Ron DeSantis' Throws Down the Gauntlet, Challenges Trump to One-on-One Debate: 'I'm Ready for It'

[Right_in_Virginia]

Maybe, but when Trump says no to a debate, it makes him sound like he's a-feared of "DeSanctimonius," or whatever the stupid nickname du jour might be.

Nothing in the polls supports this thesis.  And, everything at last night's debate proved again that Trump's instincts and decision to forego the not ready for primetime ankle biters and the RNC approved "moderators" were right.

Besides, Trump appears to be crossing the Rubicon from a primary to national campaign ---- and last night he went a long way in keeping Michigan in play in 2024.  This is much more important than anything or anyone on the debate stage last night.

[LMAO]

Hillary Clinton in the 2007 -2008 Democrat primary season started flipping from a primary campaign to a general election campaign before the votes came in

Didn’t work that well for her in the end. I don’t think Trump is that confident that his lead in the 2024 GOP presidential primary is carved in stone. If you look back at his endorsed candidates in 2022, many of them needed help from left-wing groups to get them over the top in their primary races

I have no doubt that a good number of those striking workers will probably vote for him. But it’s not enough.

[libertybele]

Nothing in the polls supports this thesis.  And, everything at last night's debate proved again that Trump's instincts and decision to forego the not ready for primetime ankle biters and the RNC approved "moderators" were right.

Besides, Trump appears to be crossing the Rubicon from a primary to national campaign ---- and last night he went a long way in keeping Michigan in play in 2024.  This is much more important than anything or anyone on the debate stage last night.

Only problem with that thesis is that there were those in attendance who weren't members of the UAW -- so how many people did he truly reach last night?  Especially with Trump reportedly telling them that their strike "won't make a damn bit of difference".

[GtHawk]

Gauntlet??   

Pro-tip, Ronny:  Donald Trump is not saving your political a$$ again.  You want stature?  Go earn it.

[mountaineer]

Rubicon, eh? 

[DefiantMassRINO]

 

Is this goiong down at 3:00 PM in the back schoolyard?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Only problem with that thesis is that there were those in attendance who weren't members of the UAW --

Actually, while the speech was given from a non-union shop,  members of the UAW were there.  In fact, many heard of Trump's appearance only by word of mouth and arrived too late to get inside.  So, a sizable crowd lingered outside to listen. Trump's visit and his speech are in the union pipeline, for sure. 

BTW,, if interested, there are videos from members and non-members from last night available on Al Gore's magnificent Internet.

Trump was very effective in Michigan last night --- and this is a very good thing.

[libertybele]

Actually, while the speech was given from a non-union shop,  members of the UAW were there.  In fact, many heard of Trump's appearance only by word of mouth and arrived too late to get inside.  So, a sizable crowd lingered outside to listen. Trump's visit and his speech are in the union pipeline, for sure. 

BTW,, if interested, there are videos from members and non-members from last night available on Al Gore's magnificent Internet.

Trump was very effective in Michigan last night --- and this is a very good thing.

Thank you for your assessment and opinion.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Rubicon, eh? 

Yes.
 

cross the Rubicon
to do something that you cannot later change and will strongly influence future events.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Thank you for your assessment and opinion.

You're welcome for the facts, too ----- also free of charge.   

[Fishrrman]

As I said in reply 1, I didn't watch the "debate" (and won't be watching any others).

Welcome back, RinVa.

A question for the many ne'ertrumpers of this forum:

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Granted, it will be a tough roe to hoe.

But for any OTHER of the "seven dwarves" on tv last night, it would be an order of magnitude more difficult. As in, "impossible".

Waiting to see if:
- RFK Jr. bolts and runs as an independent
- Cornell West (that's his name, right?) runs as a third party candidate to the left of the DCommunists...

[LMAO]

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Nothing. What can we do? I didn’t vote for him in 2016 but I accepted that he was the newly elected president

[catfish1957]

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

I guess sit back and watch him propose and possibly execute $15T in Freedom cities, add another $7T in sovereign debt, give people bonuses foir having babies, and all the other left wing populist bullshit he might come up with,  and then have the GOP blamed for it?

Sounds like a winner huh?   

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Only problem with that thesis is that there were those in attendance who weren't members of the UAW -- so how many people did he truly reach last night?  Especially with Trump reportedly telling them that their strike "won't make a damn bit of difference".

Well, he reached whatever non-auto worker (union or not) supporters of his showed up pretending they were autoworkers.  Of course, he obviously reached them a long time ago, so I'm not sure it helped him at all.

Might have hurt him to have appeared at a non-union plant in the middle of a strike, though.  If there's one thing most union people don't like, it is non-union employers.

[libertybele]

You're welcome for the facts, too ----- also free of charge.   

Same old same old.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Nothing to do but:

 

I think it would be an absolute sh!tshow if he wins the election, but at least we'd be living in interesting times, eh?  So maybe try to extract whatever political entertainment factor may exist, and have some laughs.

The one thing I wouldn't do is defend the guy from...anything, really.   Did a lot of that from 2016 to 2020, but that's over.

[GtHawk]

As I said in reply 1, I didn't watch the "debate" (and won't be watching any others).

Welcome back, RinVa.

A question for the many ne'ertrumpers of this forum:

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Granted, it will be a tough roe to hoe.

But for any OTHER of the "seven dwarves" on tv last night, it would be an order of magnitude more difficult. As in, "impossible".

Waiting to see if:
- RFK Jr. bolts and runs as an independent
- Cornell West (that's his name, right?) runs as a third party candidate to the left of the DCommunists...

If Trump does somehow win the election I am going to predict we lose the House and democrats keep the Senate and we will see a four year lame duck presidency where once again anything done will be by EO an erased as soon as the next democrat president is sworn in...probably right after Trump's presidency again.

[LMAO]

Nothing to do but:

 

I think it would be an absolute sh!tshow if he wins the election, but at least we'd be living in interesting times, eh?  So maybe try to extract whatever political entertainment factor may exist, and have some laughs.

The one thing I wouldn't do is defend the guy from...anything, really.   Did a lot of that from 2016 to 2020, but that's over.

We have to also hope that his next tenure doesn’t result in a President Elizabeth Warren

[Kamaji]

We have to also hope that his next tenure doesn’t result in a President Elizabeth Warren

[Maj. Bill Martin]

We have to also hope that his next tenure doesn’t result in a President Elizabeth Warren

It could, but I think three 80 year old Presidents in a row would be too much for most people.  But maybe we get a President AOC!

[LMAO]

It could, but I think three 80 year old Presidents in a row would be too much for most people.  But maybe we get a President AOC!

Or a President Rashida Tliab

[Smokin Joe]

But it's one that there is a zero percent chance Trump will accept, and everyone knows it.   So it looks to me like desperation.

I think it would be a good thing, but that's me.

I can see Trump not wanting to be caught up in the mass debate. That mass debation was hard for anyone to watch, but one on one, same question to both, same time to answer, I'd like to see that.

[Smokin Joe]

As I said in reply 1, I didn't watch the "debate" (and won't be watching any others).

Welcome back, RinVa.

A question for the many ne'ertrumpers of this forum:

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Granted, it will be a tough roe to hoe.

But for any OTHER of the "seven dwarves" on tv last night, it would be an order of magnitude more difficult. As in, "impossible".

Waiting to see if:
- RFK Jr. bolts and runs as an independent
- Cornell West (that's his name, right?) runs as a third party candidate to the left of the DCommunists...

Gee, you are a fisherman hoeing roe and all that....

[bigheadfred]

Honestly, this sounds rather desperate.

Best thing DeSantis can do to help his campaign at this point is to beat Newsome.

I wouldn't call it desperate. More like frustrated.

[Idiot]

As I said in reply 1, I didn't watch the "debate" (and won't be watching any others).

Welcome back, RinVa.

A question for the many ne'ertrumpers of this forum:

Whatcha gonna do if -- against all odds -- Mr. Trump actually wins the election?

Granted, it will be a tough roe to hoe.

But for any OTHER of the "seven dwarves" on tv last night, it would be an order of magnitude more difficult. As in, "impossible".

Waiting to see if:
- RFK Jr. bolts and runs as an independent
- Cornell West (that's his name, right?) runs as a third party candidate to the left of the DCommunists...

Trump cannot possibly win the general election.  It is a mathmatical impossibility.