A Watershed Moment for Jews

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October 31, 2023
A Watershed Moment for Jews
By Robert Weissberg

What dominates the mass media is often fleeting importance for the enduring political landscape. Nevertheless, some events can harbinger momentous changes despite their initial ordinary nature. A particularly telling example was the initial shift of small number of White Southern Democrats into the Republican Party in 1964, a little-noticed event that foretold the shift of nearly all Southern Whites into the GOP. Such shifts are tectonic insofar as they may eventually fundamentally change the political landscape.

We may now be experiencing a tectonic shift of major magnitude, namely the exodus of Jews from liberalism. The triggering event is the Hamas savagery on Oct 7th in Israel and, of equal importance, the support of many Americans for this barbarism. These two events are a double wakeup call for many American Jews -- who could imagine anybody celebrating the beheading of babies, nor thousands of Americans, often at elite universities, denouncing Israel as an apartheid, genocidal colonial regime?

Anti-Semitism per se is not the issue. Such hostility is part of American life but, thankfully, it usually involve isolated incidents such as defacing synagogues or assaulting Jews dressed in Hasidic garb. The very worst is shootings Jews at prayer, typically by mentally ill loners.

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[Maj. Bill Martin]

I'll believe the majority of American Jews leave the Democratic Party when I see it...which will be never.

They'll grumble at the rest of their party's coalition now, but when this war ends, domestic issues will take priority once again.

[240B]

I have said this for years. I was always confused why Jews were so adamant about furiously supporting people and organizations which were obviously antisemitic. Most Jews called me 'teepesh' (foolish) and 'meshuga' (crazy) for saying that Palestinians want to kill all Jews and that the Globalist Liberal movement(s) are largely antisemitic. Like in Germany, they were in complete denial. They utterly refused to accept the reality which was slapping them in the face. They continued to believe what they 'wanted' to believe instead of accepting the words and actions of their enemies no matter how many bombings, murders, kidnappings, happened daily.

When I said they were wasting their time trying to make peace with fanatical murderers, I became the enemy instead of the actual terrorists. The gist was, they believed themselves to be intellectual/enlightened, and myself and people like me are stupid and primitive.

This event and the aftermath will have a seismic effect on the general Jewish psyche. Unfortunately it took something this catastrophic to shake Jews out of their naïve slumber. If it had been just another mall bombing, or just another isolated attack on Jews at a university, as horrible as that is, Liberal Jews have become so used to it they would barely have blinked an eye as they have done for decades. However, October 7 can not be denied or excused as "the price of peace" as Yitzhak Rabin notably said. In this attack, Jews were 'forced' to finally look at the true face of evil, with Palestinians and around the world. We can only hope they will take this example to heart.

[goatprairie]

American Jews have been wedded to the Dem Party for well over a century.
 When they came to American in large numbers in the latter half of the 19th century, the Dems were the party that welcomed them while the Republican Party shunned them like they shunned most immigrants who weren't from England or the British Isles.
 Many Jews associated Republicans with the people who kept them out of elite colleges and jobs.
Of course, many Jews today favor very liberal social policies like abortion and lavish spending on social policies.
And to be sure Jews were very prominent in the civil rights battles of the 20th century that helped gain blacks rights.
The ironic thing is that blacks don't love Jews back much. That saying about no good deed goes unpunished where millions of blacks don't seem to be the least bit grateful for the work and lives Jews have given for the civil rights movement.
You would think that the present situation with most conservatives supporting Israel and only lukewarm support from many liberals would change a lot of minds. We shall see.

[Free Vulcan]

This event and the aftermath will have a seismic effect on the general Jewish psyche. Unfortunately it took something this catastrophic to shake Jews out of their naïve slumber. If it had been just another mall bombing, or just another isolated attack on Jews at a university, as horrible as that is, Liberal Jews have become so used to it they would barely have blinked an eye as they have done for decades. However, October 7 can not be denied or excused as "the price of peace" as Yitzhak Rabin notably said. In this attack, Jews were 'forced' to finally look at the true face of evil, with Palestinians and around the world. We can only hope they will take this example to heart.

I believe this is the spur that will move them to become more religious and nationalistic, and ultimately result in the rebuilding of the Temple, as predicted.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

This event and the aftermath will have a seismic effect on the general Jewish psyche.

Jews can be just as blind to their own interests as anyone else.  Remember that Jewish protest in the Capitol a week or so ago where they were singing all those whacked songs, etc.?  There are a shit-ton of leftist Jews in the U.S., and probably some in Israel, who will blame Israeli policies for the attack.  "We backed the Palestinians into a corner and they lashed out.  That's Israel's fault."  That's how some of those people will think.   I know the saying that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged, but it's not enough to see some other liberal get mugged.  It has to be them.  And these aren't the people in kibbutzs who were fighting off annihilation.

I mean, there are plenty of stupid white people who celebrate it as some sort of righteousness when someone black kills someone white.  I don't think Jews are any more immune to that kind of ideological brainwashing than are any other white (or even black for that matter) progressives.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Will these events spur American Jews to protect themselves, their families and businesses?  Yes.

Will these events spur American Jews to forgo their socialist roots?  No. 

[goatprairie]

Jews can be just as blind to their own interests as anyone else.  Remember that Jewish protest in the Capitol a week or so ago where they were singing all those whacked songs, etc.?  There are a shit-ton of leftist Jews in the U.S., and probably some in Israel, who will blame Israeli policies for the attack.  "We backed the Palestinians into a corner and they lashed out.  That's Israel's fault."  That's how some of those people will think.   I know the saying that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged, but it's not enough to see some other liberal get mugged.  It has to be them.  And these aren't the people in kibbutzs who were fighting off annihilation.

I mean, there are plenty of stupid white people who celebrate it as some sort of righteousness when someone black kills someone white.  I don't think Jews are any more immune to that kind of ideological brainwashing than are any other white (or even black for that matter) progressives.

The failure of the liberal press to present the truth about the situation I believe has a lot to with many young people supporting the terrorists.
The media should be heavily dispensing the fact that the Palies were offered their own state at the founding of the modern state of Israel and turned it down. They didn't want any Jews in the land called Palestine....which was never an independent, Arab-Muslim run country and always had a certain Jewish population.
How many of the ignoramuses churned out by our nation's "elite" institutions of higher learning know that?
The sad fact is the Palies have had their chances and turned them down every time.
The best solution now is to relocate all the Gazans to some territory not close to Israel. Enough is enough.

[Fishrrman]

Liberal, secular Jews (at least those in America) aren't going to change.

Very, very few will change their voting patterns. I reckon if it's 3% of them, that will be "a lot".

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Horribly misleading pro-Palestinian crap from NPR.  No surprise there.

They mention the 1967 War, but don't bother to mention how it came about.  They mention how Israel got all this additional territory many times it size in the aftermath of winning the war that was supposed to annihilate Israel itself, but never mention how much of it they have given back since then.

Complete leftist hatchet job.