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« on: November 12, 2023, 01:59:34 pm »
Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trump from ballot
Trump is facing multiple efforts in states across the nation to remove him from ballot using 14th Amendment
 By Brooke Singman Fox News

The Minnesota Supreme Court this week dismissed a lawsuit attempting to keep former President Trump off the ballot in the state, a decision that could impact efforts to prevent Trump from appearing on ballots in Colorado and Michigan.

The lawsuits seek to use the Disqualifications Clause, or Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

That clause bars individuals who have "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against America or who have aided those engaged in such activities from holding office.

The lawsuits cite Trump’s alleged involvement in the Capitol riot Jan. 6, 2021.

"There is no state statute that prohibits a major political party from placing on the presidential nomination primary ballot, or sending delegates to the national convention supporting, a candidate who is ineligible to hold office," Minnesota Supreme Court Chief Justice Natalie Hudson ruled.

The ruling potentially leaves open the possibility Trump could be kept off the ballot during the general election next November.

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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2023, 02:42:15 pm »
No

Unless and until he’s convicted of something that can keep him off the ballot, the answer is no
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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2023, 03:05:53 pm »
SCOTUS needs to decide this once and for all, and quick.
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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2023, 10:55:03 pm »
The Colorado state courts will move to bar Mr. Trump from the ballot.

In Michigan, it's a toss-up.

Vulcan is right -- this needs to get pushed up to the Supreme Court quickly.
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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2023, 11:15:32 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on November 12, 2023, 10:55:03 pm
The Colorado state courts will move to bar Mr. Trump from the ballot.

In Michigan, it's a toss-up.

Vulcan is right -- this needs to get pushed up to the Supreme Court quickly.

Right, and that's why the Minnesota decision isn't really a good thing.  I don't plan on voting for the guy, but I still don't like abuse of the legal system for partisan purposes.
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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2023, 12:29:25 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 12, 2023, 11:15:32 pm
Right, and that's why the Minnesota decision isn't really a good thing.  I don't plan on voting for the guy, but I still don't like abuse of the legal system for partisan purposes.

PA did the same thing to Cruz and he prevailed.  Each state is different.
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Re: Decisions in 14th Amendment cases could impact pending Colorado, Michigan efforts to remove Trum
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2023, 11:01:14 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on November 13, 2023, 12:29:25 am
PA did the same thing to Cruz and he prevailed.  Each state is different.

Yes, but it would be better if at least one blue state ruled against him sooner rather than later so he could get a challenge heading up the appeals pipeline. Otherwise, it's going to be a whole bunch of cases being argued/decided in a relatively short period of time.  Better to get clarity.
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