BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON

[DCPatriot]

And Lebanon had better pick a side in this war.  They have gotten away with harboring Hezbollah for far too long.

...exactly the situation in Gaza, with Hamas.

[Hoodat]

Damascus is the capital of Lebanon.

[Cyber Liberty]

...exactly the situation in Gaza, with Hamas.

The difference being, Lebanon is an actual Country....Hamas always had very little to lose in picking stupid battles.

[Cyber Liberty]

Damascus is the capital of Lebanon.

That is probably true.

[mountaineer]

Al Jazeera reporting false information! Hard to imagine. 

Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
The US has rejected Israel’s request to obtain Apache helicopters as it continues its war on Gaza, reports Israeli news outlet Yedioth Ahronoth (Ynet).  🔴 LIVE updates: http://aje.io/xx4z8
3:21 AM · Dec 26, 2023

Barak Ravid
@BarakRavid
A U.S. official told me the story is false and claimed Israel didn't request Apache helicopters
12:02 PM · Dec 26, 2023

[bigheadfred]

Damascus is the capital of Lebanon.

Does that make Tehran the capital of Syria?

[DCPatriot]

Al Jazeera reporting false information! Hard to imagine. 

Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
The US has rejected Israel’s request to obtain Apache helicopters as it continues its war on Gaza, reports Israeli news outlet Yedioth Ahronoth (Ynet).  🔴 LIVE updates: http://aje.io/xx4z8
3:21 AM · Dec 26, 2023

Barak Ravid
@BarakRavid
A U.S. official told me the story is false and claimed Israel didn't request Apache helicopters
12:02 PM · Dec 26, 2023

LOL!  The Israelis could probably start building them tomorrow, as they surely have all the specs/schemactics.

[Hoodat]

Does that make Tehran the capital of Syria?

Not quite.  Assad will still be protective of his status as local tyrant.  There is no such counterpart in Lebanon.

[Cyber Liberty]

Does that make Tehran the capital of Syria?

Yes.

[Cyber Liberty]

LOL!  The Israelis could probably start building them tomorrow, as they surely have all the specs/schemactics.

Isn't the Apache an anti-tank weapon?  If so, why would Israel want them in the first place?

[240B]

LOL!  The Israelis could probably start building them tomorrow, as they surely have all the specs/schemactics.

Possibly, but why bother? They can buy dozens or hundreds of them from Afghanistan on the cheap. Biden gifted Afghanistan who knows how many Apaches and the Muzzies can't even fly them. I'm sure they would be glad to sell them to a third party broker who would then sell them to Israel.

In fact, anybody or any group in the World can get all of the state of the art modern American munitions from Afghanistan. The barefoot primitives there cannot do anything with them. Instead of letting them rot in a field, why not sell them? Which is what they are doing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

And Lebanon had better pick a side in this war.  They have gotten away with harboring Hezbollah for far too long.

...exactly the situation in Gaza, with Hamas.

Not even remotely similar.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Netanyahu’s 3 Peace Conditions: Destroy Hamas, Demilitarize Gaza, Deprogram Palestinians

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal on Christmas Day laying out his three basic conditions for peace in post-war Gaza: destroy Hamas, demilitarize Gaza, and de-radicalize the Palestinian population.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/25/netanyahus-3-peace-conditions-destroy-hamas-demilitarize-gaza-deprogram-palestinians/

FTA: Netanyahu quote:

Third, Gaza will have to be deradicalized. Schools must teach children to cherish life rather than death, and imams must cease to preach for the murder of Jews. Palestinian civil society needs to be transformed so that its people support fighting terrorism rather than funding it.

'Buying Quiet’: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gambled that a strong Hamas (but not too strong) would keep the peace and reduce pressure for a Palestinian state.
NY Times, Dec 10, 2023

Just weeks before Hamas launched the deadly Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, the head of Mossad arrived in Doha, Qatar, for a meeting with Qatari officials.

For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.

During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?

Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.

Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting

In interviews with more than two dozen current and former Israeli, American and Qatari officials, and officials from other Middle Eastern governments, The New York Times unearthed new details about the origins of the policy, the controversies that erupted inside the Israeli government and the lengths that Mr. Netanyahu went to in order to shield the Qataris from criticism and keep the money flowing.

The payments were part of a string of decisions by Israeli political leaders, military officers and intelligence officials — all based on the fundamentally flawed assessment that Hamas was neither interested in nor capable of a large-scale attack


More:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

[Wingnut]

FTA: Netanyahu quote:

As our resident Jew hater, you have an issue with what the NY Times said he said. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Not even remotely similar.

That is correct.

[Right_in_Virginia]

As our resident Jew hater, you have an issue with what the NY Times said he said.

I only hate the damage the quintessential liar, Benjamin Netanyahu, has done to the Israeli people, their safety and security and faith in who they are.

The payments from Qatar to Hamas are well documented, as are the facilitation by Mossad and approval of Netanyahu.

Retiring Netanyahu will save Israel @Wingnut

[Cyber Liberty]

I only hate the damage the quintessential liar, Benjamin Netanyahu, has done to the Israeli people, their safety and security and faith in who they are.

The payments from Qatar to Hamas are well documented, as are the facilitation by Mossad and approval of Netanyahu.

Retiring Netanyahu will save Israel @Wingnut

When the shooting is over. Not until.

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

Are you suggesting that Israe should l have turned that money over to the PA instead?

[Right_in_Virginia]

When the shooting is over. Not until.

But before peace negotiations......

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Are you suggesting that Israe should l have turned that money over to the PA instead?

No.

[Cyber Liberty]

But before peace negotiations......

No.

[DCPatriot]

Not even remotely similar.

Was referring to having a militant presence allowed by the citizens through a ballot box.

Both Gazans and Lebanese vote for this crap.

[Wingnut]

I only hate the damage the quintessential liar, Benjamin Netanyahu, has done to the Israeli people, their safety and security and faith in who they are.

The payments from Qatar to Hamas are well documented, as are the facilitation by Mossad and approval of Netanyahu.

Retiring Netanyahu will save Israel @Wingnut

Nah.  You are running a game on us.  But those of us who stand with Israel see you as a pro Hamas stooge. 

[mystery-ak]

Israel-Hamas war: Trey Yingst gives update on fighting, 'extremely bloody and intense' battles

[240B]

I only hate the damage the quintessential liar, Benjamin Netanyahu, has done to the Israeli people, their safety and security and faith in who they are.

The payments from Qatar to Hamas are well documented, as are the facilitation by Mossad and approval of Netanyahu.

Retiring Netanyahu will save Israel @Wingnut

What does "Retiring Netanyahu" mean? Do you mean retiring him in the mafia sense of the term? Or ... what do you mean by that?

Sounds like you want to kill the Prime Minister of Israel in the middle of one of the most consequential wars Israel has ever faced.

What do you imagine killing Netanyahu would do? Suddenly 'peace' will break out. Rainbows and Unicorns will fill the skies. Arabs and the Western World globally will suddenly patch everything up and hug each other in love.

This is not a specifically only an Israeli problem. Israel is only first on the list. Then comes France, Britain, and Germany, to start. Eventually reaching America. Getting rid of Netanyahu would do nothing to even put a dent in the current wave of Global Jihad worldwide.