on Gaza.

It wasn’t the first time the United States has turned away from its usual practice of protecting Israel by vetoing resolutions that criticized the country. In fact, every president from Richard Nixon to Barack Obama abstained at least once on resolutions condemning Israel—Ronald Reagan did so seven times—for expanding settlements, invading Lebanon, permitting the murder of Palestinians, or other crimes and malfeasances.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/why-netanyahu-really-canceled-his-visit-to-washington.html

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #830 on: March 27, 2024, 12:55:47 am »
The fact that no Arab / Muslim Middle East country wants to take in Palestinian / Gaza refugees tells you a lot.

Absolutely.  They aren't wanted.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #831 on: March 27, 2024, 12:57:01 am »
Israel was 100% out of Gaza on October 6th.

If Hamas didn't want Israel in Gaza, they shouldn't have launched their October 7th terrorist attack against the Israeli civilian population.



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« Reply #832 on: March 27, 2024, 02:09:12 am »
What does it tell us? @DefiantMassRINO

If it is explained to you, obviously you will deny and disagree, so what IS the point, really, WrongInVirginia?

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« Reply #833 on: March 27, 2024, 03:04:01 am »
It tells us that other Arab Muslim nations view Palestinians as a politically destablizing presence in their countries.

What does it tell us? @DefiantMassRINO
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« Reply #834 on: March 27, 2024, 03:10:03 am »

If it is explained to you, obviously you will deny and disagree, so what IS the point, really, WrongInVirginia?

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Your post doesn't explain why Arab/Muslim countries don't want to accept Palestinian refugees @ChemEngrMBA

Please, try again.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #835 on: March 27, 2024, 03:17:05 am »
What does it tell us? @DefiantMassRINO

Seems to me that even Muslim countries reject 'Palestinian' refugees because as a group they are considered radical and extreme jihadists.

Similar reasoning why I wouldn't want to live in a cul-de-sac filled with all radical, militant Never Trumpers.

I mean how much fun would it be to have @roamer_1 on one side and @Hoodat on the other.

One would have goats and chickens running loose and the other would have giant Ukrainian flags flying.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #836 on: March 27, 2024, 03:20:53 am »
It tells us that other Arab Muslim nations view Palestinians as a politically destablizing presence in their countries.

I agree with this.  It's not a judgement of the worth of the people, but the chaos they could bring, especially to other regional relationships.   This sentiment is not unlike Western governments turning away Jewish refugees in the late 1930s --- nothing more, nothing less.

Further proof, if we need it, that war is hell.

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« Reply #837 on: March 27, 2024, 03:26:50 am »
I agree with this.  It's not a judgement of the worth of the people, but the chaos they could bring, especially to other regional relationships.   This sentiment is not unlike Western governments turning away Jewish refugees in the late 1930s --- nothing more, nothing less.

Further proof, if we need it, that war is hell.
Y'all seem to be forgetting that the governments there are inherently tribal.

It took tribal conflict to keep enemies out, they aren't about to invite them in. (unlike the stupid MFers in our government)
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« Reply #838 on: March 27, 2024, 07:09:10 pm »
Similar reasoning why I wouldn't want to live in a cul-de-sac filled with all radical, militant Never Trumpers.

I mean how much fun would it be to have @roamer_1 on one side and @Hoodat on the other.

First of all, I am not a #NeverTrumper.  I'm #NeverLiberal.  Been telling you this for eight years now, and you still get it wrong.

Secondly, @roamer_1 and I do disagree from time to time.  Take the Eagles, for example.  I rightly know that they suck, while Roamer mistakenly believes their music to be pleasing to the ear.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #839 on: March 27, 2024, 07:40:05 pm »
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« Reply #840 on: March 27, 2024, 08:47:39 pm »
First of all, I am not a #NeverTrumper.  I'm #NeverLiberal.  Been telling you this for eight years now, and you still get it wrong.


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« Reply #841 on: March 27, 2024, 08:51:45 pm »
I mean how much fun would it be to have @roamer_1 on one side and @Hoodat on the other.

One would have goats and chickens running loose and the other would have giant Ukrainian flags flying.

By the way, my kind wouldn't be caught dead living in a cul-de-sac. And you'd flat die trying to live where I do. So you're functioning in fantasy, @DCPatriot

@Hoodat is a different thing. He'd likely be welcome where I go.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #842 on: March 28, 2024, 12:20:16 pm »
As Israel Eyes Last Hamas Stronghold, Experts Urge Biden to Support Netanyahu

The Post & Email by Family Research Council 3/27/2024

Over the weekend, the Biden administration ratcheted up its rhetoric against Israel’s fight against the terrorist group Hamas, as Vice President Kamala Harris declared that there could be “consequences” for Israel if it invades the southernmost Gazan city of Rafah, which remains the last major stronghold of Hamas. Experts and lawmakers say that despite the difficult situation in Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees are encamped, the U.S. must support Israel’s military efforts to rid Gaza of Hamas in the wake of the terrorist group’s October 7 atrocities.

As opposition to Israel has grown within some segments of the Democratic Party’s voter base, prominent Democrats such as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) have vocalized an increasingly hard-edged position against Israel in recent weeks, with Schumer calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to step down on March 14. Secretary of State Antony Blinken continued the drumbeat last week, saying that a failed U.S.-led U.N. resolution calling for a ceasefire tied to the release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas was meant to create “a sense of urgency.”

But dissent from within the Democratic ranks on the party’s stance against Israel appears to be growing. On Sunday, Senator John Fetterman (D-Pa.) responded unequivocally to Vice President Harris’s remarks that a Rafah invasion would be a “huge mistake” and that the Biden administration would not rule out consequences against Israel if it moved forward. “Hard disagree,” Fetterman wrote on X. “Israel has the right to prosecute Hamas to surrender or to be eliminated. Hamas owns every innocent death for their cowardice hiding behind Palestinian lives.”

Last Friday, Lela Gilbert, a senior fellow for International Religious Freedom at Family Research Council who spent 10 years living in Israel, joined “Washington Watch” to discuss the current status of Israel’s war against Hamas and the Biden administration’s response to it.

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« Reply #843 on: March 28, 2024, 05:48:20 pm »
What does it tell us? @DefiantMassRINO

Can you say 'Black September'??  It tells us that these Arab countries know that the Palestinians are nothing but trouble and are a threat to their peace and security .
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« Reply #844 on: March 29, 2024, 12:54:47 am »

DOD in early talks to fund a peacekeeping force in Gaza

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03/28/2024

Biden administration officials are in preliminary “conversations” about options for stabilizing post-war Gaza, including a proposal for the Pentagon to help fund either a multinational force or a Palestinian peacekeeping team.

The options being considered would not involve U.S. troops on the ground, according to two Defense Department officials and two other U.S. officials, all granted anonymity to discuss the closed-door diplomatic and military negotiations. Instead, DOD funding would go toward the needs of the security force and complement assistance from other countries.

Asked for comment, a senior administration official said “we are working with partners on various scenarios for interim governance and security structures in Gaza once the crisis recedes,” declining to detail specifics. “We’ve had a number of conversations with both the Israelis and our partners about key elements for the day after in Gaza when the time is right.”

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« Reply #845 on: March 29, 2024, 01:08:56 am »
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Isn't that like cognitive dissonance? Or maybe just plain stupid?
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« Reply #846 on: March 29, 2024, 01:26:32 am »
Isn't that like cognitive dissonance? Or maybe just plain stupid?
This is Biden/Obama/UN making sure that no matter what happens, Hamas will keep Gaza.
They want a force to kick Israel out of Gaza and move the terrorists back in.
Biden/Obama/UN worst fear is that Israel will actually do what they say and win the war in Gaza.
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Indians Set to Replace Palestinian Workers From Gaza/West Bank in Israeli Jobs After October 7 Massacre

Legal Insurrection by  Vijeta Uniyal  4/1/2024

Jerusalem Post: “Thousands of laborers are expected to work in the embattled construction sector, which relied almost exclusively on Palestinian workers before the war.”

“An influx of Indian workers is expected to arrive in Israel in the coming weeks as part of an effort to overcome a labor shortage due to the Israel-Hamas war,” the Jerusalem Post reported earlier this month, “Thousands of laborers are expected to work in the embattled construction sector, which relied almost exclusively on Palestinian workers before the war.”

The replacement of workforce from Gaza and the West Bank is matter of Israel’s national secutiry. Evidence suggests that Hamas misused Israel’s work permit program to carry out reconnaissance on bordering Jewish communities ahead of the attack. Several of the terrorists who entered Israel on October 7 were holders of work-permits and had intimate knowledge of the security measures in place.

Israel’s government-backed agency, National Skill Development Corporation (NSDC), conducted recruitment drives in several Indian states. Jerusalem is looking for skilled workers, such as plumbers, electricians and masons, along with agricultural and constructions workers.-----

Modi government defies left-wing trade unions, takes credit for Israeli recruitment drive


India’s Marxist-led workers unions, which otherwise despise India’s Hindu Nationalist government, urged Prime Minister Narendra Modi to ‘scrap’ any agreement to send Indians workers to Israel.

Left-wing unions “questioned the [New Delhi’s] proposed move to send about [one hundred thousand] Indian construction workers to Israel to replace Palestinian nationals working there,” Indian newspaper The Hindu reported November 11. “They alleged that the [Indian] government is playing a despicable role in supporting the Israeli plans to throw out Palestinian workers and retaliation for the Hamas attack is only an excuse.”

The appeal by the leftist unions will have little impact on the government’s decision. India’s largest trade union, with 10 million members, is a right-wing workers body aligned with Prime Minister Modi’s party.


More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/04/indians-set-to-replace-palestinian-workers-from-gaza-west-bank-in-israeli-jobs-after-october-7-massacre/

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