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Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« on: October 29, 2023, 01:29:42 pm »
 Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
by Julia Manchester - 10/29/23 6:00 AM ET

Democrats are seeking to make new Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) a boogeyman going into next year’s general election, citing his conservative voting record in the House.

Following Johnson’s election Wednesday, President Biden’s reelection campaign blasted out a fundraising email, calling Johnson “a Trump lackey.” Meanwhile, the House Democratic campaign arm sent messaging guidance, referring to Johnson as “Jim Jordan in a sports coat.”

Even in Virginia, the state Democratic party warned that Johnson’s election makes the state’s Legislature elections next month “more important.”

The party is betting Johnson’s ardent support of former President Trump and record on issues like same-sex marriage, abortion and overturning the 2020 election results will backfire on swing and independent voters.

“MAGA Mike certainly gives us the necessary tools to put in our toolbox to be able to build a case,” said Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist.

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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2023, 01:32:49 pm »
I personally hope they stick with that right through election day!
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2023, 01:56:34 pm »
MAGA/Mega MAGA = Demspeak for "Nazi".

It is pure accusation and propaganda of the ad hominem variety, practiced by experts at the craft of demonizing the opposition in order to avoid fact-based arguments and discussion.   
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2023, 02:06:29 pm »
MAGA/Mega MAGA = Demspeak for "Nazi".

It is pure accusation and propaganda of the ad hominem variety, practiced by experts at the craft of demonizing the opposition in order to avoid fact-based arguments and discussion.

 :yowsa: and I doubt the voting public is as stupid as they think.
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2023, 03:36:49 pm »
Everyone here take note of this.  They NEVER did this with McCarthy.  They NEVER did this with Ryan.  They NEVER did this with McConnell.  Thank you, Matt Gaetz.  G-d bless Speaker Johnson.
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2023, 03:50:02 pm »
MAGA/Mega MAGA = Demspeak for "Nazi".

It is pure accusation and propaganda of the ad hominem variety, practiced by experts at the craft of demonizing the opposition in order to avoid fact-based arguments and discussion.

True

But it has worked for the Democrats, electorally speaking
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2023, 08:51:12 pm »
I personally hope they stick with that right through election day!

Obviously won't work in some districts, but likely will be effective in swing districts against moderate Republicans.

:yowsa: and I doubt the voting public is as stupid as they think.

Have you seen some of the people in Congress?  And the guy in the White House??
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2023, 08:51:47 pm »
Everyone here take note of this.  They NEVER did this with McCarthy.  They NEVER did this with Ryan.  They NEVER did this with McConnell.  Thank you, Matt Gaetz.  G-d bless Speaker Johnson.

Why is that a positive?

I'm not saying he was wrong to say any any of it at the time, especially given the district he was from.  It's just that given his new, much higher profile position, statements that helped him as a Representative of a red district might hurt others in blue or purple districts.
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2023, 08:53:24 pm »
Obviously won't work in some districts, but likely will be effective in swing districts against moderate Republicans.

Never can tell... Look what's happened to erstwhile purple Florida...

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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2023, 09:09:41 pm »
Never can tell... Look what's happened to erstwhile purple Florida...

Yes...but that was with a GOP candidate who was very disciplined in what he says, and never gave his opponents easy sound bites.

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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2023, 09:27:48 pm »
Yes...but that was with a GOP candidate who was very disciplined in what he says, and never gave his opponents easy sound bites.

Still... A true conservative won Dade County. That's a thing.

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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2023, 10:23:37 pm »
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Re: Democrats make Speaker Mike Johnson their new 2024 boogeyman
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 10:49:37 pm »
Why is that a positive?

Gee, I don't know.  Maybe it's because I don't want a Republican Speaker who gives the Democrats everything they want?  I'm just funny that way.  Clearly, the Democrats are not comfortable with Johnson as Speaker.  Yet they were perfectly comfortable with McCarthy and his continuing resolution, which basically gave them the same spending levels they got with Pelosi. 

So basically, if Democrats are saying all kinds of bad things against Johnson while not saying anything bad against McCarthy, it tells me that Democrats prefer McCarthy over Johnson.  And it tells me that Johnson is the better choice if I want to stop Democrat policies from being funded.  Is that really so difficult for you to understand?
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