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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2023, 06:34:53 pm »
The GOP Healthcare Plan is unassisted euthaniasia ... just let 'em die, like God intended.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2023, 06:44:35 pm »
All Trump's hype and talk is all it is...he's making promises or suggestions. First he has to secure the oval office, then he needs to keep promises. He didn't keep many his last term and his policies were excluded during the first few days of Brandon's reign of terror.

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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2023, 08:53:23 pm »
https://citizenwatchreport.com/60-of-adults-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-federal-reserve-report-reveals-lowest-ability-to-cover-2000-expense-in-a-decade-as-disposable-incomes-decline/

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And some of you want Obamacare "gone".    **nononono*

Loosely speaking, the reason everybody is broke is BECAUSE of Obamacare

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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2023, 09:00:11 pm »
Loosely speaking, the reason everybody is broke is BECAUSE of Obamacare

Yep! 

But let's clarify here.

He said he's looking for an off ramp...alternative.  For those that may qualify.

In the meantime, he should campaign on revoking special waivers for Capitol Hill and staff so that they are in the same stinking pile of manure as everyone else.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2023, 09:07:44 pm »
Despite the fact that evidence keeps piling up how much government messes up everything it gets involved in, there are still people that believe it’ll be different when they control it  because “they’ll do it right”

MAGAs share that same trait with socialist
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2023, 12:18:38 am »
Yep! 

But let's clarify here.

He said he's looking for an off ramp...alternative.

Here's an alternative for you.  GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE HELL OUT OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE BUSINESS.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2023, 12:21:56 am »
He said he's looking for an off ramp...alternative.  For those that may qualify.

He's had two and a half years to come up with specifics rather than the vague "alternative" that can mean anything to anyone.

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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2023, 12:22:38 am »
   We were on the OFF RAMP but someone that Trump unnecessarily denigrated voted to spite Trump and force US back on the Highway of Socialism.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2023, 12:27:44 am »
   We were on the OFF RAMP but someone that Trump unnecessarily denigrated voted to spite Trump and force US back on the Highway of Socialism.

Bingo.

That doesn't excuse what McCain did.   If he was running for reelection, that would deservedly sink him.

But just because McCain was petty and vindictive doesn't excuse Trump.  Trump deliberately antagonized someone he knew to be petty and vindictive, either because of Trump's own sheer stupidity, lack of self-control, or because he simply didn't care about the consequences because he thinks public insults are "funny".

Regardless, between the two of them, they killed the repeal of most of Obamacare.  And Trump is the one running for reelection now, so....
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2023, 12:36:22 am »
Here's an alternative for you.  GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE HELL OUT OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE BUSINESS.

ALL of us feel that way.

Again..for chrissakes...live in the REAL WORLD!  You can't repeal Obamacare and go tell people to find their own coverage.

So...we can say "we told you so!", but maybe here's a plan similar to what the House and Senate are getting...can you afford this?

A piggyback premium payable quarterly, depending on the number of people in the family.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2023, 12:37:35 am »
ALL of us feel that way.

Again..for chrissakes...live in the REAL WORLD!  You can't repeal Obamacare and go tell people to find their own coverage.

Why not?
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2023, 12:41:23 am »
Why not?

Because the "MARKET" doesn't exist since Obamacare became the law of the land.

This isn't going to be an instant turnaround, like President Trump making the United States, energy independent and an exporter.

All the money they invested in drilling...gone.

Burn me once...shame on you.  Burn me twice?

I would imagine it would take years for it to become workable and by that time, the Democrats will have toppled the government.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2023, 12:42:35 am »
ALL of us feel that way.

Again..for chrissakes...live in the REAL WORLD!  You can't repeal Obamacare and go tell people to find their own coverage.


That IS the real world.

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« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2023, 12:43:48 am »
That IS the real world.

Says Grizzly Adams...   :tongue2:   :silly:
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2023, 12:46:43 am »
Says Grizzly Adams...   :tongue2:   :silly:

That is EXACTLY what qualifies me to declare it to you.

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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2023, 12:48:03 am »
Because the "MARKET" doesn't exist since Obamacare became the law of the land.

So let the market restore itself.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2023, 12:52:05 am »
  The Market is there, it's called the obummercare Marketplace.  It's where all *Low Income people have to go to get Gov subsidized Healthcare, isn't it mandatory?   These people can be easily trained to sell something else more compatible with Capitalism.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2023, 12:53:08 am »
What is Trump going to throw at wall next to see if sticks.....again? More of the things he campaigned on the very first time around and didn't do? I know, I know, this time as a four year lame duck president he w3ill really really do it since he won't be able to run again!

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« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2023, 12:55:38 am »
   Subsidize Prostitutes for everyone that needs a little Lovin.
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2023, 01:33:22 am »
How about no insurance at all? All cash on the barrelhead...
How about removing most of the tax burden from families caring for their elderly and infirm?

Let families hold their wealth like they should?

The very minute government is out of the way, reality asserts itself... pricing goes way down, especially as competition arises from other health systems...

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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2023, 02:01:07 am »
How about no insurance at all? All cash on the barrelhead...
How about removing most of the tax burden from families caring for their elderly and infirm?

Let families hold their wealth like they should?

The very minute government is out of the way, reality asserts itself... pricing goes way down, especially as competition arises from other health systems...
Sounds like a plan. :beer:
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2023, 02:40:07 am »
ALL of us feel that way.

Again..for chrissakes...live in the REAL WORLD!  You can't repeal Obamacare and go tell people to find their own coverage.

Government has no business in healthcare is what a conservative would say. This isn't the first time Trump has gone Mitt Romney on us.


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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2023, 02:56:08 am »
Loosely speaking, the reason everybody is broke is BECAUSE of Obamacare

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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2023, 02:57:03 am »
The very minute government is out of the way, reality asserts itself... pricing goes way down, especially as competition arises from other health systems...

Correctamundo !!!
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Re: Trump claims he is ‘seriously’ looking at ObamaCare alternatives
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2023, 01:04:55 pm »
https://citizenwatchreport.com/60-of-adults-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-federal-reserve-report-reveals-lowest-ability-to-cover-2000-expense-in-a-decade-as-disposable-incomes-decline/

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November 28, 2023 1:02 pm by CWR

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And some of you want Obamacare "gone".    **nononono*

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