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DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« on: October 20, 2023, 02:37:17 pm »
DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
The National Pulse, Oct 20, 2023

Florida Governor and Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis has now been tied for second place in the GOP race by Nikki Haley –  but while some in the GOP establishment and corporate media are hailing her as a “rising star” and urging DeSantis donors to defect to her, both are in single digits.

Donald Trump, on 59 percent, remains far ahead of his rivals, who are each on just eight percent, with Haley having gained five points, and DeSantis having lost four.

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2024 National Republican Primary

Trump 59% (=)
Haley 8% (+5)
DeSantis 8% (-4)
Christie 4% (-1)
Pence 3% (-2)
Ramaswamy 3% (-4)
Scott 1% (-1)
Burgum 1%
Johnson 1%
Hutchinson 1%
Elder 1%

[Change vs September]

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2023, 10:18:52 pm »
There's no way to spin this.
Those numbers are terrible.

They may even get WORSE by next January.

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2023, 10:26:43 pm »
That really shortens the list for the next debate if they keep the threshold at 4%.
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2023, 10:30:12 pm »
The problem is the pollsters are not asking the correct people.  Their sample is lousy with MAGA leg humpers.   

 
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2023, 10:32:50 pm »
According to those polls, the numbers just aren't there for any candidate other than Trump.  So, a year out from the election, everybody should just step down.  *****rollingeyes*****    :thud:

I'd say anyone at this point in time who isn't polling above 5% should be out of the race -- BUT Trump isn't debating, so, let those in the GOP field continue to debate.  What's the harm??
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2023, 10:36:50 pm »
I posted this off-the-wall prediction before, but I'll repeat.

There will be a third Republican "debate".

But there probably won't be a fourth one.

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2023, 11:42:24 pm »
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Wow! Looks like Ron DeSanctimonious has fallen to 3rd place, and heading down, in his ridiculous run to be President. Destroying Social Security and Medicare hasn’t exactly helped him! In the important Emerson Poll, he’s dropped to 8%, 51 Points behind his favorite President, ME. Birdbrain, who may be even worse, is fighting it out with others for a very distant 2nd place. The last debate was the lowest rated debate in history. The next and probably last one, in Miami, will do even worse. Republicans should not debate, they should UNITE in defeating the WORST & MOST INCOMPETENT ADMINISTRATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2023, 11:46:56 pm »
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"Destroying Social Security and Medicare hasn’t exactly helped him!"

And there he goes attacking a Republican from the perspective of a typical big-spending liberal.

Again.
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2023, 12:05:00 am »
   I smell oxygen in that room, let me suck it out.

Why thank you.  :beer: happy77
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2023, 12:23:12 am »
There's no way to spin this.
Those numbers are terrible.

They may even get WORSE by next January.

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True,but the truth is nobody knows how the chips are going to fall until they are counted.

I am obviously a Trump supporter and his numbers look VERY good to me,but things like that can change as fast as an eye blink. Sometimes with what SEEMS like no discernible reason.

After all,would YOU have thought a senile old fool and crook would end up as President,and not even bother to try to cover up his family corruption. Hell,he even seems proud of it.

Seems like even the DNC would have more pride than that,but they obviously don't. It would be insulting to a street whore crack addict to compare her to anybody in the Biden family.

Yet,there really are millions of fools chomping at the bit to get him re-elected.

Some of them are even Americans.
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2023, 12:24:05 am »
The problem is the pollsters are not asking the correct people.  Their sample is lousy with MAGA leg humpers.

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2023, 01:02:09 am »
And there he goes attacking a Republican from the perspective of a typical big-spending liberal.

Again.

The Trump plan for Social Security, and Medicare is similar to the Democrat plan. Tax, borrow, and print. Somebody needs to explain to Donald what’s the term unfunded liabilities mean

Donald Trump left office with an economy in shambles, a debt level that further threatens  the economic well-being of the country, tariffs that put us into a trade war, and created  the basis for the inflation we are seeing today

Why would any conservative, or any sane person, vote for four more years of that?
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2023, 02:04:24 am »
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DeSantis-Haley feud escalates with dueling attack ads
Politico, Oct 20, 2023

In the escalating feud between Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, the super PAC supporting the Florida governor is going up with a new ad portraying Haley as flip-flopping over aid to Palestinians in Gaza.

The social media ad, shared with POLITICO in advance of its release on Friday, comes hours after a pro-Haley PAC put out a spot mocking the Florida governor.

The ad wars punctuate a week of intensifying conflict between the GOP presidential candidates, who are drawing closer in early-state polls. For months, DeSantis held steady in second place, trailing Donald Trump but comfortably ahead of his other rivals.

But following a strong debate performance in August, Haley has inched up in the polls; she now leads DeSantis in New Hampshire and South Carolina, while he is ahead of her in Iowa.


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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2023, 02:04:58 am »
Let's all cut the crap, okay?

This country has been under a Coup for the past THREE YEARS.

Let me remind you all, if Donald Trump wouldn't have won in 2016, there would be NO Second Amendment right now.

THAT is how bleeping close we are to becoming a Totalitarian State...The United States Socialist Republic.

You all should light a candle in front of the Baby Jesus TONIGHT and pray Donald Trump wins in 2024.

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2023, 02:11:10 am »
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Nikki Haley hits back at 'desperate' DeSantis amid Florida governor's presidential campaign
ABC News 4, Oct 20, 2023

Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley is reacting to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's presidential campaign after his recent stop in the Palmetto State.

DeSantis, who entered the presidential race in May, made a stop at Saltwater Cowboys in Mount Pleasant Friday morning for a meet and greet.

In a release, the Haley's team says DeSantis's campaign is "in freefall, plagued by terrible headlines, incompetence, staff firings, and too many reboots to count."

The release goes on to say that DeSantis's attacks on Haley are "desperate."

“Ron DeSantis’ campaign has been five months of one disaster after another,” Haley's campaign spokesman Ken Farnaso said. “Now, as his campaign takes its last breath, he’s lying about Nikki Haley’s record because he’s desperate. It’s not a good look. Voters are rallying behind Nikki Haley’s strength and toughness in the face of increasing threats across the world. They know she will make America strong and proud.”

Haley's team ended the release with saying DeSantis has a "Nikki Haley problem."


https://abcnews4.com/news/local/nikki-haley-hits-back-at-desperate-desantis-amid-florida-governors-presidential-campaign-palmetto-state-south-carolina-mount-pleasant

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
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Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley’s Gaza refugee fight spills onto airwaves with duelings ads
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2023, 02:14:11 am »
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2023, 02:15:47 am »
Let's all cut the crap, okay?

This country has been under a Coup for the past THREE YEARS.

Let me remind you all, if Donald Trump wouldn't have won in 2016, there would be NO Second Amendment right now.

THAT is how bleeping close we are to becoming a Totalitarian State...The United States Socialist Republic.

You all should light a candle in front of the Baby Jesus TONIGHT and pray Donald Trump wins in 2024.

And keep the damned thing lit.

Donald Trump is promising more tariffs

Donald Trump is promising more spending and more borrowing

Donald Trump has also suggested that he would pressure the federal reserve to lower interest rate all while we are in an inflationary economy

The last time, a republican held office and we went to an economic crisis, we ended up with Barack Obama and Obamacare. Look at the state of the Democrat party today and picture what would happen if Donald Trump got a second term and we went into an economic crisis?

Say hello to President Cori Bush

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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2023, 02:18:38 am »
Looks like at least two people are taking these polls seriously.

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2023, 02:22:41 am »
Polls this early out are not necessarily an indication of what the ultimate results will be down the road

But there’s no question that Ron DeSantis’s campaign is struggling currently

And it’s too bad. Because Joe Biden and his democrat party are low hanging fruit. And yet GOP primary voters are ready to give them the gift of Donald Trump.

Trump endorsed candidates fell short in 2022 when the voters were unhappy with the condition of the country and Joe Biden. So it seems that voters by and large decided to put up with the condition of the country for a little while longer instead of handing MAGA candidates the reins of power
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2023, 02:25:23 am »
Cold day in Hell before I vote for either Trump or bitch Haley!!!!!!

Both suck.....
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2023, 02:27:17 am »
Cold day in Hell before I vote for either Trump or bitch Haley!!!!!!

Both suck.....

Why don’t you like Nikki Haley?

She’s not really my choice of candidate, but in all honesty, I don’t know that terribly much about her
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Re: DATA: DeSantis is Now Tied in 2nd Place with Nikki Haley.
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2023, 02:32:25 am »
Why don’t you like Nikki Haley?

She’s not really my choice of candidate, but in all honesty, I don’t know that terribly much about her

Everytime I think she's not that bad, she says something stupid, like that we should take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza.

She's better than Trump or Biden, but talk about subterranean low bars....
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2023, 02:33:34 am »
Everytime I think I could vote for her, she says something stupid, like that we should take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza.

NO!!!!!!

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2023, 02:34:10 am »
NO!!!!!!

That's currently one of her pissing matches with DeSantis.