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...hmm... how about we wait for our resident Trump supporters to weigh in before we judge them?
Because they're about as predictable as the phases of the moon.

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Student loan clawbacks? Giving that money back to the students they fleeced? Nah.

A new government program that resembles Trump University 2.0? Yeah.

Thanks....  I'd forgot about some of his scams.
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...hmm... how about we wait for our resident Trump supporters to weigh in before we judge them?
I agree. It's rude to presume.
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From the source article:
"Under the plan I’m announcing today, we will take the billions and billions of dollars that we will collect by taxing, fining, and suing excessively large private university endowments, and we will then use that money to endow a new institution called the American Academy."

Durnit, this sounds pretty good to me.

For a century, the left (spurred on by academia) has been taking our money.
It's time to take a good chunk of that BACK.

Y'all want the leftist education system dismantled and a better one rebuilt in its stead?

Like Mr. Lenin said, "To make an omelet..."

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Neither of them will be changed.

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From the source article:
"Under the plan I’m announcing today, we will take the billions and billions of dollars that we will collect by taxing, fining, and suing excessively large private university endowments, and we will then use that money to endow a new institution called the American Academy."

Durnit, this sounds pretty good to me.

For a century, the left (spurred on by academia) has been taking our money.
It's time to take a good chunk of that BACK.

Y'all want the leftist education system dismantled and a better one rebuilt in its stead?

Like Mr. Lenin said, "To make an omelet..."

Sorry if you don't like this post or my attitude.
Neither of them will be changed.

Well that didn’t take long. I predicted accurately
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From the source article:
"Under the plan I’m announcing today, we will take the billions and billions of dollars that we will collect by taxing, fining, and suing excessively large private university endowments, and we will then use that money to endow a new institution called the American Academy."

Durnit, this sounds pretty good to me.

For a century, the left (spurred on by academia) has been taking our money.
It's time to take a good chunk of that BACK.

Y'all want the leftist education system dismantled and a better one rebuilt in its stead?

Like Mr. Lenin said, "To make an omelet..."

Sorry if you don't like this post or my attitude.
Neither of them will be changed.
Cut off their public funding.

I'm good with that.

Then the left can put their money where their mouths are.
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Cut off their public funding.

I'm good with that.

Then the left can put their money where their mouths are.

Agree
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Cut off their public funding.

I'm good with that.

Then the left can put their money where their mouths are.

Totally on board with that, though that's much different from what Trump is actually advocating.

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Well that didn’t take long. I predicted accurately

Yup.

It's worthwhile noting this isn't something Trump just said casually off the top of his head without thinking.  This is an express policy position that obviously was discussed and fine-tuned before being put up on his public website.  That means that not only does Trump support this, but so too do the folks advising him.  That makes it something you just can't wave away.

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   Further proof that TBR is a Hate Trump Forum.  If anybody has experience in this it's Trump: He started his own University.

   Oh yea, the lawsuits stopped when it filed bankruptcy 2 years later.


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   Further proof that TBR is a Hate Trump Forum.  If anybody has experience in this it's Trump: He started his own University.

   Oh yea, the lawsuits stopped when it filed bankruptcy 2 years later.



Hate Trump forum?? Nah. More like most of us have come to our senses and it sure as heck isn't standing behind someone who supports liberalism, larger government and out of control spending.
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   Further proof that TBR is a Hate Trump Forum.  If anybody has experience in this it's Trump: He started his own University.

   Oh yea, the lawsuits stopped when it filed bankruptcy 2 years later.



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    I am forever Grateful to TBR to allow me this escape for 10+ years.

   @mystery-ak and @Cyber Liberty have allowed 'Freedom of Speech' here throughout this Ordeal; this chasm that existed in the GOP even before the Goldwater days.
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Ditto.
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Totally on board with that, though that's much different from what Trump is actually advocating.
It is different, and beyond that crosses a line.

For all the howling about not being censored, about information not being controlled, not only would this represent an illegal seizure of assets, but a lockdown on what is taught.

The whole purpose of being at university was to learn how to research in a meaningful and intelligent way to find answers, at least when and where I went.

That requires a variety of viewpoints, debate and discussion, not marching in lockstep.
Freedom of speech MUST include that which we find to be incorrect, or those arguments cannot be made.

Discovery of new scientific concepts, similarly, requires the examination of all, from fundamental principles to cutting edge theories, and the failure to question the axioms is as bad as cherry picking evidence in supporting a theory.

We had a die hard Communist among the students we knew. Card Carrying type who could recite all that proletariat vs the bourgeois stuff, but could not put a single concept in his own words. FAIL!
Indoctrinated, but not educated, and his stuff didn't find many willing ears.
But we were exposed to it, to the mindset, to the opportunity to discern between educated support for a theory and total indoctrination, and that made it interesting until that nonsense became tedious. Nonetheless,he had his opportunity to make his case.

Without that exchange, that discourse, education will be back to memorizing by rote, as much indoctrination as our token Communist displayed.

I want the students of tomorrow to be able to tell me, in their own words, why things work or do not, without being the square peg hammered through some round die.
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Forget the criticisms of his first term. His position on ObamaCare, his new expensive spending plans, his lack of any interest in addressing the entitlement issue except to attack those that do, his embracing of  support from BLM(which wasn’t really their support but he embraced it nonetheless), his hinting at using the federal government as a tool for his retribution, and now this makes the only arguments left for supporting Trump more based on emotion

Expect it to get worse in the coming months

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We understand you not liking our negative comments towards Mr. Trump, but are more interested in yours and hopefully @Right_in_Virginia  's reaction to the subject at hand......   Trump's proposal to seize individual university's endowment funds for his vision of an American University.
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This needs to be posted at TOS.

Not to mention threads for his other proposals on his site.

So sick of this dude and the butt-kissers of his minions.
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We understand you not liking our negative comments towards Mr. Trump, but are more interested in yours and hopefully @Right_in_Virginia  's reaction to the subject at hand......   Trump's proposal to seize individual university's endowment funds for his vision of an American University.

LOL!  if his intent was to nationally franchise "Hillsdale College", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Half the people hate us as Deplorables.  And half the people in our own tent hate the other half.

What he is proposing doesn't make any sense to me. 
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LOL!  if his intent was to nationally franchise "Hillsdale College", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Half the people hate us as Deplorables.  And half the people in our own tent hate the other half.

What he is proposing doesn't make any sense to me.

Thanks....   Though we don't always agree, I can say you have a high degree of honesty and sincerity.

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LOL!  if his intent was to nationally franchise "Hillsdale College", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Half the people hate us as Deplorables.  And half the people in our own tent hate the other half.

What he is proposing doesn't make any sense to me. 

Ok, I have to give props where it is due. I can't believe a moment of saneness from the other side.

Thank you DC. Now did I miss @sneakypete giving his two cents on the matter. How about it @Right_in_Virginia
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LOL!  if his intent was to nationally franchise "Hillsdale College", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

The reason Hillsdale College is such a great school is because they don't receive any government money.  Yet now you advocate that the Federal government come in and seize money from other private schools at the point of a gun and give that money to Hillsdale?  Wow.  Just wow.  The Democrat is strong in you.
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What I just don't get is how those who claim to be on the right don't see what happens to the "American Academy" when the next Democrat takes office.  The reason conservatives have traditionally opposed expansions of government power is because of how easily they can be twisted by the other side when they're in power.  You limit the authority of the government to limit both sides.

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Ok, I have to give props where it is due. I can't believe a moment of saneness from the other side.

Thank you DC. Now did I miss @sneakypete giving his two cents on the matter. How about it @Right_in_Virginia

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The anti-Trumps seemed to enjoy the thread even without my help.  Ah, it's nice to see the grasshoppers are growing up.

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