Donald Trump to Counter-Program Second GOP Debate by Appearing with Striking Auto Workers in Detroit

[corbe]

   He's pizzed because of that deal he made with Cruz for the meaningless Endorsement; The Federalist Society List.   
   His Sister, Mary, would have never returned the Abortion Issue back to the States. 

   I don't understand why he's making this an issue, at all in this Campaign, dems will never vote for him.  They hate him more than us Nevers.!     

   He's Stepping on your dick again

[roamer_1]

I heard it said best by a feller:

At some point, stupid has to hurt. And it will.

So vote for stupid, right?

[corbe]

   I was living in Nawlins and campaigning for David Duke (KKK) in 92.  I knew when the XGovenor (who just got out of Jail on Fed charges) came up with this, we were a goner, he'd win.

[Kamaji]

I'm gonna type real slow so you can absorb it...

We all agree that Conservatism is the best way to run a government on any level.

But the culture has made it impossible for the GOP to convince the citizenry what's good for them without binding them to a chair and force-feeding them the 'Castor Oil'.

In fact, I think the luckiest person alive today is the Democrat who will be running for POTUS in 2028.

The only way out of this inflationary spiral is to make it expensive to borrow money.  Good luck holding on to voters with today's mainstream and social media.

You aren’t a part of that “we” because your posts make it clear that you abhor anything conservative.  Hence your continued support for that liberal democrat Trump.

[DCPatriot]

You aren’t a part of that “we” because your posts make it clear that you abhor anything conservative.  Hence your continued support for that liberal democrat Trump.

I certainly don't have to defend/explain my Conservative bonafides to you...whether you're @oceander, @Bill Cipher or @Kamaji

[catfish1957]

I certainly don't have to defend/explain my Conservative bonafides to you...whether you're @oceander, @Bill Cipher or @Kamaji

Stick it up your ass.

lol.....  Bandwaggoning Nationals Orioles fans are getting kind of frisky.   

[Kamaji]

I certainly don't have to defend/explain my Conservative bonafides to you...whether you're @oceander, @Bill Cipher or @Kamaji

Stick it up your ass.   

What bona fides?  If you have them, you certainly haven't been displaying them here.

[DCPatriot]

lol.....  Bandwaggoning Nationals Orioles fans are getting kind of frisky.   

 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Because I vote for LEADERS...not ideological zealots.

It all depends on where the leader is leading you to, though.  If a leader is taking us in the wrong direction, I prefer his leadership skills be as poor as possible.

In Trump's case, he's like the Pied Piper of politics.  He plays a tune that a lot of people will follow, but exactly where he's leading them to gets ignored.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

ANYTHING  at the national level is a no-go... Unconstitutional according to SCOTUS.

That's not what SCOTUS said.  All that case held was that a right to abortion didn't exist in the Constitution itself.  There was nothing about whether Congress had the right to pass a national law regarding abortion.

Two completely different legal issues, really.  The Constitutional issue decided was based on the alleged "right to privacy" supposedly created by "emanations and penumbras" from the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments.  Legislation from Congress would be a Commerce Clause question.

[Kamaji]

Because I vote for LEADERS...not ideological zealots.

It's a dangerous world out there...

Then you should most definitely not be supporting Trump.  He was pretty much a failure as president, his only signature achievements being mean tweets and the Abraham accords.  No wall.  Liberal wet-dream levels of unnecessary spending.  Supreme Court justices who are only there because of Mitch McConnell and the Federalist Society, and McConnell's ability to build the necessary coalition to get a fractious GOP to vote for the nominees chosen by the Federalist Society.  Tax reform that was the product of Paul Ryan, not Donald Trump.  Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

[Kamaji]

That's not what SCOTUS said.  All that case held was that a right to abortion didn't exist in the Constitution itself.  There was nothing about whether Congress had the right to pass a national law regarding abortion.

Two completely different legal issues, really.  The Constitutional issue decided was based on the alleged "right to privacy" supposedly created by "emanations and penumbras" from the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments.  Legislation from Congress would be a Commerce Clause question.

Also, to some degree, a spending power question as well.

[Hoodat]

I certainly don't have to defend/explain my Conservative bonafides to you

I'm puzzled as to how a person who bashes Conservatives at every opportunity would even have any Conservative bona-fides.

[Hoodat]

That's not what SCOTUS said.  All that case held was that a right to abortion didn't exist in the Constitution itself.  There was nothing about whether Congress had the right to pass a national law regarding abortion.

True.  If Congress chooses to regulate abortion, they have that power.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

True.  If Congress chooses to regulate abortion, they have that power.

Well...maybe.  That hasn't been decided yet.  I honestly could see that one going either way depending on the composition of the Court

[LMAO]

So what is the Trump strategy if the auto makers decide they can’t meet the union demands and then pack up and move to Mexico or India?

[roamer_1]

That's not what SCOTUS said.  All that case held was that a right to abortion didn't exist in the Constitution itself.  There was nothing about whether Congress had the right to pass a national law regarding abortion.

Two completely different legal issues, really.  The Constitutional issue decided was based on the alleged "right to privacy" supposedly created by "emanations and penumbras" from the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments.  Legislation from Congress would be a Commerce Clause question.

Then I stand corrected. I thought the natural fall-back to the states and elimination of federal law lead to a ready conclusion - that it's the states' business. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Then I stand corrected. I thought the natural fall-back to the states and elimination of federal law lead to a ready conclusion - that it's the states' business. 

Well, they didn't say "no federal law".  They just said no constitutional law. 

But you are correct in the sense that the states are now free to legislate unless and until there is a federal statute. But if Congress does pass a statute, then that will override state law unless and until the Supreme Court strikes down the federal law.

Personally, I think a federal law is very unlikely.  Even though something like 15 weeks probably has majority support, you'd never get beyond a filibuster because of the politics of the issue on both sides.

[roamer_1]

Well, they didn't say "no federal law".  They just said no constitutional law. 

But you are correct in the sense that the states are now free to legislate unless and until there is a federal statute. But if Congress does pass a statute, then that will override state law unless and until the Supreme Court strikes down the federal law.

Personally, I think a federal law is very unlikely.  Even though something like 15 weeks probably has majority support, you'd never get beyond a filibuster because of the politics of the issue on both sides.

Well then I guess Tumpy ain't so ignorant after all, if federal  law is possible... Albeit that it still would destroy the only long-term thing he can lay claim to.

As for me, I stand against returning it to the states - Though mildly, as I will take it as a win.
But the issue to me is one of approved sanctioning of death, which I think can only fall into two categories: Just cause (war), or Due Process (criminal conviction). I believe that flows outward from the Constitution, and it is therefore a Constitutional issue. In all other cases, I believe the Government is beholden to its original and default duty, the protection of Rights, first and foremost among them, necessarily Life.

So I do see it differently from most hereon.

[libertybele]

It was returned to the states and it should stay there.

We are talking life; be it at 6 weeks or 8 weeks.  It is absolutely horrific how the laws have protected destroying life; especially right after birth.  That is murder.

For Trump to now come along and say it should be 15 weeks across the nation, gives it right back to the federal level and another decision by SCOTUS.  This is plain wrong.

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PreBorn!

www.preborn.com

[roamer_1]

For Trump to now come along and say it should be 15 weeks across the nation, gives it right back to the federal level and another decision by SCOTUS.  This is plain wrong.

That's right... But for a different reason... If the Fed finds itself able to sanction death beyond Just Cause or Due Process - Defining Life as it sees fit, there ain't many steps from there to killing off the elderly and the unproductive, and anyone else the government deems unworthy of the status of Life.

It is a very dangerous road down the way and around the corner.

[LMAO]

How long before  Donald Trump start using the phrase “record profits”

[Maj. Bill Martin]

How long before  Donald Trump start using the phrase “record profits”

. I'm kind of curious as to what he's going to say.  There's some real potential for him to screw up bigly.

[GtHawk]

. I'm kind of curious as to what he's going to say.  There's some real potential for him to screw up bigly.

I'm curious what Trump is going to promise the union that he can't deliver on or will renege on(seems to be his forte).

[DCPatriot]

I'm puzzled as to how a person who bashes Conservatives at every opportunity would even have any Conservative bona-fides.

@Hoodat

I'm a Conservative trapped inside a Libertarian.  Class of 98'

And a fellow member with ownership and several members here going back to "The Tea Room" and beyond.

That's TBR's great-great-great-great grandfather. 

So settle the BLEEP down!