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Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« on: September 06, 2023, 10:51:32 pm »
Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
Former president also rips DeSantis' COVID response in interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt
By Andrew Mark Miller Fox News
Published September 6, 2023 4:38pm EDT

Former President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Dr. Anthony Fauci was not a "big player" in his administration and reiterated his position that he wasn’t "allowed" to fire the medical adviser.

"First of all, you’re not allowed," Trump told Hugh Hewitt’s radio show when asked by the conservative host why he didn’t fire Fauci, the controversial head of Trump's COVID-19 response team, which Hewitt called the "biggest knock" on Trump’s presidency.

"No, no, no, Dr. Fauci was there. First of all, he’s civil service, and you’re not allowed to fire him. But forget that because I don’t necessarily go by everything … but Dr. Fauci would tell me things, and I wouldn’t do them in many cases. But also, he wasn’t a big player in my administration. Dr. Fauci became a big player in the administration of Biden. He’s a very big player in Biden’s administration."

Trump has consistently criticized Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, his closest opponent in the 2024 GOP presidential primary, for his response to the coronavirus pandemic and did so again in the interview with Hewitt by previewing what he would say to DeSantis if questioned during a debate about not firing Fauci.

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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2023, 11:01:41 pm »
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2023, 11:08:59 pm »
If Reagan were able to fire the Air Traffic Controllers, Trump could have fired Fauci.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2023, 11:36:58 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on September 06, 2023, 11:08:59 pm
If Reagan were able to fire the Air Traffic Controllers, Trump could have fired Fauci.
You would think!
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2023, 11:50:18 pm »
Trump's become a master of deception, and a perpetual liar.

Yeah, he might not have been able to be offically fired, but he could have been demoted into submission.  Fauxci could have been re-assigned to counting VD cases among Alaskan Eskimos......  Even as a Step 10 GS-15.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2023, 01:04:59 am »
Not allowed?  Sounds like something Biden would say.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2023, 01:08:15 am »
 Trump and his lies.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2023, 01:10:13 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 07, 2023, 01:04:59 am
Not allowed?  Sounds like something Biden would say.

I used to hear that you almost have to murder someone to get fired from a Federal Job.  But like I said a post earlier, nothing should have kept Tumpy from at least demoting him, or giving him a embarassing downgrade of assignment.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2023, 01:38:00 am »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on September 06, 2023, 11:08:59 pm
If Reagan were able to fire the Air Traffic Controllers, Trump could have fired Fauci.

The only reason Reagan was able to fire the Air traffic controllers was because they broke federal law by going as strike.  They were civil servants, and couldn't be fired absent cause.

Likewise, Fauci could not be fired from his civil service position with the National Institutes of Health.  But that has nothing to do with the White House Coronavirus Response Team.  That was an ad hoc group created by Trump, and he could assign whomever he wanted to it or eliminate the whole thing entirely, with everyone just continuing to do their normal government jobs.

Trump knows that, but he misleads people into thinking he was stuck with Fauci on that team, and he wasn't.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2023, 01:54:57 am »
Trump's biggest fault was 'trust'. Like me he trusted people were telling him the truth, when they were actually lying in his face.

Trust and forgiveness are stupid and very much highly overrated attributes. People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. Trump did not know that at the time. But I do believe he knows it now.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2023, 02:20:51 am »
Honestly it’s not about “firing” Fauci.

Fauci was indeed long part of the feds.

I’m just thinking Trump didn’t have to even fire him, just “demote” him as not the coordinator of COVID response.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2023, 06:26:36 am »
Fauci must of been pretty important if his ultimate boss couldn't fire him... A boss that specialized in saying "You're Fired".

Me thinks, someone is just spouting BS untruths.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2023, 11:18:46 am »
2020 was Donald's masterwork.  Everything you remember about that time --- the hysteria, the isolation, the economic destruction, the crime, the democrat sweep --- never forget, he made all of it possible. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2023, 11:53:34 am »
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2023, 12:40:25 pm »
Quote from: 240B on September 07, 2023, 01:54:57 am
Trump's biggest fault was 'trust'. Like me he trusted people were telling him the truth, when they were actually lying in his face.


His problem was not that he was too trusting. His problem is that he is averse to reading, and to getting involved in the details of anything.   Even if he was to trusting initially, he could easily have discern the truth for himself if he simply had paid sufficient attention to the issue. He is intellectually lazy, and therefore it is easy not only to fool him, but to keep fooling him.

I don't even believe that was really the issue though. I think Trump's priority when COVID hit was to ensure his own reelection.  That's it.. Just keep his poll numbers high for the next 8 months so he could get reelected.

Trump knew Fauci was wrong, and knew he could have removed him from the White House Coronavirus response team (which he could legally and easily have done and he knows that).  He was afraid the media would say mean things about him and hurt his standing with the public.  He figured he had the election in the bag, and all he had to do is go along with Fauci for 8 months so that nobody could criticize him for screwing up the response.  Longer-term consequences be damned.

That's what I think was really going on.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2023, 12:43:16 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on September 07, 2023, 12:40:25 pm
His problem was not that he was too trusting. His problem is that he is averse to reading, and to getting involved in the details of anything.   Even if he was to trusting initially, he could easily have discern the truth for himself if he simply had paid sufficient attention to the issue. He is intellectually lazy, and therefore it is easy not only to fool him, but to keep fooling him.

I don't even believe that was really the issue though. I think Trump's priority when COVID hit was to ensure his own reelection.  That's it.. Just keep his poll numbers high for the next 8 months so he could get reelected.

Trump knew Fauci was wrong, and knew he could have removed him from the White House Coronavirus response team (which he could legally and easily have done and he knows that).  He was afraid the media would say mean things about him and hurt his standing with the public.  He figured he had the election in the bag, and all he had to do is go along with Fauci for 8 months so that nobody could criticize him for screwing up the response.  Longer-term consequences be damned.

That's what I think was really going on.

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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2023, 04:43:45 pm »
Quote from: the OlLine Rebel on September 07, 2023, 02:20:51 am
Honestly it’s not about “firing” Fauci.

Fauci was indeed long part of the feds.

I’m just thinking Trump didn’t have to even fire him, just “demote” him as not the coordinator of COVID response.

And put him in charge of the virus lab in Antarctica... I'da been alright with that.  :cool:
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2023, 05:27:34 pm »
   He's obviously figured out that his response to Covid was a disaster and he will be hit hard in the upcoming primaries for that. 
   He's still an uneducated azzhole, prone to lying.
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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2023, 06:13:34 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on September 07, 2023, 12:40:25 pm
I think Trump's priority when COVID hit was to ensure his own reelection.  That's it..

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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2023, 06:17:56 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on September 07, 2023, 04:43:45 pm
And put him in charge of the virus lab in Antarctica... I'da been alright with that.  :cool:

And thawing out the Thing...

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Re: Trump: Fauci was not 'big player' in my administration, 'not allowed' to fire him
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2023, 06:36:21 pm »
Quote from: Sighlass on September 07, 2023, 06:26:36 am
Fauci must of been pretty important if his ultimate boss couldn't fire him... A boss that specialized in saying "You're Fired".

Me thinks, someone is just spouting BS untruths.

Me thinks you are absolutely correct.  888high58888
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