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Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came along
« on: September 24, 2023, 01:25:30 pm »
Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came along
September 24, 2023 | Kevin Haggerty

Former President Donald Trump further cemented a moderate stance on the sanctity of life with a slam on “absolutely zero status” of the pro-life movement prior to his administration.

“Before our victory, they had nothing, and they will have nothing again…”

Famous for “The Art of the Deal,” the president’s stance in opposition to heartbeat bills, dubbed a “terrible thing” in a recent interview, carried with it all the hallmarks of Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

With setting the stage for the overturning of Roe v. Wade viewed by many as the greatest legacy of the his administration, Trump took to Truth Social Saturday night simultaneously taking credit for the achievement and bashing the outcome.

“Pro lifers had absolutely zero status on the subject of abortion until I came along. For 52 years everyone ‘talked,’ but got nothing. I GOT IT DONE! There would be no talk of a six week ban, or anything else, without me. Roe v. Wade allowed the killing of a baby at any time, including the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th month, and even after birth,” he began.

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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2023, 03:22:20 pm »
So Trump doesn't want us voting for him.  Got it.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2023, 03:38:59 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 24, 2023, 03:22:20 pm
So Trump doesn't want us voting for him.  Got it.

LOL!  Spend months here bragging how you're not going to give him your vote.

You're a fun guy!   Or, is that fungi?
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2023, 03:42:04 pm »
Two things:


This is where Trump is wrong: The 'Pro-life' movement had status before Trump was in office.
This is where Trump is right: I have to agree with Trump on that a 6-week abortion ban is wrong


However, it should be a state issue.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2023, 03:46:42 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2023, 03:42:04 pm
This is where Trump is right: I have to agree with Trump on that a 6-week abortion ban is wrong

However, it should be a state issue.

If it is a State issue, then Trump needs to have a coke and a smile and STFU.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2023, 03:49:42 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on September 24, 2023, 03:38:59 pm
LOL!  Spend months here bragging how you're not going to give him your vote.

And now you see why.  Trump takes 100% credit for Dobbs, and then pledges to circumvent it by overriding the abortion laws that States like mine chose to have.  You don't see a contradiction here?  The false premise here is that Trump supports Dobbs.  He doesn't.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2023, 04:16:01 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 24, 2023, 03:49:42 pm
And now you see why.  Trump takes 100% credit for Dobbs, and then pledges to circumvent it by overriding the abortion laws that States like mine chose to have.  You don't see a contradiction here?  The false premise here is that Trump supports Dobbs.  He doesn't.

The false premise here is that Donald Trump is Pro-Choice.

We watched for 50 years the SCOTUS ruling not be challenged.  It was President Trump's SCOTUS who repealed Roe v Wade.

You place blame on him for all the spending...you give him the credit when he occupied the Oval Office when Roe v Wade fell back to the States.

Stop your nonsense and use your scroll bar once in a while.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2023, 04:37:43 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on September 24, 2023, 04:16:01 pm
The false premise here is that Donald Trump is Pro-Choice.

Trump supports 'choice' [sic] at six weeks.  That's being Pro-Choice.


Quote from: DCPatriot on September 24, 2023, 04:16:01 pm
You place blame on him for all the spending...you give him the credit when he occupied the Oval Office when Roe v Wade fell back to the States.

I give him credit for yielding to the Federalist Society when it came to Supreme Court nominees.  It is a pattern with Trump to cede all of his decision making to entities that he knows little about.  At least with the Federalist Society, he lucked out.  So yes, I applaud Trump for Gorsuch and Barrett.  But keep in mind that it was the Great State of Mississippi that made this happen.  And now  Trump wants to take that victory away by imposing a federal law that will override the will of the people of Mississippi.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2023, 05:41:17 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on September 24, 2023, 04:16:01 pm
The false premise here is that Donald Trump is Pro-Choice.

By his own words he is pro-choice, @DCPatriot .

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We watched for 50 years the SCOTUS ruling not be challenged.  It was President Trump's SCOTUS who repealed Roe v Wade.


And now he is speaking AGAINST IT.

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You place blame on him for all the spending...you give him the credit when he occupied the Oval Office when Roe v Wade fell back to the States.

I did exactly that... The single thing he did that had a lasting mark... And he noiw, out of his own mouth, wants to overturn it...

BASHING CHRISTIANS as he does.

Tumpy has jumped the shark.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2023, 06:00:36 pm »
Again, the reversal of Roe v. Wade is pointless if Trump is just going to nullify the state laws.  17 states have meaningful restrictions on abortion.  Trump named an opening offer of 15 weeks, which is when less than 6% of abortions take place.  The democrats will insist on something like 24 weeks, and that may prevent 1% of abortions.   Donald's stance on late term abortion is largely irrelevant --- he is NOT pro-life.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2023, 06:18:19 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on September 24, 2023, 06:00:36 pm
Again, the reversal of Roe v. Wade is pointless if Trump is just going to nullify the state laws.  17 states have meaningful restrictions on abortion.  Trump named an opening offer of 15 weeks, which is when less than 6% of abortions take place.  The democrats will insist on something like 24 weeks, and that may prevent 1% of abortions.   Donald's stance on late term abortion is largely irrelevant --- he is NOT pro-life.

I think Trump's reversal on this is going to cost him the nomination and if he does become the nominee, it will cost him the general. I for one am tired of his backpedaling; something that he often does.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2023, 07:32:51 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2023, 03:42:04 pm
Two things:


This is where Trump is wrong: The 'Pro-life' movement had status before Trump was in office.
This is where Trump is right: I have to agree with Trump on that a 6-week abortion ban is wrong


However, it should be a state issue.

Agree with all the above
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2023, 07:53:29 pm »
Populist blow with the wind...
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2023, 08:02:40 pm »
Quote from: DB on September 24, 2023, 07:53:29 pm
Populist blow with the wind...

YUP.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2023, 08:21:45 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on September 24, 2023, 06:18:19 pm
I for one am tired of his backpedaling; something that he often does.

It's not backpedaling if he never pedaled forward to begin with.
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Re: Trump rejects 6-week abortion ban, says pro-lifers had ‘absolutely zero status’ until he came al
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2023, 08:30:27 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on September 24, 2023, 04:16:01 pm
We watched for 50 years the SCOTUS ruling not be challenged.  It was President Trump's SCOTUS who repealed Roe v Wade.

Yet by his comments, it is clear that he does not support this decision.  Roe blocked States from regulating abortion before a certain time period.  Donald Trump is advocating the exact same thing.
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