DeSantis asks Hannity to arrange debate with Trump

[Right_in_Virginia]

What a crock of crappola and you know it.

Is your wish I shoo or engage?  Let me know and I will be delighted to oblige you @libertybele

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Yeah,Trump is such a horrible candidate that the DNC decided to file almost 100 legal charges against him  in an effort to destroy his support,right?

How many legal charges has the DNC filed against Dey Do Ron Ron in an effort to keep him from running because they are afraid he will beat the Dim candidate?

Inquiring minds,and all dat.

Dey ?? Ron?  Name-calling is so childish. Trust me, if DeSantis was charged with 90+ felonies I'd definitely be looking for another candidate to support.

Here's a recap of the charges against Trump.  Whether or not they are bogus doesn't matter; what matters is that there are so many charges it is going to be difficult for him to escape all charges against him.  That is a concern.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

Obviously should he win re-election he could technically pardon himself (on some charges) @sneakypete but do you honestly believe the leftists are going to let him near the WH again? They stole an election once, they'll do it again, and let's remember that Ronna is still in charge and hasn't done anything to ensure a free and fair election. So, what's changed???

[DCPatriot]

Oh bullshit! It's a reasonable question.

Like Harvard President Gay said...it depends on the context.

From phony righteous anti-Trumpers whose guy in down 50 POINTS, it's inciteful.

How could fellow Briefers be so cognitively dissonant?  Why are you so damned stubborn?

We believe in our hearts that ALL charges against President Trump are bogus.
YOU...and as some other mamaluke said "...your ilk", OTOH are getting a thrill up your leg at the chance of him being found 'guilty' ...."...of at least one of ninety..."?

No my friend @roamer_1   It's not a reasonable question.

[LMAO]

Like Harvard President Gay said...it depends on the context.

From phony righteous anti-Trumpers whose guy in down 50 POINTS, it's inciteful.

How could fellow Briefers be so cognitively dissonant?  Why are you so damned stubborn?

We believe in our hearts that ALL charges against President Trump are bogus.
YOU...and as some other mamaluke said "...your ilk", OTOH are getting a thrill up your leg at the chance of him being found 'guilty' ...."...of at least one of ninety..."?

No my friend @roamer_1   It's not a reasonable question.

What you believe “in our  hearts” doesn’t replace the law

Biden’s supporters also believe “in their hearts” that the charges against him and the son are also all bogus

How many points Trump is up in the primary is irrelevant

[libertybele]

Like Harvard President Gay said...it depends on the context.

From phony righteous anti-Trumpers whose guy in down 50 POINTS, it's inciteful.

How could fellow Briefers be so cognitively dissonant?  Why are you so damned stubborn?

We believe in our hearts that ALL charges against President Trump are bogus.
YOU...and as some other mamaluke said "...your ilk", OTOH are getting a thrill up your leg at the chance of him being found 'guilty' ...."...of at least one of ninety..."?

No my friend @roamer_1   It's not a reasonable question.

No one is thrilled with the left's bogus charges against Trump. The difference is, somehow Trump supporters feel they're going to let him just walk away from them all; that's not realistic.  Nor is it being realistic thinking that they are going to let him near the WH again. What's changed @DCPatriot that makes you think he'll be seated in the oval office???  IF anything, things have progressively gotten worse.

For one I have doubts that we'll see another election and secondly, I don't think that they're going to let any REP near the oval office.  Just my opinion.

[libertybele]

Is your wish I shoo or engage?  Let me know and I will be delighted to oblige you @libertybele

Gee @Right_in_Virginia that's up to you -- you shooed me away -- like it or not, I opted to stay.

[roamer_1]

Like Harvard President Gay said...it depends on the context.

From phony righteous anti-Trumpers whose guy in down 50 POINTS, it's inciteful.

More bullshit. For you to read anything other than the literal context in such a simple question is bullshit.
Answer the question.

How could fellow Briefers be so cognitively dissonant?  Why are you so damned stubborn?

We believe in our hearts that ALL charges against President Trump are bogus.
YOU...and as some other mamaluke said "...your ilk", OTOH are getting a thrill up your leg at the chance of him being found 'guilty' ...."...of at least one of ninety..."?

No my friend @roamer_1   It's not a reasonable question.

Of course it is. Facts on the ground are what they are. And considering Tumpy's obvious inability to put together and keep a top shelf lawyering team, the sheer number of charges, the fixed nature of the local courts where he is charged, it is inevitable that he is going to get hit with conviction.

What then, when our presumptive nominee gets perped walked to jail mid summer? What's next.
The strategic bet is incalculable. Friggin cosmic in size.

I am sure I cannot be the only one looking forward enough to legitimately ponder that.
And if you thing he can win from jail, you've got another think coming, @DCPatriot ... it may not hinder you, but I guarantee it will cost him 30 points at the minimum... Lawfare or not.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Gee @Right_in_Virginia that's up to you -- you shooed me away -- like it or not, I opted to stay.

      

Shoo!  @Right_in_Virginia   You can't provide the data because you're basing everything on just your opinion rather than fact and you can't face the reality that the leftists have charged Trump with 90+ felonies.

You state that I've become an enemy to the rule of law??  Shame on you. Take a good hard look in the mirror. Now move on ....shoo fly shoo!

[DCPatriot]

No one is thrilled with the left's bogus charges against Trump. The difference is, somehow Trump supporters feel they're going to let him just walk away from them all; that's not realistic.  Nor is it being realistic thinking that they are going to let him near the WH again. What's changed @DCPatriot that makes you think he'll be seated in the oval office???  IF anything, things have progressively gotten worse.

For one I have doubts that we'll see another election and secondly, I don't think that they're going to let any REP near the oval office.  Just my opinion.

You're displaying cowardice in the face of the enemy, @libertybele   You're better than that.

We are fighting today's battles.  We'll fight tomorrow's when they're "today's ".

Afraid that we're getting close to that ONE catalyst that could trigger regional uprising of sorts.

[libertybele]

     

I asked you a few honest questions in which you sidestepped and got all in a tizzy over.

[roamer_1]

And by the way, I will again reiterate that I believe the charges to be bullcrap, or at least a great most of them. iANAL, but lawyers I trust have said some few of the charges have legs. I ain't paying much attention to it, so I will rely on that to reserve some small percentage to the idea that he was legitimately caught, and legitimately charged in some few points.

However, my bet is on conviction mid to late summer, a disastrous disarray of Republicans, with a hastily elite nominated Nikki Haley, and a disaster at the polls. A total effin SNAFU,or something like it...

How incredibly selfish of the man to run with such a Sword of Damascus hanging over his head.

[libertybele]

You're displaying cowardice in the face of the enemy, @libertybele   You're better than that.

We are fighting today's battles.  We'll fight tomorrow's when they're "today's ".

Afraid that we're getting close to that ONE catalyst that could trigger regional uprising of sorts.

Cowardice??? Hardly.  I'm looking at things very realistically. Things aren't looking good for this country, nor has anything changed to ensure that we'll get a free and fair election.  We have a RNC chairwoman who hasn't done a darn thing for the GOP, we have members of Congress that haven't done a darn thing for this country.

I do know that we have a very conservative governor who is running for President that is very competent and has a proven track record of winning against the leftists.  I'll place my bets on him. Whether or not he's 50 points or more behind, I opt to back a conservative. IMHO he's our best shot at change.

Do I think the odds are in the GOP's favor?? No. Notta.  With a corrupt DOJ things aren't looking all that rosy in case you haven't noticed.

[LMAO]

And by the way, I will again reiterate that I believe the charges to be bullcrap, or at least a great most of them. iANAL, but lawyers I trust have said some few of the charges have legs. I ain't paying much attention to it, so I will rely on that to reserve some small percentage to the idea that he was legitimately caught, and legitimately charged in some few points.

However, my bet is on conviction mid to late summer, a disastrous disarray of Republicans, with a hastily elite nominated Nikki Haley, and a disaster at the polls. A total effin SNAFU,or something like it...

How incredibly selfish of the man to run with such a Sword of Damascus hanging over his head.

I have a sister who is an attorney, and I asked her about these charges and the charges that she believes are gonna be more troublesome for him are the documents case and the election interferences case

And for those who are hinting at Civil War, Part 2 if Donald Trump is found guilty by a jury of his peers, how do you think that’s gonna go for you?

[roamer_1]

You're displaying cowardice in the face of the enemy, @libertybele   

What utter bullshit.

[roamer_1]

I have a sister who is an attorney, and I asked her about these charges and the charges that she believes are gonna be more troublesome for him are the documents case and the election interferences case

Same... And for the conversation, I care not about innocence or guilt, but rather, the modularized consequence either way from the resulting decision. What that is, and it's effect on the election. Most of it will clear off by early to mid spring I think, as convictions fall away upon appeal. But anything that survives to require a second appeal is getting at the money shot, as it were.

[DCPatriot]

I have a sister who is an attorney, and I asked her about these charges and the charges that she believes are gonna be more troublesome for him are the documents case and the election interferences case

And for those who are hinting at Civil War, Part 2 if Donald Trump is found guilty by a jury of his peers, how do you think that’s gonna go for you?

@LMAO

Who said anything about "Civil War"?

Said that there could be Lone Wolves out there who are at "THAT" point and will have said "ENOUGH!"

Perversely, technology today makes it virtually impossible for any patriotic American to seriously take on an insurgent government. 

One would have to insert themselves to a time in America before the Digital Age.

NOW...THERE is a fun thread.

What would you have to "ditch" in order to survive in the new  USSR...The United Socialist States Republic?

What couldn't you have if you were part of a "RED DAWN" brigade?

Smartphone?  OUT!
GPS?  OUT!

Gas heat?
Electric?  HAH!!!!!

 

[LMAO]

I do know that we have a very conservative governor who is running for President that is very competent and has a proven track record of winning against the leftists.  I'll place my bets on him.

He is competent and winning against the leftists because he has a strong GOP statehouse behind him

A luxury he wouldn’t have in DC were he would be tested like never before

Does the Tallahassee statehouse have a version of “The squad?”

[Right_in_Virginia]

I have a sister who is an attorney, and I asked her about these charges and the charges that she believes are gonna be more troublesome for him are the documents case and the election interferences case

Whose law does she practice?

[LMAO]

Whose law does she practice?

Criminal

[libertybele]

He is competent and winning against the leftists because he has a strong GOP statehouse behind him

A luxury he wouldn’t have in DC were he would be tested like never before

Does the Tallahassee statehouse have a version of “The squad?”

With that being stated, he handsomely won re-election in places that normally vote heavily DEM.  Why do you think they voted for DeSantis?? Because they have experienced that conservatism works.  Plain and simple.  A message that those in Congress have been unwilling or unable to convey. Trust me, we still have RINO's in the statehouse. 

Secondly, there is a reason why the FL statehouse leans to the right; DeSantis has been able to prove that conservatism works and more conservatives got voted in.

Agree with me or not, the message needs to be relayed and heard; conservatism works and liberalism fails. Unless those GOP in Congress and those running for office are willing to stand behind that message, nothing will change.  We can't just check a box any longer because a candidate has an 'R' next to their name. How has that been working out???

[roamer_1]

NOW...THERE is a fun thread.

What would you have to "ditch" in order to survive in the new  USSR...The United Socialist States Republic?

What couldn't you have if you were part of a "RED DAWN" brigade?

Smartphone?  OUT!
GPS?  OUT!

Gas heat?
Electric?  HAH!!!!!

 

@DCPatriot

Want me to tell you? Because I can. 

[LMAO]

Agree with me or not, the message needs to be relayed and heard; conservatism works and liberalism fails.

lol

I don’t think I’ve given any indication that conservativism, as defined by individual freedoms, free markets, and rule of law is not better than progressivism that’s based solely on emotion

[sneakypete]

Bullshit sommore... And a clumsy dodge.

My views on the whole legal mess are known. I think he will wind up beating all of it.

But I also think the game is rigged in the localities where he is charged... and he will be convicted, perp walk and all...  And he may well go to jail (as they will insist upon it). But in the end, when the authority is lifted to an appeals court, away from the rigged game, he will win... Probably on all charges.

But iff he is the nominee, and sitting in jail, what then? A guaranteed win for the Democrats, with no way out.
With such a legal weight hanging over his head, he should have never run.

The strategic bet on that is insane.

@roamer_1

I agree with everything  you wrote except for the parts in bold. I SUSPECT that you are right about what the Dims are going to do,but *I* think this will only highlight how the Dims "won" the election,and it will create a HUGE backlash against the DNC and pretty much all the Dim candidates.

I might be wrong,but I think the backlash may become so intense that enough of the Dims will be so afraid of losing their office if they stick with it that they will join in on the demand to release him and drop all the charges.

IF this happens BEFORE the elections,I see Trump winning in a landslide.

If it doesn't happen until AFTER the Dims steal the election,it just might get interesting.

This is NOT like "public politics" prior to maybe the 1970's,where it SEEMED like most people trusted their local newspapers to give them the unbiased truth about political and other issues. Pretty much everybody today with a double-digit IQ KNOWS the media is biased by leftist owners. This being in the open is pretty recent,and revolutions are always slow to  happen,but when things reach the point where there is no hiding the cheating and the stealing of elections,things can begin to get "interesting".

Sure,Bill Gates and his comrades will just get into their private jets and fly off to refuge in places like Switzerland,but even that isn't the safety net it used to be.

Nor is ignoring "unpleasant truths" by the media. When/if the general public finally decides they have been betrayed and decide to take control back,it can get ugly on a biblical scale.

Remember the old curse,"May you live in interesting times!"?

We are now "there".

[sneakypete]

Well, DeSantis, or any of the other GOP candidates, don’t have a history of trying to overturn an election in places like Georgia or encouraging his supporters to stop federal proceeding

So there is that. And before you MAGAs respond, ask yourselves if you would defend Hillary if she conducted herself in a similar matter after her 2016 loss. I already know the answer to that


@LMAO

Apples and Oranges.

Bubbette! was trying to STEAL an election she lost.

Trump will be trying to get back an election that was stolen from him.






 

[libertybele]

lol

I don’t think I’ve given any indication that conservativism, as defined by individual freedoms, free markets, and rule of law is not better than progressivism that’s based solely on emotion

The point that I was truly trying to make is that DeSantis' competency isn't strictly based on the fact that he has a predominantly conservative legislature; it is not.  It is because of him acting on his conservatism and able to point out its benefits as to why he's been able to make the progress in FL that he has.

I apologize @LMAO  I went back and reread my comment and I didn't intend to imply that you thought that progressiveness was better.