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Re: Matt Gaetz: I Will Move to Oust McCarthy as Speaker this Week
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2023, 06:31:07 pm »

Sorry, but the so-called patriots are in the minority.

Aren't they always...

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Re: Matt Gaetz: I Will Move to Oust McCarthy as Speaker this Week
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2023, 06:55:29 pm »
Typical excuse making for the Establishment Loyalists.

The Patriots were fighting for a return to passing appropriation bills instead of a CR and then later an omnibus bill.

But that's not what you said.  You said the "Establishment Loyalists" were fighting to avoid "any reduction," which is demonstrably not true because they actually voted for one.

If you want to accuse them of not being willing to do an indefinite shutdown simply to try to do separate appropriations bills, that would be accurate.

Of course, the problem is that the GOP caucus itself cannot agree on a spending level for each of those 12 bills, so they'd actually be shutting down the government to advance bills that literally do not exist.

More importantly, that's not the fault of the Democrats, or the Senate - it's the House Republicans themselves who can't pass those bills.  So what you literally had was House Republicans shutting down the government because House Republicans can't agree on spending bills.

Shouldn't surprise anyone that a majority of House Republicans weren't willing to commit that kind of political suicide.
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Re: Matt Gaetz: I Will Move to Oust McCarthy as Speaker this Week
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2023, 09:35:27 pm »
Aren't they always...

Unfortunately yes. What does the GOP truly stand for these days?? They are not united for certain.
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Re: Matt Gaetz: I Will Move to Oust McCarthy as Speaker this Week
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2023, 02:01:27 am »
Unfortunately yes. What does the GOP truly stand for these days?? They are not united for certain.

I think the GOP is generally united on some big issues. But the more into the details you get, the more differences of opinion you are going to find because nobody is 100% united on everything.  The problem is that with such a tiny margin in the House, we pretty much have to be almost 100% united to get things passed.  And when you're talking about 12 separate appropriations bills having to total at or below a certain number, it's almost impossible to get that much agreement.
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